Alternate History Vivat Stilicho!

ATP

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China united - they could do whatever they like now - which could mean war with any neighbpur,but also sending fleets to far away countries.
In OTL Ming dynasty sailed to Africa,and maybe even Americas and Australia - you could made them sail there for real.

Muslims here could conqer Armenia,maybe even Anatolia - but i think,that Constantinopole is safe.
Africans - the longer they fight,the better chance for muslims to conqer them.

I think,that old ERE woud lost most of territories,Africa would lost some,and then we would have united Rome against muslims again.
Unless...Africans decide to keep their state independent.There is such possibility.

America - i think,that expect Mayans there already were other city-states there,for example Tolteks.It is matter of time till somebody find them.
I bet for Stilitchians - no matter how much land they would lost,they would still want compensate for it,and Carribeans are easy to get.
Especially,that greeks probably knew about them - turkish admiral Piri Reis wrote,that Columbus knew where to sail thanks to ancient maps.

And Columbus really sailed as if he knew where Carribeans would be.....

Another possible explorers - fishermans from Java and other islands there knew about Australia from at least 18th century,now some ruler who get defeated there could sail there to create new Kingdom.

P.S Merry Christmas !
 

PsihoKekec

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And to surprise of no one but Skleroi leadership, the muslims took advantage of their reach for the crown big time.

Medieval battle in Kobarid, that's a brutal thing to consider, the terrain is even more restrictive than in Vipava valley (Frigidus), but at least no chance of sudden orcanic winds. Both sides would have to fight head on slugfest, with no chance of manoeuvring, the main position of the longbowmen would probably be at Sv. Anton (this is where Italian ossuary is today) and Lesica, while on the other side of the valley on the at the lower slopes of Breznik, puting the Africans into crossfire, forcing them to try and clear them out before they could continue pushing up the valley. I reckon significant part of the Western Roman force that was fighting in the valley was pushed towards Nadiža valley when pushed out of Kobarid itself, instead of trying to squeeze in the narrows between Lesica and Anton.
I presume Western Romans entered the valley from Vršič pass? Quite an achievement moving an entire army over it in such short time.

Looks like this Battle of Caporetto was as much of a victory as the real Caporetto.

Wouldn't say that, here it was a bloody stalemate with Africans getting a bit worse of it and the retreating in good order, while in 1917 it was a decisive breakthrough, causing collapse of entire frontline, chaotic retreat and allies having to bail Italians out with forces they badly needed at Western front.
 
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gral

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Wouldn't say that, here it was a bloody stalemate with Africans getting a bit worse of it and the retreating in good order, while in 1917 it was a decisive breakthrough, causing collapse of entire frontline, chaotic retreat and allies having to bail Italians out with forces they badly needed at Western front.
D'oh! Typo. I meant it wasn't as much of a victory.
 

ATP

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And to surprise of no one but Skleroi leadership, the muslims took advantage of their reach for the crown big time.

Medieval battle in Kobarid, that's a brutal thing to consider, the terrain is even more restrictive than in Vipava valley (Frigidus), but at least no chance of sudden orcanic winds. Both sides would have to fight head on slugfest, with no chance of manoeuvring, the main position of the longbowmen would probably be at Sv. Anton (this is where Italian ossuary is today) and on the other side of the valley on the at the lower slopes of Breznik, puting the Africans into crossfire, forcing them to try and clear them out before they could continue pushing up the valley.
I presume Western Romans entered the valley from Vršič pass? Quite an achievement moving an entire army over it in such short time.



Wouldn't say that, here it was a bloody stalemate with Africans getting a bit worse of it and the retreating in good order, while in 1917 it was a decisive breakthrough, causing collapse of entire frontline, chaotic retreat and allies having to bail Italians out with forces they badly needed at Western front.
True,but Italians were commanded by idiot,when Africans here have good leader,who do not keep wasting his troops on futile attacks.
 

shangrila

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Hmm, are the Stilichians taking up the tradition of alternating Eastern and Western names for their children? Not that there was ever an Eastern Emperor named Ptolemy, but that certainly isn't a latin derived name.

The map giving the same color to the Stilichians and Britain is pretty misleading. Still, the Stilichian position is decent, defensible both in Italy and Africa as long as the Greeks are too pressured to interfere. And centuries of peace (especially no Gothic War) in Italy, Hispania, and Africa, all should have immense population and wealth. The Pendragons might have problems paying their troops if the situation lasts a few years and the existing treasury starts running out.

And this timeline probably shouldn't divert effort to it, but alternate timeline Christian heresies could be an entire project of its own. The Heptarchic church structure for an united (until now) Empire over which the Emperor has influence but not direct control is completely unlike the historical situation in either East or West. One could posit a much more pluralistic and legitimate church would deter heresies, and the prolonged peace ward off all the apocalyptic cults but I'm sure it would be much more complicated than that. Then there's all the Eastern Christians; Egypt was historically majority Christian until the persecutions of the Mamlukes, which likely hasn't changed, but the Imperial Church might be more resistant to fading with a still strong Roman Empire able to force guarantees to them in treaties. Would any of the Oriental churches move closer to Imperials once the memory of oppression by them fade while both are now oppressed by Muslims? And of course there are the converted slaves in southern Iraq, who might theoretically be Imperial, but slave religions are likely to develop quite differently.
 

ATP

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Hmm, are the Stilichians taking up the tradition of alternating Eastern and Western names for their children? Not that there was ever an Eastern Emperor named Ptolemy, but that certainly isn't a latin derived name.

The map giving the same color to the Stilichians and Britain is pretty misleading. Still, the Stilichian position is decent, defensible both in Italy and Africa as long as the Greeks are too pressured to interfere. And centuries of peace (especially no Gothic War) in Italy, Hispania, and Africa, all should have immense population and wealth. The Pendragons might have problems paying their troops if the situation lasts a few years and the existing treasury starts running out.

And this timeline probably shouldn't divert effort to it, but alternate timeline Christian heresies could be an entire project of its own. The Heptarchic church structure for an united (until now) Empire over which the Emperor has influence but not direct control is completely unlike the historical situation in either East or West. One could posit a much more pluralistic and legitimate church would deter heresies, and the prolonged peace ward off all the apocalyptic cults but I'm sure it would be much more complicated than that. Then there's all the Eastern Christians; Egypt was historically majority Christian until the persecutions of the Mamlukes, which likely hasn't changed, but the Imperial Church might be more resistant to fading with a still strong Roman Empire able to force guarantees to them in treaties. Would any of the Oriental churches move closer to Imperials once the memory of oppression by them fade while both are now oppressed by Muslims? And of course there are the converted slaves in southern Iraq, who might theoretically be Imperial, but slave religions are likely to develop quite differently.
I think,that it depend of what Khazars would do.If they are smart they would attack muslims,becouse they are bigger treat now.
But,if they are dump,invasion of roman territories made Stilichian situation better here.


About religion - Egypt Kopts were heretics,that is why they supported muslims against ERE in OTL.
 

ATP

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I just finished reading "Cywilizacja Słowian"/Cyvilization of slavs/ by Kamil Janicki - interesting book for those who read polish -
He mentioned another book,"Escape from Rome" by W.Scheidel - according to author,fall of Rome was actually good thing which created european states and later nations,and made possible technological revolution and science.

When China,which remained united,or divided but still wanting to unite China,eventually fall to notching.
@Circle of Willis Europe here could meet the same fate,unles Rome fall for good,at least in Europe.Stilitchians in Africa could hold their land and titles.

Another argument against Rome - after its fall,people become averagely taller/Italy-3cm,England-10cm/ which mean,that they lived in better conditions.


So,for both population and science sake,it is better if Rome here fall,too.
 

shangrila

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Those are really old arguments that are pretty discredited nowadays. People becoming taller, for example, is straight forwardly from the collapse of large urban centers. Cities were horrifically unhealthy before the early modern era, and all of them getting sacked by barbarians will increase the average for the rural survivors.

What exactly allowed the scientific revolution in Europe is still hotly debated nowadays, but for sure China was technologically ahead in every field except firearms until the 18th Century, and we've discussed why that firearms exception probably happened. A lot of Chinese historians blame the Chinese decline on the Qing for being barbarians that suppressed proto-industries they couldn't understand or control.

The Columbian exchange was definitely a big part of the scientific, agricultural, and industrial revolutions, and that's likely to be moved ahead in this timeline. There are also historians that argue a lot of geographical determinism, like numerous fast flowing streams near flocks of sheep for driving industrial weaving, which wouldn't change. Renaissance era urban guilds are a popular topic nowadays, and this timeline explicitly has them becoming a thing.
 

shangrila

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Just listened to a podcast about the fascinating Islamic State of Fraxinetum/Farakhsha, which I had never heard of before. A bunch of mujahadeen from Al Andalus conquered most of Provence from the 880s to the 970s, ruling from the old Roman fortress of Fraxinetum. They were primarily slave raiders along the Rhone river and its tributaries as far as Swabia, and into Northern Italy. Several Christian attempts to drive them out failed due to Fraxinetum's defensibility and Christian infighting, though the Muslims literally only numbered 12 at the beginning and were only in the hundreds the first time Christians tried to push them out.

