Yes, that's the source, it is a survey based book, about surveys done in 1992.
For the first time ever, Sex in America reveals the myth-shattering results of the only comprehensive and methodologically sound survey of America's sexual practices and beliefs. In 1992, highly regarded social scientists Robert T. Michael, John H. Gagnon, and Edward O. Laumann embarked on an...
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I know, but I'm not sure if this is one of the studies they did, or a study they referenced. From the phrasing of the article, I expect the second:
The book Sex in America: A Definitive Survey, by authors Michael, Gagnon, Laumann, and Kolata, cites a study of homosexual male couples conducted by gay researchers.
EDIT: I checked the book out from the Internet Archive, and I could find no reference to it in the chapter on homosexual partners, nor any reference to a study dealing with gays having an "85" or "37" appear anywhere.
EDIT EDIT: I did the same for "Searching For Gay America", a book that is heavily talked about in the chapter on homosexual partners, and nothing there either.
EDIT EDIT EDIT: I found it: The book is called "The Male Couple" (1985), which is largely anecdotal and geographically limited. Specifically about fidelity, they mention that:
"Sexual exclusivity among these couples is infrequent, yet their expectations of fidelity are high. Fidelity is ... defined... by their emotional commitment to each other. Ninety-five percent of the couples have an arrangement whereby the partners may have sexual activity with others at some time under certain conditions... all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity in their relationships."
Given this book happened just as the AIDS epidemic was getting into full swing, rates of non-monogamy would crash soon after this. Also, this isn't infidelity, but non-monogamy.
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: The study the book was based on took place from 1974 to 1979.
To the degree they are even achievable at all (which they definitely aren't 100%), yes.
The dangerous territory starts when to make more achievable, the lobby starts to play around with definitions of these goals.
I think they are mostly achievable, but this is basically my point. Once
any movement succeeds, all the activists left need to keep having things to be activists.
How widespread was it actually (so that we don't talk about outlier cases in high profile cushy jobs), and how would a lot of them even be known to be discriminated against in the first place in the age of DADT?
Recently? I'd say it was pretty rare. But historically (think 1940s-1980s)? Pretty common if it got out you were gay. There was a 20 year ban on gays being employed by the federal government at all from 1953 to about 1973, when a judge overturned it. This wasn't a DADT type thing, the government would actively investigate people and basically set police on them. The way private citizens and HR would find out people were gay was generally when they were outed. New York's vice squad would raid gay bars, arrest everyone there then put their names in the newspaper as being perverts.
Is it truly new, or are the weirdos just coming out of the woodwork because now they feel comfortable to do so?
The weirdos were always there, just drowned out by the normals (much like any other movement). When the normals win what they want, they fade out of the movement, leaving the infrastructure to the weirdos and grifters. Look at Louis Farrakhan for a weirdo and Al Sharpton for a grifter in regards to race.
I have had statistics quoted to me that the average homosexual 'marriage' participant has sexual relations with multiple other people every year. I have not seen these statistics for myself, so I can't confirm them.
But that's okay, because you're the one making an assertion here, so it's on you to defend it. What are the statistics on homosexual 'wedded' couples actual being monogamous? Can you support the claim that they're actually committed?
I'll give you partial points on raising kids. They have to be adopted of course, but some actually do try. One of my cousins who is a lesbian has been doing a decent job of raising a son. Do you have any statistics on how much of a minority or majority that is though?
For cheating in relationships, I found this:
In regard to sexual orientation, a significant relationship was not found between sexual orientation and history of cheating on one’s current partner, history of being cheated on by one’s current partner, or history of being cheated on by a past partner. However, sexual orientation was significantly related to history of being unfaithful in a past relationship, with 40.7% of heterosexual participants reporting a history of cheating on a past partner as compared to 58.1% of lesbian and gay participants (χ 2 = 8.577, df = 1, p = 0.003). This had a small effect size of .172. Follow-up chi-square analyses were then conducted to examine if lesbian and gay participants differed from heterosexuals regarding which type(s) of infidelity they had experienced in their current and past relationships: emotional infidelity, sexual infidelity, or both types (co-occurrence of emotional and sexual infidelity). Sexual orientation was not significantly related to which type of infidelity participants’ current or past partners had committed. On the other hand, sexual orientation was significantly related to which type of infidelity participants had committed in their current (χ 2 = 7.487, df = 1, p = 0.024) and past relationships (χ 2 = 7.272, df = 1, p = 0.026). In both current and past relationships, heterosexual participants were significantly more likely to commit emotional infidelity than sexual or both types of infidelity, whereas lesbian and gay participants were significantly more likely to commit sexual or both types of infidelity than emotional infidelity.
There was also this study:
It found that being LGBT was positively associated with cheating online (sending nudes to someone not with you, etc), but not associated with cheating in real life.
There's also this article in Slate, referencing a study I can't find (the link to a USA Today article about the study is dead), which notes that:
Folks of all sexual orientations who are in committed relationships have become more monogamous over time, or that’s what
a study that was published
Family Process found. There are some hinky things in the reporting on this piece at
USA Today. For instance, the only heterosexual couples mentioned are married, but gay couples who are committed but have no formal union were also recorded. Additionally, the reporting conflates cheating with sex outside of the relationship, even though many couples have an understanding that allows for outside relationships. In fact, nonmonogamous cultural norms in gay male culture go a long way toward explaining why they’re far more likely to have sex outside of a committed relationship than everyone else.
Still, even with those caveats in place, the results of this survey are stunning. The rate of sex outside of the marriage has dropped for every category of people studied dramatically between 1975 and 2000. Twenty-eight percent of straight men in 1975 had sex with a woman outside of their marriage, but in 2000, it was only 10 percent. For straight, married women, the rate dropped from 23 percent to 14 percent. For gay men, 83 percent to 59 percent, and for lesbians, 28 percent to 8 percent. The
USA Today article focuses mainly on gay couples and how the mainstream acceptance of homosexuality has a lot to do with increasing rates of monogamy. There’s a lot to think about there, since it is true that cultural acceptance has introduced far more stability into the lives of gay people, and the gay marriage movement has also increased the pressure to value monogamy.
Unfortunately, I can't find a study that only looks at LGBT married couples.
As for children, there are a lot of factors, depending on what you mean. Are you asking what percentage of LGBT married couples help raise children, or what percentage of LGBT parents adopt, or something in between? Here's two studies:
From 2013:
- An estimated 37% of LGBT-identified adults have had a child at some time in their lives.
- Among those under age 50 who are living alone or with a spouse or partner, nearly half of LGBT women (48%) are raising a child under age 18 along with a fifth of LGBT men (20%)
- Same-sex couples who consider themselves to be spouses are more than twice as likely to be raising biological, step, or adopted children when compared to same-sex couples who say that they are unmarried partners (31% versus 14%, respectively).
- Same-sex couples raising children are four times more likely than their different-sex counterparts to be raising an adopted child. An estimated 16,000 same-sex couples are raising more than 22,000 adopted children in the US.
- Same-sex couples are six times more likely than their different-sex counterparts to be raising foster children. Approximately 2,600 same-sex couples are raising an estimated 3,400 foster children in the US.