Original Fiction The Rejectionist's Worldbuilding Idea : União Imperial Popular do Brasil / People's Imperial Union of Brazil

[TheRejectionist]

Usually at this stage I would have received a warning or two in alternatehistory.com lol. @Circle of Willis good to have place and not to worry about loosing everything.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Well I'm a huge fan of Deus Ex (and consider DX1 to be the best of that franchise in addition to being one of the best and most based games ever) and still mourn the murder of Dead Space by EA, so you have certainly further piqued my interest with that explanation 😁 I'll have to leave the more technical aspects to others since that's not usually my forte, but let's see if I can offer any useful feedback when it comes to the sociopolitical worldbuilding...

Well, I assume that for America (specifically a globalist America working with left-wing Brazilian factions) to invade Brazil, things must've really gone to crap between the two countries and probably the world order as a whole. The US didn't outright invade Venezuela under Chavez and Maduro after all, despite those places being both human rights disasters and massive affronts to American policy & ideology, instead preferring to back local proxies (who, as we know, have failed): for them to put boots on the ground in Brazil, they (or whoever is running DC from Globalist Control Hive #1, heh) must be really spooked that Brazil's pre-invasion leadership was on the verge of severely undermining US hegemony over South America.

So...perhaps you have a Bolsonaro on steroids running Brazil, and a true-believing SJW type in the White House. Someone who isn't just an establishment drone cynically attached to and mouthing the platitudes of progressive-globalist-totalitarian-critical-deconstructionism (or whatever you want to call the blend of ideologies which has effectively subsumed 99.9% of leftist political thought in the First World) like Pelosi or Biden himself, but a committed zealot like the Squad but also on steroids, the sort who would actually be unhinged enough to invade other countries abroad just because s/he doesn't like that they're run by evil fascist chuds and to try indulging in Reddit-tier far-left revenge fantasies at home. Or, at the very least, these voices must have a loud and domineering voice at the Democratic table even if the US has a saner Democrat officially at the top of the ticket and running the show, and invading Brazil to 'keep it from becoming a pillar of neo-fascism in the Western Hemisphere' or whatever might be one bone-headed way in which the more moderate president is trying to appease the representative(s) of his rabid base.

However! If events have proceeded as OTL up to the 2020s, as I would assume for simplicity's sake (if you set the POD further back in time, please do tell so I can adjust accordingly) - that is, the sequence of American presidents has gone Bush->Obama->Trump->Biden as it did IRL - then the US will also be weighed down by all its attendant social tensions, including a demoralized military that has felt the sting of defeat in Afghanistan and whose generals, really more-so politicians in uniform rather than men of the caliber of Patton or Abrams or Schwarzkopf, are forcibly trying to wokify it. My guess is that the US thus will be initially successful in your story (as seems to be from what you've implied with left-wing Brazilian parties cozying up to the invaders), overrunning Brazil with overwhelming shock-and-awe firepower and technological superiority, but then disastrously botch the occupation, as it all too often does. Possibly to the point of generating violent backlash at home, as detailed further below.

Now you almost certainly know a lot more about Brazilian society than I do (not a whole lot), so you be the judge if the Brazilian people are likely to accept insanely costly efforts to impose intersectional feminism, woke racism, etc. on their country backed by American bayonets and the dollar, perhaps to the extreme of sex & gender quotas in the occupation-backed Brazilian legislature and the denial of financial & material aid to communities which won't swallow the globohomo pill. Besides finding left-wing politicians to collaborate with them, the American policymakers choosing gangsters to prop up into becoming warlords and serve as additional muscle against any right-wing resistance is another possibility with plenty of precedent in Afghanistan, considering that's literally what happened all the time (nevermind that these criminal warlords would indulge in everything from opium farming & pushing to bacha bazi, or habitual boy-rape, which only served to further erode Afghan support for the occupation).

While the American politicians, bankers, generals and NGOs are doing their thing, note that the average grunts on the ground might be reluctant to push this stuff, if not outright a lot friendlier to the Brazilians than they're officially allowed to be. It's generally understood that the troops slant a lot further to the right than the American high command and DoD bureaucrats, as can be seen from the divide in their donations to Trump vs. their donations to Biden as late as 2020, despite the media's various attempts to smear Trump as someone more anti-military than the average user on r/socialism. Certainly the brass will probably try stacking the deck with recruitment campaigns targeted at woke college students while drumming out the patriots (the vax mandates are a recent tactic to accomplish that), but these make poor soldiers for pretty obvious reasons (low or no T, consumed by a victim complex and need to win the Oppression Olympics encouraged by academia and woke 'thought', prone to considering the US military an evil imperialist tool staffed by redneck rubes anyway) and I suspect you won't be seeing many of these guys in combat roles. More like, drone operators and base security at best, if they weren't sufficiently well-connected to find a cozy paper-pushing job somewhere already.