Eventually, they were destroyed by a proto-Crusade organized by the Church from a coalition of Frankish nobles after the capture of a well respected Abbot of Cluny. Bishop Odo, who later became Pope Urban II, was a prior at Cluny shortly after this period, and that may have influenced his calling of the First Crusade.

Now, obviously Muslims in Provence in this timeline would be pretty crazy, but it strikes me that Gaiseric's son should be sailing to join his father, not marching. Hell, like the mujahadeen, he should take Fraxinetum, contest control of the western passes into Northern Italy and be able to raid up the Rhone. The navigable tributaries of the Rhone get to well in the Franche-Comte, within 300 km of Trier itself.
 
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Spring and Autumn around the Great Waters

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Capital: Dakaruniku.

Religion: 'Dakarubiinihuúnu' – the 'Great Mystery', so named after the Mississippians' pantheistic interpretation of the concept of an omnipresent 'Great Spirit' common to the mythologies of the Wildermen of Aloysiana's eastern woodlands.

Language: 'Aričiwin', the 'straight speech' or 'straight way of talking', which is what the Mississippians of Dakaruniku call their own tongue (now also the lingua franca of their empire). At this point in time it is only one of the many languages in the Mississippian family, for each previously independent city-state and chiefdom in the riverlands has most certainly developed their own different dialects & languages before being brought under Dakaruniku's rule – just as Latin was originally spoken only in Latium and the Italic language family was full of now-extinct non-Latin languages such as Umbrian, Oscan and Venetic. Their Briton neighbors refer to both Aričiwin and the Mississippian languages as a whole with the term 'Míssissépené'.

Nations, and continents, can change like the seasons – and so as surely as the weather warms, the Sun shines more brightly and the world's volcanoes return to slumber, the fortunes of the budding nations of the Ultimate West have begun to mature and wax. The first Europeans came to a New World on the other side of the Atlantic from their homeland nearly four centuries ago, and though they are still rather few compared to the numbers which will surely swarm the shores of this 'Ultimate West' centuries into the future, in that time they have brought about great change already. Whether they came seeking fortune on virgin soil where no greater lord or king can command them or sanctuary where they can practice their specific religious doctrines without fear of suppression from the authorities above, those early arrivals found and almost immediately disrupted the indigenous tribes living amid the oft-snow-covered woodlands of the western continent – most of whom had been isolated Stone Age hunter-gatherers, and thus were not only thousands of years behind the newcomers technologically but had no immunity to even the most basic diseases brought over by the newcomers. Dubbed 'Wildermen' by the Europeans, and their still-small numbers devastated by epidemics, few among these tribes seemed like they could pose a match to the newcomers, that is until the latter moved further inland.

Along the banks of the mighty Mississippi and its numerous tributaries, those 'Wildermen' living around the southernmost fringe of the Europeans' maps of the New World as of 900 had built increasingly vast and prosperous towns centered around the earthen mounds upon which they have raised up palaces & temples. Sustained by the river-fed farms where they grow crops such as corn and beans, sufficiently skilled to work copper at least, and increasingly interconnected with one another thanks to river-borne trade, their societies and mode of living also grew more sophisticated and stratified over time – gone are the scattered bands of closely related clans who once roamed the land in search of berries and deer, replaced entirely by permanently settled communities with clearly defined chieftains, warrior aristocracies and priestly classes capable of producing artisan goods on a large scale. Among these cities none is greater than Dakaruniku, the aptly named 'Grand Mound' situated near the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers, whose populace critically survived their brush with the first disease outbreaks brought on by their interaction with the envoys of the Pelagian Pilgrims.

From this strategic position the people of that city have built up a formidable empire out of the bones of their neighbors, subjugating numerous lesser Mississippian cities with both unbridled ferocity and great cunning, and in more recent years they have even toppled their most formidable Wilderman adversary to date in the Three Fires Council which ruled the lands north of them. The source of the Mississippi itself has been discovered and claimed (albeit only nominally due to its remoteness) by the men of Dakaruniku, through their coercion of the Three Fires tribes who knew of it, and now they seek to find its mouth also. To accomplish all this, they had many weapons to call upon: an outsized (and still growing!) manpower pool fed and watered by their supremely fertile core territory, great deposits of minerals with which to forge equipment to arm said manpower with, but perhaps more importantly they have been blessed with paramount chieftains who possess the ambition, ruthlessness and cunning expected of empire-builders. Of these traits the third is arguably the most vital, for it was by wit and careful planning that the Dakarunikuans first learned the secret of iron-forging from the Britons who have settled further north still beyond the Three Fires lands, and then begun to organize their warriors into a true army of soldiers capable of fighting in massed formations well beyond anything their neighbors could manage.

The new 'Mississippian Empire' (Miss.: Nahun'ačituúʾ - 'Unity-Of-All' – or less presumptuously, Nahun'ánu Misipisáhniš, 'Unity of the Tribes of the Great Rivers') which has evolved out of Dakaruniku's conquests is not the only entity of its kind in the lands which most Europeans have come to call 'Aloysiana' and which they themselves know as Turtle Island, of course. Among others, far to the southwest the warming climate and increasing rainfall produced food surpluses among maize-growing tribes, who consequently have increasingly settled down and carved their own great towns into the canyons of their homeland[1]; further still to the south, in the jungles of Mesoamerica the Maya are amassing alliances and sending armies which still dwarf those of the Mississippians against one another even as neighbors to their west, such as Teotihuacan, rise and fall in the earliest pages of the history of the Nahua – soon to culminate in the imminent rise of the Tōltēkah or 'Toltecs' from the rapidly strengthening city of Tollan; and far beyond them, indeed arguably beyond the bounds of Aloysiana itself, the Chimú are emerging as a distinct nation in valleys beneath the world's longest mountain range. But these peoples and their struggles are still a world away from both the Mississippians and Europeans, pagan and Christian alike, who have come and will continue to come onto the shores of Aloysiana. To the Old World of the Romans and the first settlers of this New one alike, the Mississippians are the only true empire among the Wildermen, or at least the only one that carries any relevance to their interests.

For now they have been friendly to said Europeans, if for no reason other than rational self-interest. Indeed the Mississippians have so far actually been quite reliable allies for the Pelagian Britons of Annún, and helped carve up the Three Fires territories with them. But their time of shared interests is coming to an end with the ninth century, and with it any pretense of friendship, now that they are neighbors and have learned nearly all that they care to learn from the Britons. For now they still have the full course of the Mississippi to chart down to its mouth, and softer targets in the remaining Wildermen around them to subdue, yet the Mississippians have not forgotten that the Europeans brought not just strange mounts and the secret of iron-making but also plague with them: they were just fortunate that the first bouts of that invisible killer left more of their people alive than dead, and that that which did not kill them made them stronger, which is not something many of the neighbors they crushed can say. The Chiefs of All Chiefs in Dakaruniku intend for the next centuries to be springtime for their Mississippian Empire, but alas their march also heralds a more bitter autumn and winter for all who stand in their way than they have ever known before, be they Wilderman or European from across the sea.

In many regards the Mississippians are thousands of years behind the European newcomers to the western continent, and yet they have spurned despair at this creeping realization in favor of striving mightily to catch up to the best of their ability; governance is no exception to this rule. As of the year which Christian Europeans recognize as 900 AD, Haraánuʾhuunawiísuʾ has just finalized the transformation of Dakaruniku from one among many city-states into the capital of a budding Mississippian Empire, and in so doing became the first of the Dakarunikuan chiefly lineage to claim the mantle of Šaánu-šaánuraan – 'chief of all chiefs', or more plainly, the Mississippian Emperor, who claims to rule not just the Mississippian riverlands but also the entirety of the Ultimate West. Theoretically he is the supreme despot of the riverlands, chosen by the gods out of all his brothers as proven by the empire's succession 'law' requiring him to kill all said fraternal rivals in a bloody battle royale upon their father's death, and to whom all Mississippians naturally owe their allegiance. Besides presiding over major religious festivals and leading the army into battle, the Chief-of-Chiefs also bears the important responsibility of collecting & redistributing goods for the good of Dakaruniku at his palace, thereby simultaneously trying to ensure that the city's resources are used as effectively as possible and making a show of 'royal generosity' to his subjects. When he dies, he is entombed beneath the imperial burial mound of Dakaruniku in the style of his ancestors – on a bed of thousands of shell beads arranged in the shape of a soaring falcon, surrounded by the lesser tombs of his most faithful servants and elaborate grave treasures[2].

