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"The President is a criminal for exercising his first amendment right and encouraging others to do so."
Brilliant take.
Pretty much this, Donald Trump's greatest achievement was bringing back Bill Clinton's take on Reaganomics.
Which is lightyears ahead of his predecessors, successor and detractors but that's an incredibly low bar.
The point of any Trump Presidency should be to use him as a wrecking ball so that while he's distracting all the uniparty traitors you sneak up behind him and replace them at the infrastructural level.
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LOL!🤣🤣🤣
"Criminal"? No. Irresponsible? Yes. Also moronic? Yes.
It's as if legal accountability isn't connected to personal accountability for ones own actions in any given situation.
Nothing Trump did was illegal but it did lead us to a lot of unnecessary grief due to his unessecary actions.
Politics is all about using your political capital wisely and he didn't.
Also I am at work but will post more on this later tonight now that I have had awhile to cool down.
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It's very important to roll over and do nothing when there is an organized, international conspiracy to alter an election to subvert the will of the American people so that a cartel of various special interest groups and institutional simps can install their puppet and restore a status quo that harms Americans. "Better luck next time." Of course, of course...
Trump and everyone who protested was acting on their duties as American citizens and within their rights to challenge all election results everywhere.
It is very important to doubt and question the state and its legal apparatus. One could argue forcing accountability and vexing public servants is an obligation that all American citizens ought to fulfill at least once in their lives.
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Sure! Sure! Your right! Trump couldn't have done anything crazy! He couldn't have just 'respected the electors vote' but decried the fraud amongst the popular as making it illegitimate!😃
I mean, I am glad we have spent so much time the past two years watching Trump be made to stand before committee, after committee telling people he wasn't responsible it just puts more focus on that great subject!🥰
I mean think of it! If Trump had just walked away like I outlined above we would be listening to so much crap right now, who knows what type of insane shit he would be doing if he wasnt so busy!
Well that's very nice it's lucky I have never condemned them for it so much as felt they went stupidly and thoughtlessly about it!
How well did this attempt turn out? What would have been your best case scenario? Where their no other alternative methods or routes? So many questions!
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Lets see here.
Trust in society and the order of law is at an all-time low, no one is really moderate anymore, and the left-right divide is being reoriented around national populism and minarchism vs interventionism and tyranny. The attempts to persecute, torture, prosecute and murder the participants of the great boomer walkathon has made enormous swaths of Federal Law Enforcement persona non Grata in huge parts of the country. FBI are on antidepressants, demoralized. Reporting panic attacks and being disowned by their loved ones...etc There's public begging by establishments hacks to please, please stop rejecting the status quo and we're on the verge of a housing market collapse that'll wipe out the Chinese economy and those vile usurious meddlers like Fink and co and their engines of social control.
And more and more Americans are hostile to the idea that anything in Eastern Europe matters.
All in all, I say things are turning out pretty well.
And every time they raid his estate, every time they sperg out and obsess over him, every time they fan his ego they do what again?
Oh right, further obliterate public trust in a powerful and well funded Federal Government.
Let them continue.
You are on the mark with most things, but not this, not outside the fringe right that only cares about preaching to a small choir.
The majority of the US is caring more about Eastern Europe than they at any time have since the Wall fell.
Mistaking support of Ukraine with support for the Radical Left is massive, and likely costly come 2024, mistake for the Far Right, as if people like Milo and Fuentes hadn't sabotaged it enough already.
Biden is unpopular and may well croak before 2024, but he's just Obama's puppet anyway, and Kamala is just waiting for get the title First Female POTUS, assuming Hillary doesn't run again and split the Dems.
You keep dismissing and downplaying shit like Ray Epps trying to organize things the night before, or all the the other bits of Glowie/Antifa agent provacators in the crowds, or the way many literally walked in thinking the police were Ok with it and that is was all kosher.
