The USA is currently waging a trade war against both russia and china, and losing.get Canada into a full blown trade war with the US - which Canada would lose.
The US is actually winning both of those.The USA is currently waging a trade war against both russia and china, and losing.
Adding a trade with with canada as well at the same time will be truly catastrophic for the USA.
This is especially pertinent because china already has their claws deep in Canada a the moment.
How are we losing the trade war?
We arnt. China is losing the trade war as they are raking in less money.
It is a slow hurt for them but it is hurting
The US economy is fucked and getting worse by the day.The US is actually winning both of those.
China's economy is fucked and getting worse by the day, if the US really wanted to collapse it the US President could do so with the stroke of a pen.
They are not BS reasons. The tech cartels are literally the greatest threat to every western nation. And are actively working against governments nonstop.Canada deciding that it is a good idea to go after major US corporations for BS reasons (and these are BS reasons)
The US actually has the strongest economy in the world at the moment, at least of any of the major economic players.The US economy is fucked and getting worse by the day.
US inflation is lower than it is in most of the world, and living in poverty in the US puts someone in the top five percent of the global population for standard of living.Unprecedented amounts of Americans are now in poverty, living hand to mouth, and inflation is sky high.
Yeah, no. You plainly have zero understanding of how the global economy actually works or functions. As for getting off the dollar, it gets brought up every few years and remains just as stupid and impossible an idea every time it is brought up.Meanwhile the entire world is starting to align against the USA, aiming to dump the dollar. Which will be a massive blow to USA economy as it relies on using military might to force countries to trade using the petrodollar and then using dollar inflation to rob the entire world to fund welfare.
The US isn't hanging on by a thread, it is hanging on by multiple, redundant, braided steel cables that aren't even really under significant strain.And in the midst of this, where we are barely hanging by a thread.
The notion that the USA is fit to go to a trade war with canada in this condition is ridiculous.
... lolwot?The US actually has the strongest economy in the world at the moment, at least of any of the major economic players.
I'm not sucking Biden's dick. His economic policies are generally very stupid. That does nothing to change the fact that the US economy is hands down the strongest, most diversified, most resilient, most advanced, best positioned in the world.... lolwot?
since when are you sucking biden's dick?
stop listening to corporate media where they tell us that "inflation is at all time low and the economy is doing fine" and talk to actual people.
or just look at the prices
I'm not sucking Biden's dick. His economic policies are generally very stupid. That does nothing to change the fact that the US economy is hands down the strongest, most diversified, most resilient, most advanced, best positioned in the world.
AMENI'm not sucking Biden's dick. His economic policies are generally very stupid. That does nothing to change the fact that the US economy is hands down the strongest, most diversified, most resilient, most advanced, best positioned in the world.
I don't think that is what Tippy is remotely arguing here though @mrttao is making a bad argument here based on conjecture, Tippy isn't arguing that we ignore our problems, he is arguing that despite our problems the rest of the world has its own and we shouldn't ignore them in analysis of global events due to our over fixation on our own in relation.Just because we are making the least amount of mistakes doesn't mean we should be excusing the ones we are making, especially when it's so easy to correct. We have never had a natural famine in our history (The Dust Bowl was brought about by bad politics and mishandling of farming.) We have no excuse for our economy to ever be bad with the sheer amount of resources we have.
Yeah, things are noticeably worse in the US than they used to be.... lolwot?
since when are you sucking biden's dick?
stop listening to corporate media where they tell us that "inflation is at all time low and the economy is doing fine" and talk to actual people.
or just look at the prices
The US economy is fucked and getting worse by the day.
Unprecedented amounts of Americans are now in poverty, living hand to mouth, and inflation is sky high.
Meanwhile the entire world is starting to align against the USA, aiming to dump the dollar. Which will be a massive blow to USA economy as it relies on using military might to force countries to trade using the petrodollar and then using dollar inflation to rob the entire world to fund welfare.
And in the midst of this, where we are barely hanging by a thread.
The notion that the USA is fit to go to a trade war with canada in this condition is ridiculous.
*Laughs at the retard*
The main advantage the USA still has (and hasn't pissed away or ruined with bad policies) is the petrodollar. which means americas inflation is everyone's inflation.Yeah, things are noticeably worse in the US than they used to be.
I was just noticing yesterday that my preferred cheese costs almost twice what it did a decade ago. Gas is still up ~75% from when Trump was in office, interest rates are lousy, and all kinds of other shit is going wrong.
None of this changes the fact that anything and everything that is worse in the USA, is much worse in almost all other countries.
You do not understand the sheer, crushing, comprehensive, economic and strategic advantages the USA has over other nations. You do not understand how everything that is pushing us into decline, every other western nation suffers from, usually worse.
And that's the West. China and most non-western nations are even worse.
The only possible rival/future surpasser for the USA on the horizon at this point is India, and that's still decades away at the earliest. Four times the population helps, not being completely overrun by post-modernists helps, but they have their own massive problems that the US doesn't, like toxic religious ethics entrenched in caste culture, and two hostile nuclear powers who've attacked them with conventional forces directly on their borders.