In practice, no man rules alone, no matter his pretensions. Lacking a Roman-style bureaucracy through whom he can exert the authority he claims, the Šaánu-šaánuraan must instead rely wholly on a patchwork of vassal chiefs (Miss.: Šaánu) to govern everywhere he cannot be physically present himself, such that the Mississippian Empire cannot be described as a centralized autocracy like the Dominate-era Roman Empire or even the federation of kingdoms with the powers of the Emperor and his vassals hanging in an at-times precarious balance as it became under the Aloysians, but a confederation of un-equal cities led by and bound to Dakaruniku more akin to the early Republic. Indeed, the most learned sages among the Britons of Annún describe the Mississippian Empire as a crude and despotic mockery of that entity, accidentally forged in its image by the 'savage' hands of the Wildermen despite them obviously having no knowledge of Rome whatsoever; a better comparison which they have not made, however, might be to the Mycenaean Greek kingdoms which Agamemnon led against the Trojans. Their more autocratic mode of governance and palace economy contrasts sharply with the more egalitarian structure of the Mississippians' neighbors such as the fallen Three Fires Council, and in its imperial scope it also contrasts with the much more localized clan/tribal structure of more primitive tribes like those vassalized by the Britons of the New World.

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Haraánuʾhuunawiísuʾ, the first Šaánu-šaánuraan or Mississippian Emperor, summons his subjects to hear out a new announcement from his lips

Traditionally, each Mississippian city-state would claim to have been founded by one of the divinities revered by their people, and their šaánu would naturally claim membership in a dynasty descended from this local god – hence the role carries with it sacral responsibilities as, if not a chief priest, then at least a prominent fixture during religious ceremonies & sacrifices in addition to secular ones in criminal judgments and military leadership, not unlike the old Germanic kings or even the original Roman kings. A šaánu is believed to represent all of his subjects, so when one bends the knee to the Šaánu-šaánuraan, his people must follow: in return said Šaánu-šaánuraan leaves him to govern his kingdom more or less as he sees fit, so long as he pays tribute regularly and marches with the latter when called upon. In addition to their traditional religious, martial and judicial duties the Chiefs all have the same economic responsibility for their city that their overlord has for Dakaruniku, with the added caveat of having to set aside a portion of the goods offered up to them by their subjects as a sort of feudal due to said overlord; the Šaánu-šaánuraan's power is not so absolute that he can direct the local economies of his vassals as he can Dakaruniku itself.

A newer class of šaánu called the kaadi, or 'governor' (Miss. pl.: kaadiraan), created by the Dakarunikuans presents a complication to this traditional conception of chiefdom/kingship. As Dakaruniku expanded, it inevitably wiped out certain rival dynasties for refusing to surrender well past the point where they had been left with no other choice by events on the battlefield, and also founded new mound-cities as colonies for veteran warriors and their families (whether they be Dakarunikuan in origin, or slaves taken from the enemy) – in some cases these colonies were built into defeated enemy cities which had been sacked and razed by the conquering Dakarunikuans, and in other cases they were entirely new settlements. In any case their governors cannot claim any special lineage and, at least originally, were considered by both their rulers and the ruled to essentially be satraps rather than local petty-kings like the older class of 'real' šaánu – men who would have been nothing if not for Dakaruniku, ruling at the pleasure of the Chief-of-Chiefs. In this manner Dakaruniku has buttressed its rule over the Mississippian Empire by the colonies it has founded to both serve as outposts of its authority and a means of relieving population pressures at home, a fine arrangement so long as said colonies don't grow too big for their breeches...

While their responsibilities include delivering justice to their citizens and organizing the colony's army, these 'lesser' chiefs are appointed for life by said Emperor (who theoretically also has the authority to depose them for any reason). They can certainly recommend that their liege appoint one of their children to succeed them upon their death, but of course this is not guaranteed and even if he agrees, the Emperor can choose to change his mind after the original chief dies anyway. But in time, this state of affairs is likely to change as the Dakarunikuans' roots grow deeper into the soil they've been assigned to. Some of the governors appointed to govern conquered cities have already married into the local ruling dynasty which they displaced to build legitimacy in the eyes of their autochthonous subjects, and so develop pretensions to ruling as hereditary lords like their maternal ancestors. Even those who have not done this, or rule entirely Dakarunikuan-built colony towns, are not immune to the tendency of local governors to desire autonomy from the central pole of power which raised them up in the first place and to entrench their own kin & associates in power over their fiefdom for as long as possible (ideally perpetually). In time, the 'old' and 'new' šaánuraan might find common cause against Dakaruniku's dictates – managing such things will be an important test for future Mississippian Emperors, one which will separate the statesmen capable of actually ruling an empire from the brutes who have a strong spear-arm but nothing else.

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The palatial mound of a lesser Mississippian chief or šaánu

The šaánuraan, for their part, do not rule alone either. Chiefs & governors will typically assemble a panel of local notables to assist them in administration, and through whom they will try to get the best picture possible of their subjects' needs and demands so that they can respond accordingly: warriors to keep the peace and enforce their will, priests – who, being responsible for timekeeping and lore-keeping, are uniquely suited among Mississippians to keeping records and most other bureaucratic duties – and headmen elected (via simple voice-vote, once all the free men have gathered at their appointed meeting place) by the districts of their cities and each of the nearby hamlets beyond their palisade, who represent not just their constituents but also the fading remnant of an earlier time when the Mississippian peoples still elected their leaders. This sort of local assembly is present in Dakaruniku itself, though being a strictly municipal body, its authority is constrained both by the will of the Šaánu-šaánuraan and the walls of the Mississippian capital.

Perhaps the most striking contrast which distinguishes Mississippian society from those of the neighboring Wildermen is their embrace firstly of urban life and secondly of social stratification, both of which arguably go hand-in-hand. As has been previously described, the Mississippian peoples typically live in cities (Miss. singl.: idúnuʾ, pl.: idúnuʾraan) built around mounds and protected with palisades (or, more recently since Dakaruniku cracked the secret of brick-making, stouter defensive walls), or else in villages (also built around a single or a few mounds where the headman, his highest ranking servants and the town priests live) surrounding and bound to the greater cities. The great earthen mounds are both the physical and societal centers of these cities, and it is upon them that the Mississippians have built their palaces & temples. In a further Dakarunikuan innovation, a secondary wall increasingly surrounds the elite complexes on these mounds, serving as a final defense during a siege or riots by the masses living down below. Mississippian urban planning predating the rise of Dakaruniku dictates that the proximity of one's living quarters to the mound should be further determined by social class – warriors and palace servants are allowed to build their homes closest to the mound, then artisans, merchants and finally those free farmers wealthy enough to get to live behind the main city walls rather than having to reside in the outside villages further surrounded by slaves' hovels.

As outlined previously, the chief or šaánu manifests his authority and commands the obedience of his subjects through not just the will of the gods & spirits, but also by turning their palace into the center of their city's economy. After first satisfying their immediate needs, his subjects must bring everything that they have produced – pottery, crops, clothing, tools, etc. – to his palace on the summit of the city's highest and grandest mound, so that he might redistribute it back to whoever needs this-or-that the most. Surplus crops are stored in the royal granaries, from where it is apportioned to starving citizens in a show of royal charity or brought out en masse to alleviate the entire city's hunger during times of famine; replacement tools are issued to the craftsmen and farmers on an as-needed basis; and so on, so forth. The šaánu also has the authority to draft any number of his adult citizens (the age of adulthood among Mississippians usually being set in the 12-14 range) to perform unpaid labor for up to 90 days at a time: this corvée duty, called tšwanu, is mandated for the grandest construction projects such as building new dams and palaces or repairing the city wall, and is traditionally performed by selected groups for 90-day shifts rather than involving every able-bodied man in the city all at once.

Certain manufacturing industries (such as they are), such as the millers who can grind corn down into fine cornmeal or jewelers who can fashion high-quality products out of the copper and raw jewels brought to the palace, are also monopolized and patronized by the chief. He keeps the best of their work, gives the rest to his close followers and then the people in general as gifts (for instance, higher-quality cornbread which is given out weekly, or special copper jewelry issued as a reward for valor on the battlefield), and rewards them with better housing and prioritization for services such as medical treatment by the priests in return. Of course, people who offend the chief or break his laws can expect (assuming they haven't been imprisoned/executed) to receive smaller portions from his stores and few to no gifts at all as punishment, as can their families – a strong motivator to observe his rules at all times. So long as a chief is perceived as a fair & generous giver of goods who does not deprive his subjects of anything they require (unless they've done something to deserve it), he can expect to maintain the support of the haves & have-nots among his people alike and should only have to worry about external threats to his rule.