Those who looted offices or actually broke windows or locks, or physically assaulted a LEO, I can understand charging, but this has gone beyond that, so far beyond that, particularly with what we now know about FBI involvement in instigating the violence that day. Even if Trump had lost legitimately, which I am not convinced he did (due to how hard the Dems fought the audits and the later news about connections between election software companies and the CCP/Dems), he did not set off the violence that day and did try to get people to be peaceful.
Your arguments here are effectively justifying the Dems and FBI turning that day into an American Reichstag's Fire, and blaming Trump for things not really in his control; remember, Trump wanted Nat Guard there to control the crowd and it was Pelosi/Milley who refused, and remember how SCOTUS punted rather than rule on evidence like they did in 2000.
I get being sour on Trump do to his personality, I really do; there is a reason I did not go to any of the events I got invites for from his campaign. However, let's not heap deep state lies, psy-ops, and glowie agitators actions onto Trump; plenty enough to critisize him for without buying the lies they've tries to gaslight us with for years now.
I'm not mistaking support for the most corrupt nation on Earth for a leftist position. I'm saying most Americans look at support for the Uklraine, roll their eyes and say "That's globalist bullshit, I just won't vote if that's on the table."
I interact with normies, I do business with Normies, and I rent properties to normies. I had a tenant get arrested for burning a Ukrainian flag outside a neighbor's house. Why? "Fuck them, my brother shot himself rather than be homeless". People are becoming extremely antipathetic to foreign adventurism and globalism in general, and both Russia and the Ukraine and their citizens have become whipping boys for tens of millions of Americans who see themselves stuck in a dead-end job, with increasingly worthless money unable to have more than one kid when they want a large family and why? Because in their mind we've bled ourselves dry maintaining people in the old world.
I hear more Anti-slav rhetoric in family restaurants than I do online. Only the upper middle class cares about the most recent Eastern European bitchfit. Because they're a bunch of overly educated imbeciles who always vote against their own interests.
Nobody cares anymore, all they see is another foreign adventure to enrich our effete, seditious and perverted ruling elite while Americans are ODing by the hundreds of thousands and upward mobility is a pipe dream.
Like I said part of liberating America from this tyranny is for American people to start actively hating their government and rejecting the academic and managerial classes. Once that happens Americans can begin fixing their country and maybe even start holding people accountable in a very decisive way.
But that does kinda suck for all the innocent people caught between Zelensky and his child trafficking buddies and Putin and his drug dealer homies.
...I think you are living in a far right bubble, and it's Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
It is a nation unto itself, not simple a part of Russia, and most of the US recognizes that, and recognize the difference between a righteous war of defense for a nation-state seeking independence and 'foreign adventurism'. Also, realize no matter how you and your friends feel, the former Warsaw Bloc nations in NATO and Eastern Europe are not going to let Russia roll over Ukraine, and will make sure Ukraine can both retake their entire nation. Turkey in particular seems to be able to push and pull leverage on Russia out of all the NATO states, and well, we know how the Finns see the Russians when it comes to them entering NATO.
Putin will go to the grave trying to carve something like a victory out of this mess at the cost of the future of his nation, much like the Tsar did. Most of Europe is united in opposing Russian and aiding Ukraine in it's defense, as is most of the Western world as a whole, because this time the Bear is the bigger evil than any other threat to the area.
Who succeeds Putin is the real question we should be asking, when it comes to how this war end in terms of getting the Russians to withdraw across the Border and stop firing across the border.
Because that is what this war has reduced Russia to; a CCP/Iranian proxy against the West. Where as Ukraine...Zelensky, he is not anywhere near the piece of terminally ill ofal that Putin is, and Ukrainians not wanting to be ruled by Moscow is not just some western psy-op. MH17 happened, and even Girkin is now completely disillusioned and expectant of defeat; he even expects to be put in the Hague and then hung in Kyiv after the war, if Russia does not find a way to withdraw while maintaining internal stability.
Russia's neighbors hate them because they know them, and have suffered under them for years. This war is happening in part because Russian influence was a huge part of the corruption in Ukraine and eastern Europe that has been getting purged under wartime law, due to said Russian connections.
Don't forget that the difference between Russian mafia and KGB/FSB/Kremlin is just what level of bribery and asskiss is necessary to move in said circles.