Consequently the more stereotypical image of a patriotic, God-fearing farmboy from Kansas or Georgia turned brave and reliable GI or Marine is liable to clash horribly with the new woke recruits, who in turn are likely if not certain to feel nothing but seething contempt for the first group. I doubt they will work together well, and the latter's enthusiasm for carrying out the most extreme globalist orders from the comfort of a fortified, air-conditioned FOB may very well disgust the former on the ground (who are the ones to see what actually happens when the pink-haired drone operator bombs a wedding and face the wrath of local parents when Washington's pet gangster-turned-politician in town kidnaps their kid for 'fun' or simply for pissing him off, as often happened in A-stan). You'd probably need a total collapse of morale and one too many atrocities coming to light if you want to spark off a right-wing mutiny among the ranks (akin to a reverse Vietnam), but divisions within the occupying power are never a good sign for the occupation.

By the way, those divisions aren't just going to be a headache for the Americans at the front. Political polarization between the domestic left and right hasn't created a gap between Americans so much as it has created a downright yawning chasm, a trend which has only gotten drastically worse over time and almost certainly will not let up any time soon. The US invading Brazil, a former ally, for - what? Not abiding by the dictates of the WEF or other globalist fronts? - is not likely to improve that, at all. At best the globalist establishment might get a short-lived polling bump if they justify it with a real or false-flag terrorist attack on the scale of 9/11 by Brazilian nationals or something, but looking at the absolute dearth of enthusiasm on the American right for a war in Ukraine right now, even that seems unlikely. The economy is also in the shitter as of OTL 2021, and a second Great Recession or even Depression (as seems pretty likely from where we're standing right now) is always a great vector for increased unrest at home. A progressive administration in the White House (of the sort that would attack Brazil for turning against globalism in the first place) trying to go full mask-off and go after the guns, kids, etc. of the 'reactionary chuds' at home between an unpopular war and economic meltdown is liable to spark off enough civil unrest to force them to withdraw from Brazil, at least partially, since their ideologically loyal woke brigades would be needed to keep themselves afloat at home: thereby compromising, or even potentially ending, the occupation.

Last of all: as a Canadian, I can tell you that if the US sneezes, we come down with the cold, and when they have the cold we'll have pneumonia. In other words, if the US is in the throes of a major backlash against woke globalism, we'll be dealing with the same thing in Canadian conditions, as we tend to follow American trends. (The reverse, as you can see with the Freedom Convoy inspiring copycats in America and beyond today, is much appreciated in my eyes but admittedly a historical anomaly) Let's say domestic tensions are boiling over and the conservative 'flyover states' are threatening to (or actually already trying) to secede or overthrow a globalist-controlled federal government they no longer deem even remotely legitimate, as in the 'domestic concerns force the US to draw down or end its Brazilian occupation' scenario above. If it gets bad enough that bullets start flying you will almost certainly see our Prairie provinces, especially Alberta (which is both our most conservative province and the one with the biggest bone to pick with Ottawa), join them, along with British Columbia's interior (far more conservative than Vancouver) and large parts of rural Ontario, while Quebec makes its own play for secession yet again. Conversely, if Trudeau or a Trudeau-aligned successor is still Prime Minister then, then what remains of the Canadian government will attach itself to the cause of the globalist forces in America until the bitter end.

...well, that screed turned out to be a fair bit longer than I first intended. Regardless, I hope it was helpful

I probably can't implent (at least explicitly) a few of your suggestions, simply because otherwise my only publishing option would be Baen. And while I think Baen is simply marvelous and magnificent, unfortunatly they tend to be rarely put on SF shelves, the only time I saw them wasn't even in Italy, but Stockholm Sweden or Abebooks.com.
However thanks for you direct, genuine opinion.

PC culture is not sticky as it in the US, but I should visit Brazil soon to have an opinion on it. Though I doubt many would join them. The only who could join them are the cartels or similar, because AFAIK we don't have a bacha bazi equivalent (AND THANK GOD), at worst you find people dating double their age like you see a lot of times in the Northwest of Brazil, mostly because they are culturally ...promiscuos.