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Laborers drafted under tšwanu build a wattle-and-daub house for a newly hired royal miller in the shadow of Dakaruniku's great palace mound

Subordinate only to the chief occupying the physical and social summit of Mississippian life are its hereditary priesthood, the kunaʾwaarudiíʾraan or 'ones closest to the gods'. Where the Anishinaabe and Algonquian peoples living around the Great Lakes – of whom the greatest force still independent of Mississippian overlordship are their eastern neighbors, the Šaawanooki[3] – generally conceive of the Great Spirit or Great Mystery (their 'Gitche Manitou' or 'Gichi-ojichaag', Gigé-Ogíté to the Britons) as a creator god, the Mississippian interpretation has more in common with that of the so-called Irnokué[4] presently dwelling in and north of the great mountains to the east who call it the orenda, as well as the Oyáte tribes of the remote northern forests & prairies[5] who hail it as Wakȟáŋ Tȟáŋka. The Mississippians see the Great Mystery or Dakarubiinihuúnu as less of an individual deity and more like an omnipresent and immanent cosmic force which has always existed, an energy which animates and is present in all nature – even storms and plagues are driven by Dakarubiinihuúnu, and people's souls are shed from it at birth & return to it upon their death. This cosmic force is beyond human understanding, hence why they call it the Great Mystery, save that of the priests who alone can see and commune with it; as far as the European understanding of Wilderman religion goes, Briton priests liken this Great Mystery to the Neoplatonic concept of 'the One'. Typically the eldest son and daughter of a priestly family are required to take up their parents' mantle, while the younger children are free to walk their own path, and unlike all the other social classes a Mississippian priest (of either sex) can only ever marry a fellow priest or priestess; if their marriage proves unfruitful, the couple can adopt children (from any class if need be, though priestly orphans are preferred) to carry on their holy work.

To the Mississippian people, everything proceeds from and is driven by Dakarubiinihuúnu, even those entities which they acknowledge as gods and demons. The 'Middle World' that all men live on too emanated from the Great Mystery, borne on the back of its 'firstborn' the Great Turtle who keeps it afloat amid the chaos of the watery black Underworld but well beneath the Overworld where spirits, unbound by physical form, freely dance and make merry amid the clouds. Of said supernatural entities, the greatest are:
  • Dakarugayah the Great Turtle and oldest of the gods, He-Who-Bears-The-World-On-His-Back, the reason why the Mississippians call the world (as many of their Wilderman neighbors also do) 'Turtle Island' or Gayahawaákat;
  • Dii'nataasabaah or the 'Heaven-Sent Woman'[6], who fell from the sky and landed on the Great Turtle's back where she then gave birth to the human race, now a great mother goddess that the Mississippians call upon to bless newlyweds & guarantee the safe delivery of children;
  • Šasakuú, the solar god whose rays warm the earth and scorch the wicked;
  • Táwitinánaraan or the 'Three Sisters', respectively Neéšah ('Sister Corn'), Paakahíšah ('Sister Squash') and Atikátišah ('Sister Bean') who gave humanity the staple crops of Mississippian civilization;
  • Awihnaanišíšuʾhukoósu or the 'First Brave', the god of war who taught men how to fashion spears and axes from flint, bone and ultimately metal. He is revered under different names such as 'Red Horn' or 'He-Who-Wears-Human-Faces-For-Earrings' by the Mississippians' neighbors, and with his sons he wages war against evil spirits for the benefit of mankind;
  • Waarúxtiʾraan or the 'Thunderers', thunderbirds who battle the demons of the underworld and punish the unjust, likened by British Pelagians to the Christian concept of angels;
  • And Misidaŋka the 'Underwater Panther', most powerful of said underworld demons, often associated with the Three Fires tribes and Algonquians who opposed Mississippian expansion northward (and consequently identified with the Devil by said Mississippians' British allies).
Mississippian priests lead their communities in honoring these gods with ritual dances, loud prayers and prostrations, and sacrifices – most of the time these are simply offerings of food or votive treasures, but at other times the priest will sacrifice animals, slaves and prisoners-of-war at their altar, especially to please more violent deities like the First Brave[7].

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Heaven-Sent Woman on the back of the Great Turtle, shortly before giving birth to the ancestors of the human race

Aside from appeasing the Great Mystery and their many other gods so that they will continue to bestow blessings upon the Mississippians, the priestly class is also responsible for hearing out and executing their will in more mundane matters, a duty which invariably demonstrates more worldly reasons as to why Mississippian society should revere them so greatly. For example, the need to keep track of when to honor this-or-that god means priests have by necessity become the Empire's primary timekeepers and mathematicians, which also helps greatly in tracking the seasons and informing the farmers when it is the best time to plant or harvest crops: without writing, they use elaborate belts of corded beads which come in many colors, shapes & sizes for the purpose of record-keeping and as calendars instead. Devotion to the Heaven-Sent Woman requires priestesses to also double as their town's midwives, while the meticulous search for signs of the Great Mystery in nature and in the blood, bones & entrails of men and beasts alike has also made priests into the best herbalists and surgeons any Mississippian village or city can hope to have, and a town's priests are also responsible for the maintenance of its činihsísuʾ or sweat lodge (a permanent structure built of mud-bricks, quite unlike the impermanent huts of the surrounding Wildermen). Their knowledge of how to properly bury the dead so that their soul can rejoin the Great Mystery and find eternal peace conveniently also limits the risk of a disease outbreak due to improper disposal of corpses. The respect they command across Mississippian society has further made royal priests into most chiefs' first choice for an envoy and so on, so forth.

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A kunaʾwaarudií ('man close to the gods', or a male Mississippian priest in other words) in headdress & blessed amulet, carrying the head of a sacrifice in one hand and a ceremonial mace in the other

The warrior elite (Miss.: hukoósuʾraan, 'braves') constitute the other significant upper class in Mississippian society. These men are professional fighters who have voluntarily left behind peaceful professions to dedicate their lives to training and fighting with the bow, spear and ax – the core weapons of Mississippian warfare – and their sons are expected to follow in their footsteps; while peasants can be conscripted to support them in an emergency, typically the Mississippians would prefer to just send warbands comprised of these Braves (who, after all, are the best-versed in combat among any given city's population) to fight their wars for them. Thus they constitute an aristocratic military caste with the responsibility of defending their city and enforcing their chief's justice, and in fact used to be the only warriors in any given Mississippian city, although this is beginning to change and that change is another reason as to why Dakaruniku was able to overwhelm its many enemies (as will be elaborated upon further below). The Braves typically live on urban mounds close to the chief or governor who leads them, instead of owning and living on estates in the countryside, and can expect to receive their equipment (made to the finest possible quality that the local smiths can forge) and rations (also of fine quality, ex. cornbread rather than bags of raw corn kernels) from him instead of having to collect it as tribute from the masses themselves: it is considered only right and just that the protectors of the people, who by the strength of their spear-arms allow said people to go about their lives in peace, also benefit most greatly from their labor.

Merchants are the primary designated travelers of any given Mississippian city's population, the rest of whom generally do not tend to travel far from the city boundaries or for long periods of time if at all (save of course the Braves during wartime). When peace and the weather permit it, Chiefs will give them goods for trade and requirements for what they must bring back with them; a merchant is entitled to keep anything he manages to buy, or acquire in any other fashion, which is not on the chief's list, and thus will often stop many times along his trade route to buy whatever interests him rather than just beelining for his destination and then immediately coming back. These excess goods can then be traded for additional profit with his fellow citizens back home, if he so chooses (few can blame him if he decides to keep a copper mirror for his wife or a bejeweled statuette with which to decorate his home). Traditionally trade was done between Mississippian cities, but the Europeans' arrival on the scene has given Dakaruniku and the city-states under its authority a new trade partner with exotic new goods in more recent years. The rivers are the Mississippians' primary transportation arteries and a merchant will almost always travel up or down these waters in a canoe rather than by land if he has a choice in the matter; they have dirt roads in the cities and to link said cities to their river-ports, but not more beyond that, not even in Dakaruniku's case. To carry their goods on/off boats and overland alike, a merchant will also travel with hounds, slaves and/or free servants dragging a travois (Miss.: hahnánahn) with them.

As for the artisans, city neighborhoods (Miss.: čituu'sha) are organized around labor – that is to say, the pottery-makers all live in one district assigned to them by the chief, the iron-workers in another, and so on. Furthermore Mississippian commoners tend to pass their skills down from generation to generation, and to marry within their profession: it is not expressly forbidden that, for example, a potter marries a weaver's daughter, but it would be considered unusual and the weavers might complain to the chief that the potters are taking one of 'theirs', for which compensation might be needed in the form of an especially large bride price that greatly outweighs the dowry. The result is that each čituu'sha becomes more than just a geographic district or guild, in essence evolving into a specialized and self-sustaining community & caste of workers. The chief's role in this arrangement, besides adjudicating disputes between each čituu'sha, is to coordinate and transfer resources between all the čituu'sharaan (via the palace economy) so that everyone gets what they need but cannot produce themselves – for example, that the metal-workers' tools reaches the weavers, and that the clothes made by the weavers reach the metal-workers.