The US should be in much better shape than it is. If Biden hadn't been cheated into office, we would have had another 3 years of growth under Trump, rather than of stagnation.
Compared to other nations, we at least have a chance at growth and economic revival. The political scene for almost all other nations is completely screwed.
I am actually very well aware of the problems other countries are facing.Sixth in his defense the american media has been utter garbage for 30 years for the most part people don't realize that all of these problems affecting america are global problems or if they do they don't realize the degree or that in many cases that many other countries have it worse.
Its natural for people to know alot about their own countries problems and not know as much about other countries issues, and when you put the entire global picture together and see everyones some kind of fucked....thats a hard truth to swallow.
And here's the key place you're wrong.> me: usa is losing its 2 way trade war with china and russia. and can ill afford to make it a 3 way trade war by adding canada too
And here's the key place you're wrong.
America is not losing trade war with Russia, with China, or with both.
Russia and China are both in the process of long-term bad decisions tantamount to economic suicide catching up with them.
The US is dealing with a number of long-term drags on its economy, combined with short-term attempts to kill it by the Biden administration.
Neither China nor Russia have anything going for them that suggests a positive economic future. They're in demographic collapse, they have no friends, few allies of convenience, have actively pissed off their most important trading partners, lack the fundamental capacity to be self-sufficient at anything approaching a modern economic level, and most importantly, nothing they provide to the rest of the world cannot be gathered from somewhere else. All of this is before getting into the fact that they are some of the most corrupt nations in the world, actively deterring attempts to fix their entrenched cultural and institutional problems, and also stifling innovation.
China's economic growth for the last 40 years was built on the back of cheap labor. It is now outcompeted for this by many other nations, which also do not come with the massive negative side-effects to dealing with the Chinese. Russia's economy is based on resource extraction, their capacity for advanced manufacturing is pathetic, and degrading, not improving, as their old talent dies off and their young talent flees the country to avoid being drafted, both of these in increasing numbers.
The USA has a superior resource extraction economy to the Russians, and once we stop having a Dem in the white house shoot us in the foot regularly, Russia getting booted out of the energy market will make us shit-tons of cash money as we export to Europe.
There is nothing China does for the USA that the USA cannot do itself, the only thing they had was that they'd do the same things cheaper, albeit also generally at lower quality. Now they don't even have that going compared to other options.
The USA is suffering weak growth compared to what it's used to right now. If you correct for funny numbers games and inflation, we may arguably be stagnant or slightly contracting economically. China and Russia are barreling towards economic implosion.
To claim they're 'beating us in a trade war' is to show you have no idea what you're talking about.
I have at no point said we do not have problems. We certainly do.You say this like the USA doesn’t have its own demographic collapse going on, or that we haven’t made a mess of our own system of alliance. Or that our own economic growth isn’t going to continue to collapse thanks to importing Third World South America and the Middle East, along with the collapse of the Middle Class.
I have at no point said we do not have problems. We certainly do.
However.
1. Our demographic collapse is nowhere near as bad as almost anywhere else in the first world. The Millennial generation in the USA is proportionately larger than basically anywhere else, and while our birth rates are continuing to decline, they have not declined anywhere near as far or fast yet as the rest of the modern world's.
2. Excess immigration is a problem, but it is not the same kind of existential threat it is in Europe. Europe is largely being inundated by military-age islamists who want to destroy western civilization, and get a free ride off of European welfare states as part of doing so. America is largely being inundated with Latin American catholics who actually are coming here to work, even if they're doing so illegally.
Do not misunderstand my statement on this. We should absolutely close the borders. We should absolutely cut legal migration down to a trickle, and stop illegal migration cold and hard. A lot of cartel members are coming in to the US to smuggle drugs, expand their criminal network, and more. All of this is bad, and one of the largest issues that our nation faces. It's still not a patch on the shit that Europe is dealing with.
3. The sheer size of the USA means that there is little to nothing in the way of natural resources that we cannot provide ourselves, and provide abundantly. This is a powerful advantage.
4. The USA's history as and continuing status as the world center of technological innovation is an enormous advantage, and conditions in the rest of the developed world are generally getting worse for such things, not better, meaning innovators and entrepreneurs are likely to continue 'brain draining' into the US. Even if/as things get worse here, they're still better than elsewhere, and getting worse faster in other places, which is to the US's advantage, even if it's still a bleak story.
5. Having been the world's economic superpower for most of the last 100 years, including comprising more than a quarter of the total economic output for decades, means there's already a level of wealth and prosperity entrenchment here that gives another advantage.
6. Christianity is more or less a dead cultural force in Europe, Canada, and Russia. It's still alive in the USA, even if it is troubled. Ironically, in the long run China has a more alive faith community than Europe, they're just completely locked out of political power by the CCP, for now. Once that shackle eventually shatters, it will be interesting seeing what changes there.
In summation, are things worse than they should be? Absolutely.
Are they still so much better here than almost anywhere else? Also Absolutely.