The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada

[Cherico]

They're literally threatening their children and pets. If that doesn't actually cause armed conflict, then there's no hope for our species.

Threating children and pets isnt enough, actually going through with it and actually murdering their children and pets isn't enough. It takes litterally decades of bullshit to get the average person to the point where they are willing to murder their political class. You have to fuck up not just one year but for decades.

A countries political class is given plenty of chances to reform themselves, their given plenty of warning about the reforms they need to do and they get plenty of chances to leave power peacefully often with quite a bit of money.

I mean take the fall of communism in the west, the only place where the corrupt communist leadership was murdered for their fuckery was romania. Most people left the former leadership alone as long as they agreed to quietly stop fucking things up or leave.

So I honestly don't think there will be a armed conflict. What I think will realistically happen is that provinces will start saying fuck it and go their own way. If you live in Ontario your fucked sorry but you are, but the rest of canada has good odds of being relatively decent places to live.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

No place in the English speaking world is going to be a decent place to live for many decades, not until the American Empire falls.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I think Castro's bastard being forced into resigning in disgrace is far more likely than session or civil war.

 

[Captain X]

I still hold out hope that Alberta will join the US as another conservative state.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I still hold out hope that Alberta will join the US as another conservative state.

Canada "Conservatives" would be pretty left wing by US standards.

 

[Captain X]

And? Are they commie tyrants like Trudeau?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Hard to say, The last leader of the Conservatives wasn't all that different from Justin.

 

[Captain X]

 

[BlackDragon98]

Likely not. There seem to be cracks forming in his government. Likely as the truckers keep up the pressure then he'll be ousted.

If the cracks are anything like Doug Ford or Candice Bergen, then we might as well start building concentration camps for ourselves.

Ford didn't grow a backbone or a pair. The two gerbils in his pants got nervous.

For all his rhetoric, he's just another liberal with a blue tie.

Ottawa judge has frozen freedom convoy assets after a SECRET hearing.

Citizens group wins court-ordered freeze of Freedom Convoy accounts, cryptocurrency | The Star

If we don't act now, then Canada will end up like Nazi Germany.

I really hope Putin takes a "trip" here after cleaning up the Ukraine.

You can always rely on the Russians to get rid of Nazis.

 

[Sobek]

He looks even more soy than I thought he would. It's like a living smuggie.

 

[DarthOne]

Bad news from the front lines.







That said the truckers are lawyered up...only I fear it’ll probably be as helpful to them as the Jan 6 protesters.



Still, the Truckers are holding the line and the moral is still high.



CANADIAN SNOW BALL FIGHT IN OTTAWA *stereotypical**

 

[Spartan303]

If the cracks are anything like Doug Ford or Candice Bergen, then we might as well start building concentration camps for ourselves.

Ford didn't grow a backbone or a pair. The two gerbils in his pants got nervous.

For all his rhetoric, he's just another liberal with a blue tie.

Ottawa judge has frozen freedom convoy assets after a SECRET hearing.

Citizens group wins court-ordered freeze of Freedom Convoy accounts, cryptocurrency | The Star

If we don't act now, then Canada will end up like Nazi Germany.

I really hope Putin takes a "trip" here after cleaning up the Ukraine.

You can always rely on the Russians to get rid of Nazis.

I'm sorry, but this is just black pill dormerism. Yes, the situation is bad but not everything is Nazi Germany. When people start getting executed en mass then you can make that claim in all seriousness. But not now. It's very disingenuous.

Let's not lose our heads, here. The establishment is desperate and lashing out. They're losing control of the people and the the PR war. The more they crack down the more people are waking up and turning against them. The cracks in Treadeaus government are starting to show. Eventually we'll see people break ranks. This may eventually see him forced to resign or be removed. And once he's gone then things start getting better. And there will be a reckoning against financial institutions that illegally seized funds. But it has to be legal and by the book.

There is a reason why the left acts as they do. It's easy and gratifying in the moment to give into anger when they react to something they don't like. But we on the right don't react. We respond, but after careful consideration.

All the Truckers have to do is hold the line. Infact I'd recommend more truckers join their ranks. That would bring Canada's economy to a halt and force the issue. No one would like it, but it would work.