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Diorama of a Dakarunikuan potter, lacking the wheel used by craftsmen elsewhere around the world, using shells to smoothen & temper a new clay pot

The farmers mostly dwell in a mound-city's satellite villages and small towns where they are born, live and die with little to no chance (or need) to travel afar. Their hamlets are essentially the rural, smaller-scale version of a čituu'sha in that they are self-sustaining communities where everyone knows & works with one another: in their case, all farmers must be familiar with and grow the staple 'Three Sisters' of corn, squash and beans planted in and between small mounds, keys to the demographic explosion of the Mississippian people's numbers and thus the advent of their empire. Originating in Mesoamerica and spreading northward over many thousands of years, the Three Sisters form a symbiotic synergy which complements all three crops wonderfully – the beans can climb up the cornstalks, enrich the soil for the others' benefit and help stabilize said cornstalks in strong winds, and in addition to keeping the ground moist the squash keep pests and weeds away with their wide leaves.

Wealthier and more favored farmers live along the inside edges of the city walls, tending to large gardens or orchards which do not grow the Three Sisters as those outside do but instead specialize in more exotic crops; their provision of these specialized crops to the city is then cited as the justification as to why they should get to enjoy the protection of the city walls and the prestige of living a little bit closer to the chief than the villagers outside. For example, one family or clan of these higher-class farmers might produce nothing but pumpkins, while another provides the community with apples or berries. Under Dakaruniku's direction, Mississippian farmers have adopted basic furrow irrigation to more easily water farms further away from the riverbanks and also started using rotten meat & other food products as fertilizers (those in the cities can just use – ahem – nightsoil, simultaneously recycling the city's waste products into something useful and helping to alleviate the health burden that comes with city life), thereby taking advantage of the many rivers crisscrossing their lands and further boosting their already-considerable agricultural productivity.

Finally, those unfortunate enough to be born or taken as slaves sit at the bottom of Mississippian society. Some have the relative good luck to be a privately owned household slave of one of the Braves or priests, thereby guaranteeing them a strong and comfortable roof over their head, three warm meals a day and considerably less manual labor than most; these could be attendants, concubines, nannies & tutors to the household's children, and so on. The vast majority of slaves, however, belong to the šaánu and thus to the city he rules. These 'common' slaves are employed in the most difficult and unpleasant jobs which not even free-born vagrants might be interested in, ranging from nightsoil collection to being rented out to help farm in the villages to – most dreaded of all fates for a Mississippian slave – a brutish and short life in the mines, next to which being sacrificed at the altar looks practically merciful (Roman mine slaves can certainly sympathize with that, if only they knew the Mississippian civilization exists at all). Dakaruniku often collects slaves on their wars and raids against their many enemies, fellow Mississippian and foreigner (like the Three Fires tribes) alike, but the children of slaves are also reckoned as slaves in their society and slaves can only be freed by the express order of their owner (as proclaimed before the local šaánu and at least one priest, representing the gods' observation of the manumission ceremony).

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A family of Mississippian farmers on their lunch break before returning to the fields

As with most Wildermen, the Mississippians have well-defined gender roles across their society. Men are expected to be warriors, hunters and travelers while women are chiefly weavers, cooks and also generally tend to home & hearth. While Mississippian leadership structures are still universally patriarchal (with the men leading everything from warbands to craftsmen's associations, and all of Dakaruniku's chiefs being men), their family lineages are traced through the mother (for one can be certain that the woman from whom a child is born is indeed his or her mother, that same certainty does not extend to the father) – the mother's social class is the primary determiner of the child's own future prospects, as the child will be born into the lower class of the two: the son of a priestess and a warrior will by default be considered for the priest's path, for example, though a younger child would be more free to pursue the path of the warrior than his older brother or sister. The only exception is a slave's child, who will be born a slave regardless of whether it was the father or mother who was a slave. They have words for men who take a woman's role, staying behind at home to weave clothes and avoid conflict, as well as for women who wish to take a man's role and travel abroad to trade or engage in other manly pursuits: haanawisaabah and haanawikuna, 'like-woman' and 'like-man' respectively. But though this practice might be tolerated in small amounts, such individuals are rare and often treated with suspicion & mockery at best by their peers, even if they were to prove themselves skilled at whatever field they pursue; it would be a grave mistake for future historians to assume Mississippian society was a 'gender-nonconformist' paradise.

Mississippian warfare is presently in a state of transition, like almost everything else about their growing empire. Traditionally their warbands were comprised entirely of the 'Braves': the martial aristocracy of their cities who exist purely to fight wars or train for the next war and subsist off the generosity of the citizens they wage those wars for, and who wear expensive jewelry, warpaint and occasionally headdresses on the battlefield so that everyone knows they are the men worth killing. Dakaruniku still retains a class of Braves, but while they remain the elite of the great city's armies, they tend to function more as officers and a tactical reserve as of the dawn of the tenth century rather than being the only sort of warriors Dakaruniku can field. To exploit their huge manpower pool, Dakarunikuan chiefs going back to Kádaráš-rahbád have opened up the ranks to non-Brave volunteers, mostly the younger sons of the lower classes who couldn't expect to inherit much from their parents and thus could be more easily enticed by the promise of loot and glory in battle. In this manner they were able to raise much larger armies than any of their Mississippian rivals, sometimes outnumbering even entire coalitions, making for much easier campaigns of conquest than if they'd limited themselves to exclusively relying on the Braves.

Still, Braves continue to shoulder all leadership responsibilities in the early imperial Mississippian army, and it is in fact a massive cultural taboo for a soldier of lesser birth to dare give a Brave orders (regardless of how much more competent the lowborn man might be or how logical his commands are): the Brave is entitled, and even expected, to kill that common soldier on the spot for such impudence and in so doing reassert his honor & social standing before all witnesses. When it is time to apportion the spoils of conquest, Braves also take precedence ahead of non-Braves and get the first pick of the plunder & slaves. Thus even the Šaánu-šaánuraan must be careful, when organizing his warbands, to ensure that Braves are captaining the enterprise and that all the warriors involved know their place. Common soldiers can be assigned to lead units comprised of fellow lowborns if no Brave is on hand to fill that role however, posts comparable to the Roman optio/biarch and centurion/centenarius, though they must still ultimately answer to higher-ranking Brave officers. A common soldier is allowed to ascend to the ranks of the Braves only either with the patronage of one among the Braves, or after surviving twenty years of martial service in good standing as recorded by the priests; most will retire with their share of the plunder and return to their old profession long before that, though.

As to how they fight, the discovery of metal-working and in particular iron-working has been nothing short of revolutionary for the Mississippians, for iron weapons gave them a qualitative advantage over their opponents (who were at best fellow Mississippians wielding copper weapons) in addition to their oft-overwhelming quantitative one. While they have not been able to also crack the secret to forging mail, despite the best efforts of their spies to learn this from the Britons, Dakaruniku has decided that in this area they must try to stand on their own and have begun experimenting with forging armor as well, which will doubtless be another game-changer when and if they manage it on a larger scale. In 900 AD their best smiths have managed to create a few simple helmets and cuirasses for Haraánuʾhuunawiísuʾ (who likes to wear his old deer skull, a reminder of the first-ever living creature he killed, over his helm) and his most martially inclined sons, the princes who will battle one another to succeed him when he dies: two large iron plates, decorated with copper inlays befitting the status of the men wearing them and bound together with a mix of leather thongs and fiber ropes. Not nearly as protective as a Roman byrnie, but certainly much better than the absolute nothing which other Mississippian warriors (including Dakarunikuans) go into battle with.

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Prince Tarahčišut'kaánux ('Strong-Like-Oak'), one of the sons of Haraánuʾhuunawiísuʾ, walking past palace attendants and a royal potter to fight yet another war. He visibly wields an iron ax, wears the copper-and-iron cuirass and helmet forged for him by the palace smiths, and is accompanied by a common archer

Common soldiers are still much more likely to have to make do with the older copper and flint or bone weapons unless they happen to be wealthy and/or well-connected to their city's smiths, the iron ones being reserved for the Braves and royal princes. For protection, the unarmored majority of Mississippian warriors rely on charms (amulets, necklaces, etc.) enchanted by their priests to deflect enemy strikes and, more practically, shields: lightweight defenses made of bark, which although obviously not as strong as European shields of hard wood reinforced with metal, are still effective enough at catching enemy arrows and glancing blows from the less advanced weapons common to rival Wildermen to represent a worthy investment for Dakaruniku and its cohorts. It also certainly helps that bark is much cheaper, more plentiful and easier to work with than iron or copper. Since Dakaruniku has so far been unable to procure horses (at least breeding pairs of the beasts), all of their warriors necessarily must still fight and move as infantrymen, though the Braves are known to use their dogs both for transportation (by dragging a travois bearing their equipment) and to directly support them in battle.

