VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
Apparently the Police have been told to remove the protestors, Lethel force if nessessary.
The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada
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Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
If true, it is important that every hired gun be identified.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
Do it. Go on, I dare you Trudeau. Shot them. Show the world the complete and total loss of the moral high ground the west has had. Show Putin and Xi everything we stand for is a complete lie, not worth the paper you print the propaganda in.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
I'm not exactly sure why Trudeau keeps doubling down and refusing to even meet with the truckers when he has historically been quite the opportunistic little weasel that knew when to jump ship.
There's a couple of possibilities that come to my mind about that. One is that he truly is a petty little tyrant, who simply views these protestors as peasants who must be put down because they challenge his authority. The other possibility is that he actually does believe the things he says about them, because he's been brainwashed into seeing working class white people as sub-human Nazis, and any non-whites who support them as traitors, and even justifies sending in plants and agent provocateurs as a way of simply making it possible to show everyone else what he believes to be true, because these evil Nazis are just too good at hiding their evilness. He is thus ideologically incapable of any compromise with them, or of even listening to anything they might have to say, because he would view that as either compromising with evil, or giving evil a platform to speak.
Circle of Willis
Well-known member
I would not bet on the Canadian military just falling in line behind Trudeau if he gives the order to go full Tiananmen, at all. In general the CAF is not only chronically underfunded and underequipped, but as demoralized as the Americans after Afghanistan and also embroiled in the throes of its own #MeToo moment. They're definitely not in any shape to murder the truckers in the name of Justin Trudeau, and he knows it - hence why he's specified that they aren't on the table, even while under pressure from Biden.
I'm guessing this is a glowop. There has been absolutely no violence, and if cops in the US couldn't gun down rioters burning down cities and attacking police stations/courthouses, there is no way in fuck will cops gun down peaceful protesters.
Cops can frequently be bastards, and do very questionably legal things, but "Go shoot those protesters who aren't leaving", after days of watching them...BBQ, wave Canadian flags, dance, and play music? It won't fly, and it will only make things so much worse.
Keep in mind, all the local soldiers around Beijing during the Tiananmen Square went back home and didn't use lethal force. They basically called in soldiers from hundreds of kilometers away and told them "Clear the Square by morning" so they couldn't empathize with the protesters.
So telling street cops who live in the area to gun down old ladies, parents with their kids, and their drinking buddies looks hilariously pathetic and weak, so it's another fear tactic by the government.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Well also when you have a regime spouting off stuff like "Gun down these peaceful protesters" that's generally when even the police will turn against them and a military junta is likely inbound.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
Word has been Trudeau is using a whole lot of RCMP instead of local cops. Many cops in Ottawa and around have suddenly tested positive for Covid you see, and so they aren't showing up to comply with the regulation. Even when the city gov tells them to, because they are that committed to not spread Covid you see :^).
If it's done, it will be the absolute cream of the crop of "just following orders" local yes-men and Federal Agents fully committed to end local terrorism whose entire info on the subject comes from fact checked and verified government approved sources.
I thought there was one last fall, and only need to come every 4 years?
He has to. But at the same time, Canada has 19,000 or so RCMP police officers. I'll make a guess that 10,000 of them are more investigative types or the ones that approve massive payments to criminal informants while pretending to keep an eye of them (until they kill 20+ people) That sounds like a lot, but they have policing duties over almost 10,000,000 square kilometers. They still have policing duties across large swaths of Canada where there's minimal local or regional police.
There's at least three widescale parking violations and mass jaywalking incidents in Ontario (Windsor, Ottawa, and more recently Cornwall. Sarnia acts up on the regular too). The RCMP already have policing and security duties in Ottawa over Parliament.
But there's a large contingent of RCMP currently at Coots. Then you have the Manitoba border, and possibly also at the US-BC border. If you move lots of federal cops away from, say....New Brunswick or Quebec, locals will probably move in and park illegally at some bridge or border.
The Windsor protest had a lot of London, Ontario police (two hours away), Ottawa has been calling for cops from places like Kingston, Toronto, and likely, Cornwall. If Sarnia acts up hard, where are they going to get cops?
And lastly....the RCMP types can be colossal douches, sure, but the ones I saw in Ottawa are basically relaxed as fuck. They know it's a peaceful protest. They also know they can't really do shit about the trucks. They cleared the cars from Windsor, but most left willingly. So they know if they go full jackboot now, they will only win if every single driver surrenders peacefully. And 99% will probably do so....but the one guy with nothing to lose? The guy from Eastern Europe seeing the parallels of Romania? How the fuck do you stop an 18 wheeler without massive damage or loss of life? If they go full Tiananmen Square, nothing good can happen
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VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
Yeah, from what I've been told from pals in Ottawa, Police are trying to arrest people, but failing spectacularly. You can't load up THOUSANDS of people and expect nothing to happen. Especially seeing as most are in crowds and not like Anti-fa or BLM where it's a couple hundred scattered around. It's quite literally impossible to arrest anyone for anything, as that would include everyone else, which would then spiral into what we saw in Kazakhstan recently.
VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
Sadly no. It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, elections were suspended sometime last year, might be here somewhere.
TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
From what I can recall, a minority government might have to call for new elections every two years. We had elections in 2019 and recently last year. If it was true that Trudeau suspended elections, how much more if he's going to just get the formality and name himself the new dictator?
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
Bill Maher isn't wrong in this case. He's also been outspoken against the dominating views on the Left in a few other cases. Then again, when you have some adherents on the Left becoming so authoritarian and/or bugfuck crazy even Bill Maher is speaking out against them...
Marianne Williamson...meh, I remember when she was a New Age guru during the 90's, she's always been a bit of a space cadet.
VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
After watching several streamers on YT it's become apparent that the FBI or some sort of alternative agency is interfering in the Protests, trying to make it seem as if Protestors aren't being arrested, and when one of these Federal Agent Streamers saw a arrest RIGHT infront of them, she moved the camera out of the way, course it was too late, but she then started acting as if it wasn't happening right in front of her. Seems this is going to be a shithole soon enough.
49ersfootball
Well-known member
3rd week of protests YIKES.
How long before the tide turns against the truckers ?
49ersfootball
Well-known member
Sounds like "Tyler Perry's The Oval" on BET where fictional US President Hunter Franklin & his cronies are exterminating opponents.
Circle of Willis
Well-known member
If you believe what outlets like the CBC have to say, it's already happened. Conveniently all the people they talk to and poll are consistently dead-set against the truckers.
Realistically, probably never. Everyone but the laziest and most fervently government-worshiping soyjacks in Ottawa are sick and tired of COVID authoritarianism, even polls sympathetic to the Trudeau regime find that the majority of those polled at least hate the mandates and the truckers equally. After almost a full week and at least $5 billion in losses, the cops have forcefully cleared the Ambassador Bridge blockade, only for more blockades to start popping up in its place - such is the beauty of the truckers' strategy (handily exploiting the police's inability to be everywhere at once) and the depth of their support across the country.