And do not forget that Russia is also to blame for the Marxists infiltration in the west at the end of the day, so their own beast of wokism and PC-ness will finally be turned against them.
We cannot beat the Left by trying to go Pinochet, and shouldn't try, it just won't work in America, and that is part of the Far Right's problem with messaging.
However, beating the Left by going full bore on commies of all stripes and those who support them (Russian, CCP, NK, Iran, Syria, etc.)...has potential; carve the transgressive-Left out of the US using it's connections to/deep roots in Soviet psy-ops/agents in western academia, business, and politics.
The Cold War never ended, it just went into half-time, and it's time to root out the commies tendrils in US institutions.
I live in a city with three and a half million people, most of which are exiles from Latin America and the Caribbean, if all of them were far right the US would be a totally alien place. You only need 3 percent of the population to be "far right" to change that nation forever completely.
Also I'll continue to call it the Ukraine, because that's all it's ever been. A bulwark of ex-slaves propped up to halt the advance of Eastern powers.
Like Palestine, it's a very convenient fiction everyone agrees on to pursue a morally bankrupt agenda that benefits the intelligence apparatus of the nations of the world and little else.
Here let me make it clear for you since you seem to think I like Russia
I'm South American..South Americans... do not like Slavic peoples overmuch. Except the Polish because they're the ultimate survivors. Culturally, the country I come from still doesn't really see Russians or anyone from Eastern Europe as people sometimes. I don't share that prejudice and personally find it silly but I'm perfectly capable of recognizing two things.
1, that there is no objective difference between Russia and the Ukraine and their issues and the issues of two central African states hellbent on ethnically cleansing each other for the stupidest fucking reasons are virtually nonecistent. This is Rwanda 2.0 but on a larger scale, if Rwanda had separated.
2, That Vladimir Putin is the Mobutu Sese Seko of Russia and that Zelensky is Eastern Europe's Idi Amin
Why in the absolute fuck would I care what happens to two broken nations, run by blood mad tyrants? I barely care about Europe and you expect me to care about The Congo of the East? I don't give a fuck if they destroy each other, if Russia gets conquered by the junky who played a piano with his penis or if The Ukraine falls and the Drug Kingpin who fancies himself a Tsar wins
I don't fucking care, because all I care about is what's happening In North, South, Central America and the Caribbean. Nothing else matters to me except as a curiosity.
No one outside of the Americas matters to me Bacle...they're all our competition and all of them can go fuck themselves for how they've abused us, used us and false flagged us into two worlds wars and nation destroying brushfires.
We've killed in excess of 30,000,000 people across two centuries cleaning up their messes Bacle...I don't fucking care anymore.
I'm done with them.
With Americans being left to rot and be homeless because they need cheap gas or cheap heroine. America blasted 2,000,000 Vietnamese commies into pudding so French pedos could get high off Vietnamese opium and fucking pharma companies could catch a painkiller payday.
We got duped into backing a bunch of sun-worshipping zealots who had burned North Korea into a post-apocalyptic Wasteland so the Belgians could profit off of easier trade then got shocked when we got embroiled into a shitstorm that has spanned three quarters of a fucking century my man...And indirectly led to the rise of a communist doomsday state that inspired Jim Jones.
We supported Mao over Chiang Kai Shek because "Fascism was bad" only for us to repent of that too late and then leave one of our best allies high and dry...Oh and all the while we're cheering free trade with Cheecoms who are brainwashing our kids and destroying our nation and wrecking our working class.
We overcame the USSR and the cost of that was Eastern Europe collapsing harder than fucking central Africa during the great Eurotrash pull out game and leaving them open to jihad by the Middle East which has created more radical Islamists than it has ardent capitalists...oh and it made the CIA so strong they murdered a President and took over the country.
What has involvement in European affairs gotten us?
Nothing but a loss of power, wealth and prestige and the subversion of our Republic, and the rape of our children.
Nah Bacle, let them all burn.
I don't care.
