TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
They have displayed that tendency with the Trucker Convoy, and they'd easily do it again. Honestly, Canada might end up exploding in violence if this keeps up.
The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada
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f1onagher
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India is the only other nation on Earth in the same weight class as the US or China. They may be developmentally behind the ball and have a rather vestigial international presence, but they can fuck with the international economy same as the other big boys.
Canada meanwhile is too small to have much hard power to throw around. It can only flourish as either a vassal of the US or a prestigious member of an international free trade order. Meaning that any diplomatic fuckup on Canada's part hurts them more than the other party.
Bluntly put, the West's chauvinistic dismissal of India is becoming a problem. I understand why the gulf exists: India is dogged in its instance of international neutrality, actual neutrality too, not the western kind where you can do anything short of actually shooting someone. But the fact they they refuse to kiss the ring is no reason to not take them seriously. I probably have more contempt for the Hindu portion of the world than most people, but India is nonetheless a major player in a portion of the world that is not ossifying like Europe. If we can tolerate the Saudis funding international terrorism for decades, the French running a shadow empire, and Israel selling off American tech secrets while refusing to share their own we can work around India's foibles.
TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
I'm also sure that there's also a religious divide that's also a factor, but I kinda suspect that the Sikh community in Canada may be divided over this whole Khalistan issue as well. The caste system that's present or was present in Hindi societies may also be a factor as to why India might also have a bad rep.
Circle of Willis
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We now have Indian politicians publicly threatening to bring about the Day of the Rake. Exceedingly unlikely to ever amount to anything in the realm of serious reality of course, as far as I can tell this is just some low-level whackjob blowing off steam on live TV, so no we don't need to seek the nearest nuclear bunker any time soon. But even though I am Canadian myself, I find this pretty funny. Cue the Nuclear Gandhi memes.
To add some context to this whole kerfuffle around the assassination of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, we've had a problem with being infiltrated by Sikh ultranationalists for quite some time. The infamous Air India bombing back in 1985 (the deadliest terror attack in our history, and the deadliest act of terrorism involving a plane in history until 9/11) was conducted by Khalistanis - the aforementioned Sikh ultranationalists who want to carve their own country out of India - but they couldn't have done it without help from moles in the CSIS (who further destroyed a crapton of evidence to cover their tracks and ensured that none of the suspects faced justice save one; that guy, Inderjit Singh Reyat, has been free and living at home in BC since 2017 BTW). This is something that even Wikipedia has to admit, in what's a not-so-bad cliff notes version of what was going on behind the scenes. So if the Indian government actually assassinated Singh Nijjar, as they probably did IMO, I can't fully blame them for not trusting the Canadian gov't (especially not THIS one) to act against him themselves and taking matters into their own hands.
Furthermore Jagmeet Singh, leader of the socialist NDP and Trudeau's junior coalition partner, is also a very thinly veiled Khalistani supporter himself who could barely bring himself to mildly condemn the mastermind behind the above bombing, a year after he was first questioned about it. He is probably the man pushing Trudeau the hardest onto a collision course with Modi, since if Trudeau doesn't do as he commands, he can topple the government & force a new election overnight.
Tl;dr this is what happens when your country's sense of nationalism becomes deader than the dodo & you're no longer capable of assimilating immigrant populations, folks. They'll bring their own ethnic & sectarian grudges into their new homes and proceed to get right back up to the same old bullshit they (supposedly) fled from. Instead of having Indo-Canadians, we have on our hands Sikhs & Hindus who just happen to live in Canada, and are acting accordingly against their sworn enemies (each other) - all that, and because they represent potent voting blocs, they can drag your government (which should normally have no business in this regard) into said inter-ethnic shitflinging too. Can't imagine either will get along with our Pakistani population either, which is also quite big and a pillar of support for the Liberals.
Most probably this incident will crystallize Sikh support for the NDP (and to a lesser extent the Liberals) and Hindu support for the Conservatives in 2025, but that in itself is already a bad thing in my view, since it just adds a hard partisan dimension onto an already ugly ethno-sectarian divide.
To add some context to this whole kerfuffle around the assassination of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, we've had a problem with being infiltrated by Sikh ultranationalists for quite some time. The infamous Air India bombing back in 1985 (the deadliest terror attack in our history, and the deadliest act of terrorism involving a plane in history until 9/11) was conducted by Khalistanis - the aforementioned Sikh ultranationalists who want to carve their own country out of India - but they couldn't have done it without help from moles in the CSIS (who further destroyed a crapton of evidence to cover their tracks and ensured that none of the suspects faced justice save one; that guy, Inderjit Singh Reyat, has been free and living at home in BC since 2017 BTW). This is something that even Wikipedia has to admit, in what's a not-so-bad cliff notes version of what was going on behind the scenes. So if the Indian government actually assassinated Singh Nijjar, as they probably did IMO, I can't fully blame them for not trusting the Canadian gov't (especially not THIS one) to act against him themselves and taking matters into their own hands.
Furthermore Jagmeet Singh, leader of the socialist NDP and Trudeau's junior coalition partner, is also a very thinly veiled Khalistani supporter himself who could barely bring himself to mildly condemn the mastermind behind the above bombing, a year after he was first questioned about it. He is probably the man pushing Trudeau the hardest onto a collision course with Modi, since if Trudeau doesn't do as he commands, he can topple the government & force a new election overnight.