 

[Sir 1000]

That is actually historical revisionism. The modern banking system was not developed by 'Jewish Bankers' because 'Christians don't do usury'. It was actually developed by the Benedictine monks and monasteries of the Medieval period to facilitate trade and economic activity, to help finance the Christian kingdoms, etc. Jews were barely involved in the actual financial system until the early Modern period, and then as tax collectors in Slavic regions, rather than as 'bankers'.

Fair enough, but still not an excuse for the modern times which was my point. I was trying to explain why in the modern times Jews might possibly be so overrepresented in financial institutions at a level that if white people were the ones doing it they would automatically be considered as discriminating by a judge. Without that excuse then it looks even worse in the modern day.

 

[f1onagher]

Its important to remember that Trudeau is expending governmental legitimacy to remove a problem that could have been handled by provincial police. Depending on how cooked those CBC polls are, its probably a fair bet to assume that most Canadians are more or less for the crack down so long as it doesn't affect them, but he's now actively maligned a good 20 to 30% of the population into the default assumption of the government's illegitimacy. That's going to have repercussions down the line, not necessarily violent ones, but ones that hinder the leadership that follows him.

Its bad statecraft and will spawn various forms of reaction, from higher militancy on the Canadian right to more people performing passive noncompliance in areas away from the metropoles. None of these actions will be big or satisfactory on their own, but percolate enough people with no investment in the continuation of the current regime and it makes larger changes easier down the line. For both better and worse for the record.

 

[DarthOne]

I'm sorry, but this is just black pill dormerism. Yes, the situation is bad but not everything is Nazi Germany. When people start getting executed en mass then you can make that claim in all seriousness. But not now. It's very disingenuous.

Let's not lose our heads, here. The establishment is desperate and lashing out. They're losing control of the people and the the PR war. The more they crack down the more people are waking up and turning against them. The cracks in Treadeaus government are starting to show. Eventually we'll see people break ranks. This may eventually see him forced to resign or be removed. And once he's gone then things start getting better. And there will be a reckoning against financial institutions that illegally seized funds. But it has to be legal and by the book.

There is a reason why the left acts as they do. It's easy and gratifying in the moment to give into anger when they react to something they don't like. But we on the right don't react. We respond, but after careful consideration.

All the Truckers have to do is hold the line. Infact I'd recommend more truckers join their ranks. That would bring Canada's economy to a halt and force the issue. No one would like it, but it would work.

Yes and no.

True, the government hasn’t started killing people. But they don’t have to yet either. Just arresting people and otherwise making life miserable for people who resist is more then enough to be effective. And allows them to keep a veneer of civility to their actions.

And while the government is starting to break ranks, I’d argue it’s not enough. We’ve seen just how effective that’s been so far in the USA with the MAGA vs NeoCon politicians in the Republican Party. Sure, they’ve had some successes and that’s nothing to sniff at, but it’s been slow going. And given how Leftist the Conservatives are up in Canada, it might not be enough.

 

[49ersfootball]

Ottawa's new interim police chief has given up after all of two days on the job. This immediately follows Diane Deans, one of the most unhinged and violently-inclined city councilors, being voted off the Police Services Board yesterday (also mentioned & linked in the same article) in the wake of leaks from within the city council - it would seem the local tyrants are less unified than they'd like to project themselves as being.

Are you serious ?

 

[Spartan303]

Yes and no.

True, the government hasn’t started killing people. But they don’t have to yet either. Just arresting people and otherwise making life miserable for people who resist is more then enough to be effective. And allows them to keep a veneer of civility to their actions.

And while the government is starting to break ranks, I’d argue it’s not enough. We’ve seen just how effective that’s been so far in the USA with the MAGA vs NeoCon politicians in the Republican Party. Sure, they’ve had some successes and that’s nothing to sniff at, but it’s been slow going. And given how Leftist the Conservatives are up in Canada, it might not be enough.

Yes and No.

Yes the situation in Canada is authoritarian as fuck and Canadians should rightly resist. And they're doing it effectively.

The situation of NeoCons vs Maga is has some nuance. Essentially what's happening there is that the NeoCons had long fooled everyone they were on their side. And for over 3 decades they succeeded in doing that. Even after back stabbing the American people and economy again and again. But the Media had a monopoly on information, sland so while people knew what was happening, no one had assembled all the pieces to get an iron clad case.