And you know what? Tens of millions of Americans like me don't care because we're more preoccupied with tranny rape gangs setting up actual rape camps in our schools backed by the FBI and the local government and if the few children we have who don't end up cutting their dicks off or killing themselves will be able to have a home with some dogs and kids of their own.
Or if they're gonna live sad, lonely lives in shithole apartments in disgusting cities filled with aids, murderers, communists and thugs.
Our priorities aren't yours.
Probably because you aren't a parent.
Our concern is our nation and its ability to provide upward mobility and stability to our children...that's it.
Nothing else matters.,
Oh well, thems the breaks.
Fuck NATO...Fuck the EU, fuck the UN and fuck Russia and its drug kingpin President.
Actually the real question we should be asking is when are the treason trials against the command staff of our military, our state department and the board of directors of Lockheed Martin and Northrup Grunman going to start.
And when we are gonna shutdown the CIA? And replace it with an entity that didn't murder a sitting US president and his brother and conspire to overthrow another
You know why this happened?
Because we didn't just tell Europe to unfuck itself and stop bothering us.
Let them...fight...Let them fight alone.
We cannot support people who undermine us and hate us and threaten our national survival And every single globalist institution does this.
Christ this is why I trollishly say "Academics are the enemy" in places like Cafe Versailles and instantly trigger a bunch of octogenarian IRL fedposts
You act like Pinochet was inherently bad for Chile, it all went to hell after his policies were repealed.
I'll say this for the junta militares of the 1970's and 80's. The fact that we were so fucking lazy and complacent and stupid that we allowed that insanity to be the only way forward is an unforgivable sin that we will spend the next century atoning for.
America isn't there yet...but part of turning back is taking a zero-tolerance approach toward America's institutions and those who serve them.
We need to restore the Republic at the ballot box and use all legal and softpower resources at our disposal for if we do not...we'll only be left with pain.
Part of that is rejecting globalistic meddling.
Europe is an ancient continent, its peoples make us look like infants, they've unfucked themselves before. Many, many times...pulling themselves back from the apocalypse to build wonders and create burning flames of civilization that altered our species destiny forever.
They can do it one more time.
Edit- Honestly surprised people from the UK don't have a similar sentiment? What has mainland Euroupe ever gotten them? Except loss of sovereignty and invasions and having their own royal family usurped and cucked by a line of drug dealing German globalists. Pain, death and misery and the empire they built for themselves got passed away courtesy of yet another Germanic chimp out.
It's gotta be infuriating for them too.
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Look, I'm just going to say this directly; you are living in a Latin American/ex-South American bubble, or at least an ideological bubble regarding foreign issues, from your own description.
Most of the US does not share your disdain for people outside the Americas, do not see Ukraine as Rwanda 2.0, do not see Zelensky as just as bad as Putin, or feel that Ukraine is just part of Russia that wants to break away.
The only thing this argument shows is that AnCaps are not the only ones who are foolish enough to think we can bury our heads in the sand as a nation, or the only ones who have blatant ideological blind-spots, as the Pinochet worship shows.
I wouldn't go that far, I live in Cali and have seen a lot of people here who are tried of cleaning up europes messes, their just not quite as there as his neck of the woods.
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from rural minnesota here. most people who care drank the blue kool-aid. most of the right wingers and uninitiated think putin is an asshole but it really isn't something to spend american blood and treasure to fix. they are sick of america ignoring domestic issues to throw money and lives on foreign adventures.
Of course Bacle everyone lives in a bubble except you, I'm just surrounded by cryptofascists. It's not that people hate being the world police and are sick and tired of seeing their kids have their futures stolen and their lives destroyed and their bodies broken and crippled to save people who can save themselves and see us as the same way an OnlyFans model sees a simp.
Or perhaps it's you know, you're environs don't in any way reflect the rest of the country?
I live in one of the most "diverse" cities around and everyone says "fuck the Ukraine-Russia conflict" and then you've got two posters from widely disparate areas saying similar.
I'm sure we all live in bubbles I guess?