In olden times, Mississippian Braves – uniformly armed with axes, spears and bows, enabling them to fight effectively at any range – would seek out rival Braves so that they might engage them in combat, not dissimilar to the tradition of 'heroic warfare' celebrated during the Bronze Age in Europe and the Middle East. Thus their warbands essentially did not fight as cohesive units, but broke down into an array of one-on-one duels (at least until one side had killed more of the other's Braves, allowing the survivors to start ganging up on their remaining adversaries) when combat was joined. The victors would then collect the heads of all the Braves they had killed and receive commensurate rewards from their chief when they stacked said heads before him, on occasion causing disputes and even lethal duels between Braves who claim to have killed the same foe. Any Brave who surrenders and is taken prisoner is held for ransom; if he can't pay his way out of the victors' cage, he faces slavery or death at the annual sacrifice ceremony. If a non-Brave happens to be involved in the fighting and gets killed, their head is not collected simply because their death brings their killer no glory, and if they tried to surrender they were traditionally not taken prisoner either due to their assumed inability to provide a worthy ransom.

To the Chief-of-Chiefs, this is no longer a viable method of waging war as his armies dramatically expand well beyond the ranks of the Braves. Haraánuʾhuunawiísuʾ has built on his predecessors' efforts to adopt massed formation warfare, organizing the common soldiery into the first coherent units in known Mississippian history – squads of up to ten men called an akahpaátu ('tent', so-called because these men were expected to share a tent at camp), organized into what are essentially platoons of five (fifty men total) called an akátuhuuruʾ or 'column', further organized into hundred-man companies called ačanaátuʾ or 'warbands' which are for now the largest Mississippian formations. While capable of independent action on the march, usually foraging or scouting and skirmishing with the enemy, for larger pitched battles these units have been trained to fight together under the command of the Chief-of-Chiefs or his appointed commander (with the threat of summary execution awaiting officers who insist on defying their superior's orders). It is also the pragmatic preference of Dakaruniku (in the years after the reign of the especially brutish Kádaráš-rahbád, at least) to capture and enslave their enemies where possible, even to compel entire city-states to surrender instead of fighting at all, and to generally avoid engaging in unnecessary bloodshed for the sake of glory or simple bloodlust; all this is why they are often extremely brutal to enemies who do resist to the bitter end.

The Braves retain their versatility as elite archer-spearmen even as they increasingly transition from their role as pure warriors to officers of the growing Mississippian army, but the same cannot be said of their lowborn underlings. Being responsible for training their assigned units in addition to leading them on the march & into battle, for reasons of both efficiency and social status (after all, the average Brave is unlikely to be interested in training a man he sees as his lesser to be just as good as him at all forms of warfare) they only train their subordinates in one of the three main weapons of the Mississippians: the spear, the ax or the bow & arrow. The result is that each squad ends up being one comprised entirely of spearmen, axemen or bowmen (save their commanding officer of course), and are further organized with similarly specialized squads into uniform columns and finally warbands.

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Mississippian priests blessing two warriors who have just returned to Dakaruniku in triumph: a common spearman (probably a former farmer) and a Brave axeman carrying the head of one of his enemies, both unarmored

Mississippian warfare as directed by the Chief-of-Chiefs relies on said great chieftain being able to coordinate these uniform formations of spearmen, axemen & archers to mutually support one another using an increasingly sophisticated system of horn and banner signals. The archers are typically arrayed in skirmish lines ahead of the warriors with melee weapons, exchanging missiles with the enemy and falling back at their approach. The spearmen, of course, form spear-walls when on the defensive, supported by units of axemen securing their flanks or standing behind them as a reserve. On the offensive however, the spearmen will instead form a column (typically ten ranks deep, five men wide to a rank – a single akátuhuuruʾ or, well, 'column') with the intent of smashing a hole in the enemy line, with the axemen following close behind to exploit the newly made opening. These tactics might not seem overly complex or impressive to most Europeans' eyes, but they represent a massive shock to other less organized Wildermen, who often lose heart at the sight of these comparatively huge columns of increasingly-disciplined warriors bearing down on them even before the battle is physically joined. And who knows? If the Mississippians' ranks grow further still in number and they develop the capacity to manufacture armor in sufficient numbers to outfit their common troops, perhaps their spear columns can present a shock even to the Europeans, many years into the future.

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[1] The Ancient Puebloan civilization of the Four Corners, AKA the 'Anasazi' ('ancestral enemies') to the modern Navajo or 'Hisatsinom' ('ancient people') to their own Hopi descendants.

[2] The famous 'birdman burial' of Cahokia.

[3] The Shawnee, or rather their (probable) ancestors in the 'Fort Ancient culture'.

[4] Early Iroquoian peoples dwelling in & around the Appalachians, south of the Great Lakes. 'Irnokué' is not their name for themselves (they do not have such a broad collective name at all IIRC, only for regional confederations like the Haudenosaunee/Iroquois Confederacy at the widest) but an Algonquin insult meaning 'terrible men', one of several speculative origins for the French word 'Irocois'.

[5] Ancestors of the Sioux, living in what's now Minnesota and northern Wisconsin as of the tenth century AD and dubbed the 'Laurel culture' to archaeologists. 'Oyáte' is simply the Dakota/Lakota word for 'nation'.

[6] The Mississippian counterpart to Atahensic or the 'Skywoman', a goddess of the Huron and other Iroquoian peoples.

[7] Most of this we know now from research done into the 'Southeastern Ceremonial Complex', the religion of the Mississippians whose true name has been lost to time IOTL. As can be observed, some of their deities were also shared with (or at least have much in common with those of) their neighbors who did manage to leave distinct descendants.

And a Happy New Year to all! My New Year's gift is this, the longest chapter in this timeline so far (longer even than the 700 AD overview of the then-recently-reunified HRE, the previous record-holder). Re: Fraxinetum, interesting suggestion to be sure. However that site appears to be located east of Arles, which Gaiseric's heir Stéléggu/Stilicho 'Caesar' just failed to push past on land. Striking by sea like the Muslims did IRL seems a more sensible approach, even if the Venetians' failure to acquire Greek fire for themselves & break out of the Adriatic (rendering them unable to offer much help to the African fleet) as well as the NRE being better-organized than late 9th century RL Europe might make it more difficult, historically it looks like the Umayyads pulled it off with literally one ship's worth of dudes anyway. In any case, stay tuned for the next chapters, when we return to the regularly-scheduled progression of the timeline...
 

ATP

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Considering that greek probably knew about Carribeans,Stilithian here should go there,no matter who win the war.
But - it stilll would be far from mayan and Tolteks.

Fraxinetum - i think,that they raided even Swiss then.Well,would-be-swiss.
 

shangrila

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I like the Mycenean flair and the Neo-Platonic religion. Not that the Mycenean "Empire" was very stable of course, but the Mississippi is better suited to an unified empire than either Greece or Mesoamerica. Better water transport than the latter and easier to build roads than either.

Come to think of it, maybe Ionian Christianity would be more Neo-Platonic due to how important Augustine was to the old Imperial Stilichians and the stronger Christian Africa and West in general. Perhaps that would play a role in the eventual conversion issues.
 
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ATP

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I like the Mycenean flair with their Neo-Platonic religion. Not that the Mycenean "Empire" was very stable of course, but the Mississippi is better suited to an unified empire than either Greece or Mesoamerica. Better water transport than the latter and easier to build roads than either.

Come to think of it, maybe Ionian Christianity would be more Neo-Platonic due to how important Augustine was to the old Imperial Stilichians and the stronger Christian Africa and West in general. Perhaps that would play a role in the eventual conversion issues.
Wait,i thought that Mycean simply belived in old greek gods.
But - Stilithians eventually get there,so maybe they convert them to their own version of Chrystianity.

Becouse,if Stilitchians here lost civil war,but keep their state,they could eventually create their own Heresy.
 

shangrila

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Wait,i thought that Mycean simply belived in old greek gods.
They did, the way I phrased it was awkward and now edited.

The Neo-Platonic-esque religion is particularly interesting narratively, since it would be a point of familiarity with both Christianity and Islam, and probably get both faiths to treat the Mississippians as not just pagans. On the other hand, the exact specifics of the Neo-Platonic elements of both Christianity and Islam, aka how God/Trinity fits with The One/Nous/Emanations and the precise meaning of humans coming from/returning to God made up a huge part of declarations of heresy and anathema. And an awful lot of Christians and Muslims think heretics are even worse than pagans and heathens.
 
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ATP

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They did, the way I phrased it was awkward and now edited.