What I need know is vehicle knowledge...already implement for some, it remains.

 

[TheRejectionist]

From : CV12Hornet

FULL AIRPLANE/ FLIGHT TRANSPORTATION THREAD :

Okay, so I'm going to speak mostly on combat aircraft here, since that's more my wheelhouse wrt to what you've outlined you need.

First, I recommend this Flight Global article for the inventories of the world's air forces in 2021 as a starting point: https://www.flightglobal.com/download?ac=75345

Alright, aircraft. As of 2040, I'd expect the backbone of Brazil's fast jet force to still be the Gripen E; given the capability of Brazil's aviation industry, and current local assembly of the Gripen E, full production capability is IMO in handwaving distance by 2040. Most of the rest of your little alliance should still be equipped with F-16s of varying vintages, with Angola and Venezuela still hanging onto their Flankers and there are probably a few squadrons of JF-17s floating around.

Once they band together, and start relying heavily on Russian and Israeli assistance, I'd expect more Gripens (with Russian engines and Israeli avionics replacing all the American gear, most likely) assuming the occupation doesn't wreck Brazil's aviation industry along the way; Brazil having a small high-end force of Su-57s; and everyone else having the Su-75 flogged their direction.

From the admin Overscan :

Its hard to help you without establishing the basic ground rules of your scenario.

The US & China are knocked out in some way. The US is the largest producer of weapons today, and China is up and coming - is that supply cut off? How far into the future is this 'knockout?' Do US and Chinese arms manufacturers still exist and sell weapons? It could be that mostly the weapons in use will be current or near term programs only.

Jet engines - there are a small number of countries that can design and build modern jet engines, and your scenario knocks out two of them. UK. France. Germany and Russia (and possibly Japan) are left.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So : a Russo-Israeli-Japanese plane.

Like the idea!

 

[Circle of Willis]

I probably can't implent (at least explicitly) a few of your suggestions, simply because otherwise my only publishing option would be Baen. And while I think Baen is simply marvelous and magnificent, unfortunatly they tend to be rarely put on SF shelves, the only time I saw them wasn't even in Italy, but Stockholm Sweden or Abebooks.com.
However thanks for you direct, genuine opinion.

PC culture is not sticky as it in the US, but I should visit Brazil soon to have an opinion on it. Though I doubt many would join them. The only who could join them are the cartels or similar, because AFAIK we don't have a bacha bazi equivalent (AND THANK GOD), at worst you find people dating double their age like you see a lot of times in the Northwest of Brazil, mostly because they are culturally ...promiscuos.

What I need know is vehicle knowledge...already implement for some, it remains.

Hey, no problem - I totally understand. Though, have you considered self-publishing instead? Apparently that's becoming a much more popular option these days than it was in the 2000s, in no small part because as you say, trad-publishing houses as well as formerly respected institutions such as the Hugos & SFWA have been hopelessly compromised by the wokies and won't even look at stuff that doesn't check enough 'diversity' items off their list anymore. Two relatively big names that come to my mind as far as self-publishing successes on the right go are Will Jordan (AKA the Critical Drinker on Youtube) and Kurt Schlichter (a conservative commentator on Townhall, whose most popular series is incidentally about the modern US splitting up).

 

[TheRejectionist]

UPDATE : I will going to vacation 14-21 of this month. So don't expect updates before then.

 

[TheRejectionist]

@Circle of Willis @ATP @Agent23 @The Whispering Monk sorry I don't have the mental strenght and will to tag everyone who previously posted to me andother threads.

I will be on a hiatus for creative stuff.

Some times I will maybe post but don't expect with hold breath or how

My mother has 2 cancers, she discovered as I was in Portugal. She told me a couple of hours ago. Apparently the doctors found out before it could have been too late. She starts chemo in less than a week. She is surprinsingly optimist unlike me and my sister who feel broke down and hopeless.
She told us it was luck or divine intervention they found out this already, because she also heard the stories of people missing treatment and scanning and more during the last 2 years of the pandemic. Some reason she got really liked by a doctor, and she found out quickly enough in the last weeks.

My father will find out Monday or Tuesday due to the ongoing legal procedures of their divorce.

She hopes he is going change and not to be the total massive impediment to me, her and my sister's life.

I don't believe it will. I had hopes years ago but they had faded long before he told me to get vaccinated.

Don't know how much will be relevant here, but she believes (graduated as a nurse/helper in Brazil) that one of the cancers has to do with the Pfizer vax and could have accelarated the other.