Face it- War to defend one shithole that traffics children to defend it against another shithole that traffics drugs just isn't as popular as it used to be and wanting to send billions to aid those people will likely cost Trump the election more than anything else.
Edit- Pinochet worship, when all I said was "ehh
he wasn't That bad, but Chile shit the bed in a big way to screw up to where that was necessary"
Bacle you aren't reading more than half my posts, you're tilting at a windill.
Yeah I would imagine that if well to do immigrants are fed up then we're just repeating stuff working class and rural America has been saying for well over a decade at this point.
Like if we have heart burn then there's a huge swath of America that's been puking its guts out every other meal for a loonnngggg fucking time.
Which really tells you about perspective and self awareness I guess.
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The fact you claim Zelensky is a child trafficker and that many normies hate him for this, gets big old X of Doubt from me, and frankly undermines everything else you claim to think the US public knows/feels about the Russian invasion of Ukraine or about US politics in general.
In fact you are the only person I've ever seen claim such about Zelensky.
Also, I am someone living in a very blue, formerly purple area, who has to live and see what is going on with the situation in Ukraine from how the center and Left mostly view things, and I can tell you I have not seen or heard one person complain about helping Ukraine, mostly just throw hate and shade on Russia for their war crimes and/or incompetence.
I mean really, outside this forum, I haven't seen any real sign that public support for Ukraine is at all wavering or in jeopardy, or that most people on the ground think Zelensky is just as bad as Putin or a child trafficker.
And most people tie inflation to energy policies and the linger effects of the lockdowns, not support for Ukraine.
Then find better sources, Zelensky is a puppet of a bunch of kiddy fuckers and gangsters same as Putin. Zelensky himself is a fucking strawman of the Podestas and was fairly close to Epstein's old outfit to say nothing of the people in his administration and their ties to the same guy.
There's no doubt, you just live in an area psyopped to believing Americans need to die so that a bunch of degenerates in Brussels and rapists in DC can get rich off our corpses.
We are the majority Bacle..And we're tired of foreign adventurism and resent the old world for its weakness.
You live in a cesspool amidst an ocean of red, of people who hate the elites, revile the coast and want America to be prosperous again even if it means betraying our allies and going full isolationist.
We only care about our families and our neighborhoods and our culture.
The rest is noise.
Who cares, you think pancaking a bunch of barbarians who still shit in igloos in half their country is going to restore American morale when it'll probably just result in all the diabetic bean counters and trannies in the upper ranks getting medals while our bases in Europe get blitzed because all those traitors in Pentagon are too busy fucking dogs and trafficking our military secrets and hardware to China to keep them alert.
Russia and the Ukraine are bad.
all of Europe is bad.
Everyone not us is a rival, a resource or an enemy. Either way none of them matter.
The end.
So you cannot even provide sources for the claim about Zelensky, why am I not surprised.
See, you have the mono-focus on trying to pretend the Monroe Doctrine and the Western Hemisphere are all that matter to our daily lives, that nothing that happens outside the America's matters to us (or should matter to us), and that Ukraine is just as bad thus deserves to get invaded.
Your sort of mindset won't do anything but make it easier for Biden and the Dems to smear and attack the GOP/Trump base as Russian stooges, and frankly at this point some of the GOP/Trump base would deserve it.
he is correct about the american people becoming more isolationist though.
The 20 years spent in the sandbox pretty much soured peoples opinions against adventures in the outside world.
Again, conflating aiding Ukraine with the ME clusterfucks is ignoring the realities on the ground. People can be tired of fucking around in the ME while also still supporting aiding Ukraine in defending itself and reclaiming it's 1991 borders.
Isolationism doesn't work anymore, as much as even I would like to not need to worry about affairs outside US borders.
You want the US to go isolationist again, then hope that the US gets Mars all to itself somehow, because lightlag and month long space journeys are about the only way to 'disconnect' from the global economy.
Reshoring jobs and such helps, but the fact is the US doesn't have all the tech, patents, or resources to just ignore the rest of the world and think we can get by just strong arming the rest of the America's.