The Neo-Platonic-esque religion is particularly interesting narratively, since it would be a point of familiarity with both Christianity and Islam, and probably get both faiths to treat the Mississippians as not just pagans. On the other hand, the exact specifics of the Neo-Platonic elements of both Christianity and Islam, aka how God/Trinity fits with The One/Nous/Emanations and the precise meaning of humans coming from/returning to God made up a huge part of declarations of heresy and anathema. And an awful lot of Christians and Muslims think heretics are even worse than pagans and heathens.
Both true - stilitchians could consider them as heretics,not pagans,and treat us such.
 
901-905: Turning Point, Part II

Circle of Willis

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The start of the tenth century was a year of mixed fortunes for the Northern and Southern Romans alike. The Northern Romans' efforts to break through into northeastern Italy saw them score a few victories early in 901, defeating the Africans in the Battles of Manià[1] and Pordenon[2] as they marched toward the primary concentration of Yésaréyu's forces on the Piave River (Lat.: 'Plavis'). In both cases the Northern Roman armies benefited from the assistance of the local Italo-Goth gentry captained by the Della Bella and Della Grazia families, who did not only provide soldiers to reinforce their ranks and castles to rest in but also valuable information on the hilly local terrain. At Manià the Italo-Goths' help allowed the formidable Briton longbowmen of the Aloysian army to seize the high ground and entrench themselves there, from where they comfortably repelled the attacks of even the African heavy cavalry (and heavy infantry, when the knights tired of having their horses shot out from under them and advanced on foot) whereas at Pordenon, Italo-Gothic scouts enabled the Swabian contingent and several legions to cross the Noncello River unopposed and in good order at fords the Moors were unaware of, compromising the latter's defensive plans. Adalric & Artur also left a small division, mostly Sclaveni, not quite to besiege Venice but merely to guard against any Venetian move on land to attack them from behind in support of the Stilichians, which these Slavs proved quite capable at.

However, African resistance grew much stiffer as the Northern Romans tried to cross the Piave, marching straight down the Via Postumia at first. Yésaréyu's counterattack fell upon the Northern Roman forces near the village of Carbonera north of Treviso, between the Sile and Piave Rivers, when they had yet to finish fully crossing the latter: this time he was sure to gain the high ground overlooking the battlefield, allowing his crossbowmen to keep up with Pendragon's archers, and his cavalry once more defeated their counterparts from Northern Europe in the fierce fighting in & around Carbonera itself. His younger son Tolemeu came to blows with Artur's own son and heir Brydany (Lat.: 'Britannicus') in Treviso itself, and there the younger British prince proved the more able warrior but was unable to get a finishing blow in due to the defeat of the Northern Roman chivalry, with whom he retreated. Ultimately, the Southern Romans succeeded in pushing their Northern Roman counterparts into unfavorable marshy ground east and north of the town, where Adalric counseled a retreat back over the Piave after nightfall and the difficulties of maneuvering in that terrain forced an end to large-scale hostilities.

The Northern Romans beat back the Southerners' effort to chase them out of Italy altogether in the Battle of Oderzo (Lat.: 'Opitergium') east of the Piave, where once more British longbowmen (supported by continental crossbowmen) in pre-prepared defensive positions and protected by large numbers of capable heavy infantrymen proved an insurmountable obstacle to the Africans and their allies. But neither were the Northerners able to push over the Piave for long once they had stabilized their position & resumed the offensive – in the fall months, they got a little further than they did the first time but were still defeated before even reaching Treviso in the Battle of Villorba. There the Southern cavalry & infantry alike were able to close the distance and drive their counterparts to retreat, well before the Northern missile corps could get many volleys off. As winter approached (bringing with it the end of campaign season) and both sides found themselves at an impasse, Artur proposed the first instance of what would become a key feature of future British strategies in wars against continental opponents: redirecting some of their soldiers on back-biting adventures to open new fronts elsewhere.

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The bloody but generally indecisive back-and-forth between the Northern & Southern Romans accomplished little beyond bleeding both sides out across northern Italy, and persuaded Artur Pendragon to seek unorthodox ways of breaking the stalemate

Now Adalric & Radovid successfully argued against the wilder schemes to try to land troops in Bética and Mauretania, while the victory of a combined Lusitanian-Aquitanian army over the Southern Roman general & duke Yammelu (Ber.: 'Garmul') ey Léshéu[3] in the Battle of Zamora on the Duero this year proved to Aloysius IV that there was no pressing need to reinforce the Iberian front. The Northern Emperor did, however, agree to Artur's suggestion to divert some reinforcements through the friendly Alpine passes to northwestern Italy, so as to support the Della Grazia brothers still holding Milan against the Southern Romans (and perhaps turn that city into the western base for a two-pronged offensive against Stilichian forces in northern Italy) as well as Duke Hoël of Brittany, who was still contending with Stéléggu around Arles. Moreover he also agreed to pursue talks with the great Italian cities whose fleets and ambitions rivaled that of Venice: the lesser but still-growing power of Genoa, and more importantly neutral Pisa and Stilichian-aligned Amalfi. The Pisans had declared neutrality and made no effort to hinder to either side, indeed daring to sell arms and supplies to both the North and South, in hopes of avoiding conflict, but found the prospect of receiving imperial patronage enough to counterbalance their commercial rivals on the other side of Italy tempting; the same was true of Amalfi, which while having bowed to the advance of the Africans through southern Italy, was not especially enthusiastic about Yésaréyu's claim (following him more-so out of fear than genuine conviction) and certainly no friend to Venice.

Yésaréyu in turn took steps to buttress his support among the Italian magnates and merchants by painting Aloysius IV as an anarchist who would overturn the social order and free the slaves on whose labor said magnates' estates depended and said merchants sold for great profit, nay, even set them above their former masters out of the Pelagian influences surely instilled in him by his mentors and misguided affection for his Slavic wife (nevermind that this very same accusation was made against his own progenitor Stilicho by the latter's Senatorial enemies once). For evidence the Moorish propagandists cited not just the supposed crypto-Pelagianism of which the British Church was still oft accused by their African rivals, but also what had happened in Crepsa. Aloysius himself did entirely too little to challenge these rumors, though Adalric had counseled him to issue a public proclamation that he would respect the rights & property of all those who stood in his way even should he have to militarily defeat them. Instead he heeded the counsel of his uncle and father-in-law, who advised him to follow in the footsteps of Stilicho since the latter's own descendant wasn't going to – totally abolishing slavery as the most idealistic British clerics wished might be an unrealistic prospect at this time, but there was no need to discourage the hopes (false or otherwise) which might animate the bonded laborers of Italy into rising up in favor of the Aloysians as those of Crepsa already had, and thus hopefully make their push into the peninsula easier. Amalfi, at least, was thus enticed to remain on the Southern Roman side and even increase their contribution to the Stilichian war effort.

As for the Eastern Romans, Alexander was tied down all 901 trying to contain the furious advances of Al-Turani. The previous year's victory in the Battle of Lake Tatta had been a good start, which the aspiring Eastern Emperor was eager to build on in his long road to kicking the Muslims out of his core territories east of the Bosphorus. First marching up the Halys, he was able to secure Sebasteia[4] against a major Saracen raid and reinforce the Anatolian connection with what remained of Armenia & Georgia by mid-summer. From there he and the Skleroi pushed along a broad front from the Halys toward Tzamandos near the source of the Cappadocian-Cilician torrent Onopniktes in the west and as far as Tephrike[5] and the passes of Melitine in the east, in the process so buoying the hopes of the defenders of Antioch and its environs that they continued to hold out against the Saracens despite being presently cut off (by land, anyway) from the rest of Christendom. However Al-Turani put a dead-stop to the Greek counterattack in Melitine and suppressed the resistance of the Cilician Bulgars in the terrible Battle of Tarsus, demonstrating that the Arabs were far from beaten and that if anything, these setbacks just required him to start fighting seriously after the effortless early start to his campaign.

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Eastern Roman cataphracts smashing through the Saracen ranks outside Sebasteia

902 was a year of several important developments which benefited both the Aloysians and Stilichians. While Aloysius IV & his mother continued to negotiate a Polish and Ruthenian intervention on their side, both the Northern and Southern Romans also made several attempts to cross the Piave in force and rout their enemies, to no avail as they proved too evenly matched in both generalship and numbers to decisively defeat the other: ultimately their primary accomplishment was bleeding the other's forces and frustrating one another. The Battle of Puart[6], the largest of these battles, was a hard-fought Northern Roman victory captained by Artur, one which left them too spent to pursue the retreating Africans – its highlight was a second clash between the princes Tolemeu and Brydany, with Tolemeu being victorious this time but also unable to finish his foe off due to his own army being in retreat by the time he won. The pair were no less pleased at this outcome than their fathers were at how the larger battle itself turned out, and both swore that the next time they dueled would be the last. What did represent a more significant victory for the Northern Romans, however, was that Teodorico Adelfonsez – Yésaréyu's squire and hostage – was 'captured' by them: in truth, he simply took advantage of the Southern Roman defeat to escape his distracted master and gladly 'surrendered' to the first Northern Roman cavalry squadron he came across, thus freeing his father the Duke of Bética to rebel at long last.