Tl;dr this is what happens when your country's sense of nationalism becomes deader than the dodo & you're no longer capable of assimilating immigrant populations, folks. They'll bring their own ethnic & sectarian grudges into their new homes and proceed to get right back up to the same old bullshit they (supposedly) fled from. Instead of having Indo-Canadians, we have on our hands Sikhs & Hindus who just happen to live in Canada, and are acting accordingly against their sworn enemies (each other) - all that, and because they represent potent voting blocs, they can drag your government (which should normally have no business in this regard) into said inter-ethnic shitflinging too. Can't imagine either will get along with our Pakistani population either, which is also quite big and a pillar of support for the Liberals.
Most probably this incident will crystallize Sikh support for the NDP (and to a lesser extent the Liberals) and Hindu support for the Conservatives in 2025, but that in itself is already a bad thing in my view, since it just adds a hard partisan dimension onto an already ugly ethno-sectarian divide.
Circle of Willis
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Double post I know, but in yet another very recent scandal, this past Friday Parliament (and also Zelensky himself, who was visiting) gave a standing ovation to a 98-year-old Ukrainian 'freedom fighter' from WW2, introduced as such:
Alas, it has since turned out to be the case that the 'First Ukrainian Division' this man fought in should have been more accurately described as the 'First Galician Division'. As in, the 14th SS Volunteer Division (1st Galician). Ironically, the only major party leader who did not participate in giving this guy an ovation would be our resident 'far-rightist' Maxime Bernier, because he doesn't have a seat in Parliament in the first place.
This scandal is starting to really pop off now because Jewish organizations, obviously, are objecting to what happened very loudly. There are people demanding Speaker Anthony Rota resign over this, and his fellow Liberals are throwing him under the bus, but of course so far we're not getting anything better than a feeble apology for apparently being so incapable of basic research that hearing someone be described as 'a WW2 Eastern European veteran who fought against the Russians' didn't immediately set off alarm bells in his head. In general Trudeau is allergic to accountability and Rota has been a good little footsoldier for the Liberal Party for the past ~20 years, so even if public pressure forces him to resign at a later point in time, he will almost certainly be given a golden parachute into some cushy consulting gig or a seat on a Trudeau-affiliated organization's board somewhere out of sight anyway. And the Russians certainly aren't missing a beat when it comes to seizing upon the free ammo handed to them by Trudeau and the Grits, either.
The article said:
Alas, it has since turned out to be the case that the 'First Ukrainian Division' this man fought in should have been more accurately described as the 'First Galician Division'. As in, the 14th SS Volunteer Division (1st Galician). Ironically, the only major party leader who did not participate in giving this guy an ovation would be our resident 'far-rightist' Maxime Bernier, because he doesn't have a seat in Parliament in the first place.
This scandal is starting to really pop off now because Jewish organizations, obviously, are objecting to what happened very loudly. There are people demanding Speaker Anthony Rota resign over this, and his fellow Liberals are throwing him under the bus, but of course so far we're not getting anything better than a feeble apology for apparently being so incapable of basic research that hearing someone be described as 'a WW2 Eastern European veteran who fought against the Russians' didn't immediately set off alarm bells in his head. In general Trudeau is allergic to accountability and Rota has been a good little footsoldier for the Liberal Party for the past ~20 years, so even if public pressure forces him to resign at a later point in time, he will almost certainly be given a golden parachute into some cushy consulting gig or a seat on a Trudeau-affiliated organization's board somewhere out of sight anyway. And the Russians certainly aren't missing a beat when it comes to seizing upon the free ammo handed to them by Trudeau and the Grits, either.
We are living in a fucking clown world.
A fucking clown world.
A fucking clown world.
sander093
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In before the liberals and NDP are somehow not the ones giving the ovation, only the conservatives.
And as a Canadian I can only chuckle at the turd deciding the best response to being accused as a state sponsor of terrorism by India is to give an ovation to an actual Nazi. Has India said anything about this latest gaffe by the turd and friends?
Typhonis
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Not yet, give it time.
TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
Indian media is milking the Canadian clown show for all it’s worth.
So is American media or at least Fox News.
TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
At the very least a good chunk of Canada will party like crazy if the Turd resigned
I don't think that's in the cards, hes either going to be removed by election, force, or natural causes everything I've seen thus far says that Trudeu isn't one to give up power ever.
Of course he won't: El Castro's Hijo Presidente For Life!
The Yaroslav Hunka thing keeps popping into my head at odd hours of the day and I keep cracking up every single time.
"The Trucker Protesters are evil, racist, Nazi undesirables. Anyway, let's all clap for the literal Waffen SS member!"
Trudeu hates people who are a threat to his personal power far more then actual nazis.
Authoritarian dictators always do.
I honestly believe he's Castro's love child, and that his mother was a cheating whore. There are just too many things that line up, especially how he looks pretty much like him.
So, I guess it runs in the family, heh.
49ersfootball
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What did Trudeau do this time around ?
Well,he is neo commie,and commies was german allies till they backstabbed them,so....
Could it count as logical explanation? Becouse i do not feel convinced by my own argument,and i need logical explanations for everything.
That,actually,is better argument that mine,but i still want something better...but could not found it.