Then comes the internet and now people have been building a case for years. Finally Conservatives are fed up and begin fighting back. And for a time the Populist Right (Maga) seemed to be winning. But again we were betrayed from within. This was the last straw. Now there are concerted efforts to find NeoCons and primary them. Remove them from office. This last betrayal was the straw that broke the camels back.

But there's more too it than that. While Trump winning was amazing for all of us, in the end we lacked the grass roots power behind it to fundamentally reshape the nation. But Trump did start something amazing. Now Conservatives are Winning everywhere. The Democrats winning the latest election has hurt the country, yes. But it's energized the party to take it to the next level. We are winning municipalities, Mayorships, Governors, senators, school boards. It's sweeping the nation. 2022 is going to be a blood bath for the Democrats and they know it. One on par with if not surpassing the Tea Party wave more than 13 years ago. And then Trump will run in 2024. And I wa t to see Trump unleashed.

And now Canada is Taking steps in that direction. But it's a slow painful process and sadly more than a few people are going to be hurt by this transition.

 

[Circle of Willis]

Hard to say, The last leader of the Conservatives wasn't all that different from Justin.

Western conservatives are, as a rule, further to the right than spineless CINOs like O'Toole. They were the originators of the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, which dragged Canadian conservatism as a whole back to the right after the Progressive Conservatives went into a full-neoliberal death spiral under Brian Mulroney and dropped from over 200 seats to just two in 1993. (The merger of the Alliance and PCs is what created the modern CPC, though obviously the PC remnants have managed to parasitize the CPC and slowly but surely shut out the hardline Alliance types under Harper and O'Toole - Scheer was kinda their last grasp at power and very, very squishy anyway)

Let's put it this way: if the Prairies become American territories/states, I think a lot of Western conservatives (now freed of the need to filter themselves for an Eastern audience and the shadow of CINO leaders like O'Toole) would probably end up in the orbit of someone like Marco Rubio. Not so liberal that they could be classed as RINOs, ala Charlie Baker or Larry Hogan, but not exactly staunch MAGA types like DeSantis or Marjorie Taylor Greene either.

Are you serious ?

Of course I'm serious, you can read the links for yourself if you don't want to take my word for it. What on earth gave you the impression that I would joke about developments such as these?

Anyway, the (physical) crackdown is beginning today. Hopefully the recent snowfall further inconveniences the efforts of the regime's jackboots, now that they seem to have found a replacement for their replacement police chief who's willing to start cracking the protesters' skulls.



Conveniently, Trudeau's use of dictatorial powers has now also prevented the rest of Parliament from even debating & voting on whether he should have those powers in the first place. Confirmed by our very own Pravda.

 

[Husky_Khan]

New Thread Made with Needlessly Provocative Title that will be blamed on the OP!

These were more innocent times...

"Needlessly Provocative" thread title... Oh how quickly Poe's Law comes into effect.

 

[BlackDragon98]

I'm sorry, but this is just black pill dormerism. Yes, the situation is bad but not everything is Nazi Germany. When people start getting executed en mass then you can make that claim in all seriousness. But not now. It's very disingenuous.

You must be joking right?

Let's not lose our heads, here. The establishment is desperate and lashing out. They're losing control of the people and the the PR war. The more they crack down the more people are waking up and turning against them. The cracks in Treadeaus government are starting to show. Eventually we'll see people break ranks. This may eventually see him forced to resign or be removed. And once he's gone then things start getting better. And there will be a reckoning against financial institutions that illegally seized funds. But it has to be legal and by the book.

There is a reason why the left acts as they do. It's easy and gratifying in the moment to give into anger when they react to something they don't like. But we on the right don't react. We respond, but after careful consideration.

All the Truckers have to do is hold the line. Infact I'd recommend more truckers join their ranks. That would bring Canada's economy to a halt and force the issue. No one would like it, but it would work.

They just "temporarily" stopped debate on the Emergencies Act.

And it seems like the sheeple are applauding the fascists in charge.

This is how Nazi Germany was born.

This is how Canada will die.

The majority of police will obey their paychecks.

The majority of truckers will not go on strike and they will obey their paychecks.

Finding people with a spine and a pair is very difficult these days.

Making the two gerbils nervous is even harder.