i really like this fic, it's original and really captures the sense of scale of a galactic empire, and really reminds me of dune-like sci fi settings, but just one question, is the usa just going to keep scoring victories no matter what like a badly written HFY fic or are they actually going to suffer actual setbacks and actually have consequences for a single un-united planet technologically backwards fighting against even just what is basically space mercenaries with the ultimate high ground and outnumbered,
and even after having created an actual fleet of ships be to the greater empire what a small island nation on earth is to the usa and not some weird bullshit of this one small planet somehow dictating terms on an equal footing with a trans-galactic empire.
Have they been scoring victories like no matter what? Even the invasion of Cheyenne mountain resulted in a large majority of the defenders being killed by what amounted to the Secret Service detail of two VIP's within Snake society and not actual soldiers. When they defeated Ra's Jaffa, I think I had Ra keep several thousand Jaffa aboard the Mandjet because he didn't think the Abydonians were dumb enough to rebel twice in as many centuries since he carpet bombed their planet the last time they did. And they won that largely due to Kasuf showing up ten thousand dudes and Ra decided to retreat so he could call for the destruction of Earth with the full might of the Imperium.
Their victory on Chulak had more to do with the fact that they got lucky that most of the people in the area were academy students and soldiers in training who were partially in shock because their version of General Lee suddenly and abruptly committed treason and no one was sure what the hell was going on..plus some sabotage.
Horus? He wiped the floor with them and their "victory" was more in Horus being impressed by Jack's integrity and the Nox deciding humans were fun pets...whose patronage is a hell of a double edged sword wouldn't you think?
Even right now, they're winning against the broken remnants of a third rate military power and then only because most of those guys weren't armed.
Earth forces have faced down six peers I believe, and got stomped on by four of them. That is hardly an HFY track record and I'm doing my best to go against the usual tenant of "Only Earth has professional armed forces" trope you see in most SG fanfics. And their encounter to the Tollan amounted to nearly being exterminated by an irate dictatress who was trying to save face over an imagine slight because she's neurotic as hell.
How they handle the armada of mercenaries and a few Jaffa coming at them, is something you'll have to read to find out. But it won't be "Earth stomp mudhole in fleet of two thousand warships" even if most of that fleet is comprised of shoddy PMC's its still going to be a huge deal.
also i really get the whole defiance against a vastly superior enemy that outnumbers and outtechs you even worse than the primitive tribes of the pacific against the europeans thing but do not a single one of them really not even think for a moment that perhaps they should focus on diplomatically making sure that the whole of the empire doesn't think that they need to be smacked down earlier in the story?(before apophis making secret fleet) like in the earlier scenes it read like the us is thinking that the best way to deal with the fact that the us is basically the equivalent of a backwards tribe in the middle of nowhere compared to the empire is to focus solely on armed opposition which seems odd.
Yes, that's quite literally the mandate of the SGC right now. The United States stellar Navy's mandate is to try and build up a fleet nasty enough that Earth looks like a cactus patch near an oasis that's better off being walked around than confronted for the aggravation caused by stomping through it or the time wasted burning it out. But the whole goal of the SGC is to play cold war politics as the third world country caught between two superpowers (The House of Ra and the House of Tartarus.) with the end goal of doing business with the Imperium
not toppling it.
]also i keep getting the odd feeling in this thread about a general feeling of commit basically genocide or attempt to on the empire and this will somehow solve something and not basically end in the entirety of earth getting destroyed in some kind of space jihad
Nah, people are just shitposting and having some fun or letting their outrage at Amunet's unique solution to The Host's conciseness problem. I like their comments and don't mind them, especially since they've been a big help in figuring out how to set up the USSN.
you know a bit like how a 9/11 lead to the us invading a country with barely to nothing to do with it on false pretences except instead of 9/11 you are clearly dealing with a bunch of barbarians who has not only murdered your leaders and gods and priests and alot of other people but also probably someone you are related to and your friends as well and quite clearly have to be exterminated lest they continue and murder even more.
There are quintillions of Lotar and trillions of Goa'uld if you count the lesser breeds, a couple dozen Or so System Lords and probably about eighty peers. spread out across three Galaxies. (Maybe four) I don't think the US could realistically exterminate that nor would such a story interest me in the writing thereof.
(i just read that hypothetical terran confederacy flashback and honestly in tribalistic jingoist hfy it sounds nice but really can you imagine how WE in a dominant galactic empire position would react if a minor backwater state thats tiny outright threatens to commit mass nuclear terrorist attacks? any being with any sense wouldn't just accept that, and states(from china to russia to uk to america) commit horrible atrocities to stay afloat in real life you know? who's to say such a hypothetical state when faced with such a threat wouldn't start with their ashrak committing a CIA on us and end with total extermination of the terran race "just in case")
The System Lords spent 60,000 years fighting some of the most powerful species in existence over an attempt to do something less egregious than genocide. They exterminated two of those species and broke the other's cultural backs. I think Teal'cs debrief made it abundantly clear that attempting such a thing would end in nothing but grief.
honestly the most realistic best ending for earth would be to be something like america before ww1 or qing china though, isolationist, looking inward and not make enemies they can't afford to make for no reason. it'd even be good for the people, no reason to go on countless offensive wars on flimsy reasons and the whims of the military-industrial complex
Probably more like the US post the ACW/ Spanish American War or World War One, respected as an honest broker, a major (relative to size) trade partner and the impartial softpower dude people go to when they want disputes arbitrated by someone without skin in the game.
The whole strategy is to either become loud enough they'll be left alone or to gain a rep as a solid guy that can be counted on in a pinch even if he is a little guy.
