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Lord Sovereign

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Except that, again, the Tarkin Doctrine is explicitly not about military efficacy as a primary concern. It is a doctrine of intimidation, bluntly and explicitly so. It's about sweeping iconography, not punative standards. They're not stringing up proven rebels, they're obliterating whole planets for the crimes of a select few politicians. Mass destruction of the uninvolved.

The Tarkin doctrine all but incites rebellion. The Rebel Alliance is like catching smoke with your bare hands, not something you can hit with a hammer. And by whacking it with that hammer, you just disperse the smoke more and more.

That aside, wanton brutality gives subjugated worlds the impression of "they are going to kill us anyway, so what have we got to lose?" I've never got how the Romans, a pre-industrial civilisation, understood how to keep an empire together better than a galactic level civilisation that has been space faring for over twenty thousand years.
 

Zachowon

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The Tarkin doctrine all but incites rebellion. The Rebel Alliance is like catching smoke with your bare hands, not something you can hit with a hammer. And by whacking it with that hammer, you just disperse the smoke more and more.

That aside, wanton brutality gives subjugated worlds the impression of "they are going to kill us anyway, so what have we got to lose?" I've never got how the Romans, a pre-industrial civilisation, understood how to keep an empire together better than a galactic level civilisation that has been space faring for over twenty thousand years.
It works on some planets and not on others
 

Zachowon

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But that's the problem. Sometimes it works, but the Empire applies hammer to everything. "Smash shit" is the default for them.
I think there is a disconnect between a lot of the groups.

I mean...it seems they have MPs trying to do Hearts and minds at times even when not bringing fear. (MPs are assholes and make normal cops look nice)
 

DarthOne

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You know piecing together a few pieces of lore and knowledge. I just realized that there is actually a chance that some of the zealots from the time SW turned into 40k might have survived what was done to them. How many ships were sabotaged and stranded far away, what dark part of the galaxy they were sent to and awaited for to avenge what was done to them, and the lives of so many faithful and so they plotted their return, waiting, building up strength and developing new and better tools as the galaxy would in general wax and wane in technology, Waiting to bring about the day of final judgement in their name of their goddess.

I am just imaging 40k, Pius Dea, and some Gal Civ III
That could be interesting. It would probably be easier to pull off then an actual 40k crossover. Though I imagine you might have some difficulty in gaining a large story following. The Pius Dea are a rather obscure bit of lore afterall.
 
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I’ll see if I can start the Jacen/Alema fic by next weekend so stay tuned.
 

Lord Sovereign

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Now that I've got a general idea down of the key character in "Warspite: A Star Wars Story" (shite name, I know, but it's a placeholder), the ship herself, I've been doing a little more thought about the crew. In specific, Warspite's impromptu captain. This would be a man who is not very old (in his mid twenties) but still intelligent. He is Core World nobility from a family that usually made its name and wealth in the political arena of their homeworld, thus quite elitist. However, as a younger, wayward and less politically savvy son, he gets sent off to the military to be straightened out. This ultimately turns out to be a (tragic) turn of good fortune, as he was offworld when Tarkin visited it with fire...
 
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Hlaalu Agent

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That could be interesting. It would probably be easier to pull off then an actual 40k crossover. Though I imagine you might have some difficulty in gaining a large story following. The Pius Dea are a rather obscure bit of lore afterall.

Unfortunate, because it is interesting and also hilarious, because there is literally a "turn into 40k" era of Star Wars.
 
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Eh, the New Sith Wars are the closest SW gets to 40K grimdark. The Pius Dea are a homage to the aesthetic but are a different beast from the Imperium.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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Eh, the New Sith Wars are the closest SW gets to 40K grimdark. The Pius Dea are a homage to the aesthetic but are a different beast from the Imperium.

Yes, but they still didn't involve Cathedral ships purging the xeno, the heretic and the unclean. So would combining some Sith remnants and Pius Dea Crusaders (and maybe even some stray Mandos) make it work better?
 
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Yes, but they still didn't involve Cathedral ships purging the xeno, the heretic and the unclean. So would combining some Sith remnants and Pius Dea Crusaders (and maybe even some stray Mandos) make it work better?
Seems so yeah, Pius Dea in the New Sith Wars, either due to time travel or whatever, and you've got yourself a 40K star wars right there.
 
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Pius Dea: Hello boys, we're baaaack

Republic: Fuck!
Remember the Republic in the last four centuries of the NSW, had entirely collapsed outside of the core, with the Jedi ruling it, while the rest of the galaxy was constantly under sith attack or control, alongside piracy, collapse of civil authority, and plague.

Sending a Pius Dea warfleet to that era gives the Republic/Jedi and the Sith another enemy to fight, one that could rally human populations especially in a desperate time.
 

DarthOne

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Well, the time travel would be easy to pull off, as in Legends that sort of thing could happen due to hyperdrive malfunction. And given how the Pius Dea were taken care of, it would be easy to have tails of their hyperdrives go ‘boink’. Possibly due to some of them realizing that something had just gone wrong and trying to fit it.

Although personally, you might want to let them build up in some suitable out-of-the way location for a little bit so they can take care of their logistics and modernize their tech a little first before going all Crusader on the Galaxy.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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Well, the time travel would be easy to pull off, as in Legends that sort of thing could happen due to hyperdrive malfunction. And given how the Pius Dea were taken care of, it would be easy to have tails of their hyperdrives go ‘boink’. Possibly due to some of them realizing that something had just gone wrong and trying to fit it.

Although personally, you might want to let them build up in some suitable out-of-the way location for a little bit so they can take care of their logistics and modernize their tech a little first before going all Crusader on the Galaxy.

That was my idea in the first place, that they were stranded in some dark corner of the galaxy and were forced to settle and rebuild there. In forced exile, and with the knowledge that many of their comrades didn't make it. And the question is, would the cult really have died out in the greater galaxy, or is it in hiding? I seriously doubt such a religion would die out, even with it being repressed and the Republic being the Republic.
 

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That was my idea in the first place, that they were stranded in some dark corner of the galaxy and were forced to settle and rebuild there. In forced exile, and with the knowledge that many of their comrades didn't make it. And the question is, would the cult really have died out in the greater galaxy, or is it in hiding? I seriously doubt such a religion would die out, even with it being repressed and the Republic being the Republic.
I'm curious about their goddess. If she's real AND she explicitly favors humans, what implications would that have for the galaxy?
 

Hlaalu Agent

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I'm curious about their goddess. If she's real AND she explicitly favors humans, what implications would that have for the galaxy?

Well for one, it may well just mean the force actually is female. That would be a hoot.

Well, that would mean there is more than just the force out there for one. Which means it doesn't solely control the destiny of everyone, and that there might be an actual afterlife for people who aren't Jedi. And in addition there might even be other gods, such as the Mando dualistic gods...
 

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