I don't think we can sue the Pfizer or the Italian State because she signed a form that of course didn't make either liable to sue. Or whatever. I am not a legal expert.

I will post on the Wuhan thread as well.

 

[Agent23]

@TheRejectionist take as much time as you can and be with your family!
Wish you all the best, and don't worry about us.

 

[Circle of Willis]

^ I concur with the above sentiment, this must (completely understandably) certainly be a much greater priority than any thread or forum on the Internet. Best of luck to you, your mother & the rest of your family.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

^ I concur with the above sentiment, this must (completely understandably) certainly be a much greater priority than any thread or forum on the Internet. Best of luck to you, your mother & the rest of your family.

Family matter more than fiction. Take the time you need. I'll remember your mother in my prayers.

 

[ATP]

@Circle of Willis @ATP @Agent23 @The Whispering Monk sorry I don't have the mental strenght and will to tag everyone who previously posted to me andother threads.

I will be on a hiatus for creative stuff.

Some times I will maybe post but don't expect with hold breath or how

My mother has 2 cancers, she discovered as I was in Portugal. She told me a couple of hours ago. Apparently the doctors found out before it could have been too late. She starts chemo in less than a week. She is surprinsingly optimist unlike me and my sister who feel broke down and hopeless.
She told us it was luck or divine intervention they found out this already, because she also heard the stories of people missing treatment and scanning and more during the last 2 years of the pandemic. Some reason she got really liked by a doctor, and she found out quickly enough in the last weeks.

My father will find out Monday or Tuesday due to the ongoing legal procedures of their divorce.

She hopes he is going change and not to be the total massive impediment to me, her and my sister's life.

I don't believe it will. I had hopes years ago but they had faded long before he told me to get vaccinated.

Don't know how much will be relevant here, but she believes (graduated as a nurse/helper in Brazil) that one of the cancers has to do with the Pfizer vax and could have accelarated the other.

I don't think we can sue the Pfizer or the Italian State because she signed a form that of course didn't make either liable to sue. Or whatever. I am not a legal expert.

I will post on the Wuhan thread as well.

Polish monk,Czesław Kilmuszko,created many herbal treatments for various illness,including some kind of cancer,too.
Please check,if your mother cancer could be cured by it - it could be all found in web now,and you could buy herbs,too.
In Poland Bonifarater order is selling it.

P.S Take your time.

 

[TheRejectionist]

As a sci-fi writer who actually does his research, this line of reasoning gets so old.

Cybernetics do not work like that.

Implanting something in somebody's body without doing serious harm is difficult and expensive. Designing something that can stay in there for any duration is expensive.

There is nothing that we can make right now, or is even on the horizon, that can do what the human body does as well as it does, much less to a greater degree, as a surgically-implanted replacement. It would be orders of magnitude cheaper to just use powered exoskeletons instead of cybernetic 'enhancement.'

The foundational technology, to build the technology, to build the technology, to build the technology, does not even exist to do these things.

This is functionally magic that you are talking about. It does not exist, is not close to existing, is not even close to being close to existing.


Integrating man and machine is a captivating fictional idea, but is no closer to happening as an improvement than it was forty years ago when the idea was popularized in the 1980's. We have the beginnings of cybernetics that operate as partially-functional replacements to lost appendages, much better than a 'hook hand' or similar, but still nowhere near on the level of flesh and bone.


Now, employing or installing a crude, debilitating 'kill switch' that can cripple or kill someone on command? That can absolutely be done, if you don't care much about how much negative effect it has on the subject. It's also clear that there are people out there amoral enough to actually do such a thing. Even in that case though, a bomb collar would do the same job much more cheaply.

Shadowrun or Cyberpunk are still completely in the realm of fiction, and most of the knowledge about attempting such things gained in the mean time, is that it's all far, far harder than people had thought it would be 40 years ago.

@LordsFire since you are a fellow writer, may I ask you an opinion of this worlbuilding so far I put down here as I did with @Circle of Willis ?

 

[ATP]

@LordsFire since you are a fellow writer, may I ask you an opinion of this worlbuilding so far I put down here as I did with @Circle of Willis ?

I once saw on Discovery robo-fish which was controlled by real fish brain - but i forget,if that brain was in robo-fish or elsywhere.

Anyway,could we use human brain the same way?
i think,that you should ask @LordsFire about that - fact,that fish brain could be used to create robots,do not mean that we could do the same with human brain.