This year's battles in north-western Italy moved a bit faster and produced more conclusive results than those around the Piave. As planned in the previous winter, once the weather allowed it Adalric maneuvered through the Alps with 12,000 soldiers (mostly imperial legionaries and his own Alemanni supported by smaller contingents of crossbowmen, British archers and mounted Gallic knights) to come to the aid of Milan and threaten the rear of Yésaréyu's own forces. The old king and general helped Torismondo della Grazia drive off a large force of Moorish raiders harassing Milan's outskirts in the Battle of Lodi[7] in summer of 902, then pushed east- and southward against the Southern Romans and those Italians who had pledged allegiance to the Stilichian cause. Their combined forces successfully stormed Ticino[8], the Africans' closest and most threatening forward-base against Milan, almost immediately after Lodi and dealt out further defeats in the Battles of Cremona, Brescia and finally Lake Benaco[9], scattering the Southern Roman forces west of the Mincio River in the hills south of that lake.

Adalric's victories had the effect of pushing pro-Aloysian voices on the Pisan city council into a dominant position, finally bringing that Italian city and its fleet into action on the Northern Roman side. Together with the smaller Genoese fleet (for Genoa had already taken the side of Aloysius IV a good deal earlier), they helped balance the naval scales in the western Mediterranean against the African navy, which otherwise dominated the Gallic squadrons faithful to the Northern Emperor. Yésaréyu, for his part, was infuriated by this turn of events (as well as the new rebellion in Bética) but could not make good on his threats to burn Pisa to the ground due to a lack of sufficient forces in Etruria with which to storm its walls and the increasing danger to his positions in north-central Italy. He did, however, find some relief in his heir's victory on the other side of the Alps: Stéléggu, discouraged from attempting to sail around his opponents' positions around Arles by the movements of the Genoese and Pisan fleets, fell back from that great city to try to lure Duke Hoël onto a battlefield of his choosing. His feint worked, and in the Battle of Nîmes on winter's edge he won a resounding victory against the Northern Romans – in fact the engagement's outcome was decided early on when the African cavalry crushed that of Gaul and Armorica, with Hoël himself being toppled from his horse and trampled to death by his retreating men, and said retreat rapidly degenerating into a rout between the loss of his leadership and Stéléggu's aggressive pursuit.

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Berbers of the army of Prince Stéléggu (or to them, 'Stilicho Caesar') gallivanting through southeastern Gaul after their victory at Nîmes

While Arles itself continued to hold out under the staunchly pro-Aloysian Bishop Charles de Blois, Stéléggu was able to not only place the city under siege once again but also receive the submission of most other towns & cities around it in the wake of his victory, including both Marseille and Toulon. He also sacked several of the Aloysians' private manors in the Côte d'Azur, angering both Aloysius IV and Arturia almost as much as the Eastern Roman rebellion cutting off their tea supply had. While a frustrating complication for the strategies of the Northern Romans in general, since it once more raised the specter of Stilichian encroachment upon Milan from the west, the Ríodam Artur himself took the loss much better than his sister did: he had procured a dispensation (one was necessary due to their being cousins) from Pope Theodore for the marriage of his son Brydany to Hoël's solitary daughter Claire, and at a much cheaper cost than would have otherwise been the case on account of Theodore's loyalty to the Aloysian dynasty and his being one of his nephew's top lieutenants, as well as Aloysius IV's recognition of said daughter's right to inherit the Breton duchy ahead of lesser Rolandine cousins. If Claire could hold on to her inheritance, then Brydany would be Duke of Brittany jure uxoris and their children would eventually unite the Bretons of the continent with their insular kindred, in the process restoring the Pendragons' mainland foothold.

In the eastern lands, Alexander left old Duke Andronikos to hold the line in Melitine while he moved to clear the Muslims out of Armenia and Georgia, first clearing a path by thrashing a too-small blocking detachment Al-Turani had placed in his path at the Battle of Martyropolis[10]. Surging Islamic forces had laid waste to the eastern Georgian provinces of Kakheti and Hereti, in the process sacking Kabalaka[11], Shaki and Telavi; they had gone so far as to threaten Tbilisi before being driven back by Eastern Roman reinforcements, having perhaps overextended themselves on that front. Similarly in Armenia, the Mamikonian royals had been driven to the western fortress-city of Ani now that Dvin lay in ruins under Islamic occupation and were hard-pressed until Alexander and the Skleroi came to their aid. Late in 902 Alexander won a major victory in the Battle of Manzikert[12], in which his cataphracts smashed through the Saracen center to capture the opposing general (and one of Al-Turani's protégés) Hamdan al-Sistani, following which Al-Turani ordered a general evacuation from the Caucasian kingdoms. So far so good, as far as Alexander could tell, although the Muslims withdrew in much too good order for his liking and despite his efforts to aggressively pursue them – his next biggest victory after Manzikert this year being trapping and forcing the surrender of 'merely' 2,000 Muslim troops at Khlat[13] by Lake Van's northern shore.

The Pendragons' boon on the mainland did not go without the 'balancing' of ill fortune elsewhere, though. Flóki of Dyflin died in 902 and his son & duly elected successor Sigurd, who immediately disposed of his father's policy of avoiding hostilities with the Roman world by launching raids against western Britain for the first time in decades. While a strong and skillful warrior who had killed many an Irishman, Sigurd clearly was neither as wise nor as strategically gifted as his father; still, with the vast majority of British military strength committed to securing Aloysius IV's throne, there was little they could do about the renewed Viking threat right then, other than to curse this grandson of Ráðbarðr and swear revenge upon him as soon as they were able. Worse still for Artur IX, Map Beòthu had gathered sufficient strength to march out of the Pictish Highlands and drive Máelchon map Dungarth from Pheairt as the latter's Anglo-British protectors dwindled to nothing, called away to reinforce their real masters down south. Máelchon fled to Edinburgh again rather than even try to stand up to the rebel Picts, while his brother Domelch was captured and kept as a hostage by the victorious Map Beòthu. These mounting problems back home added pressure onto the Pendragon siblings to seek a quicker victory over the Stilichians, even if it required them to take greater risks.

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Hiberno-Norse raiders from Dyflin sacking a monastery on the Cambrian coast

If 902 could be described as a year of stalemates which nevertheless gave a slight advantage to the Aloysians, then 903 could be described as the inverse, (mostly until the end) favoring the Stilichians instead. In Italy, the ancient Adalric of Alemannia was found to have died in his sleep when his squires came to wake him on a cold winter morn, having lived to nearly be as old as his late uncle and mentor – and as he was one of Aloysius IV's most able lieutenants, his loss was one hard felt indeed within the Northern Roman camp. Yésaréyu immediately exploited the news of Adalric's passing as soon as the snows started melting and campaign season began anew, pushing west with the bulk of his forces & additional reinforcements from Africa (a mix of new recruits and men 'borrowed' from his brother's army) after leaving a smaller blocking detachment to hold the Piave, and promptly smashing Della Grazia's army in the Battle of Mantua. By the end of the year, he had completely reversed Adalric's advances and placed Della Grazia back under siege in Milan, this time with little chance of the Northern Romans being able to send troops to the Milanese garrison's relief through the Alps again. The slave uprisings in Italy which the Aloysians had hoped to distract him were by & large disappointments – too few in number, disorganized and unsupported to be anything more than easily-squished annoyances at this point.

Further west, it seemed that Stéléggu's chances of pushing through the remaining Northern Roman defenses in far southern Gaul & linking up with his father were improving further as well. Count Estiene of Blois had replaced Hoël of Brittany as the commander of the Aloysian loyalist forces on this front, but he proved to be an inferior leader compared to his predecessor and was unable to contain the Stilichian prince's renewed eastward push. Despite the Genoese-Pisan fleet's victory over the African fleet in the Battle of Arzaghèna[14], a few of his skiffs still managed to evade them in the waters around northwestern Italy and southeastern Gaul to land an advance party at the coastal village of Les Issambres, from where they rapidly seized a fatally undermanned fort on a nearby hill covered in ash trees (where Estiene had not expected an attack in the slightest) and established a beachhead behind Blois' lines. Having already managed to bungle the Battle of Saint-Maximin-la-Sainte-Baume despite enjoying a terrain advantage in the nearby Sainte-Baume Mountains, Blois panicked and largely withdrew from the Gallic coast at this point – in turn causing his brother Bishop Charles to surrender Arles – while the Genoese & Pisans were led to reconsider their allegiance as the secondary Southern Roman army approached Liguria.

In Blois' defense, the reinforcements he was expecting from Gaul and Britain had mostly been diverted elsewhere – some to defend Britannia against the renewed Viking raids, others to fight for Claire of Brittany against the claims of her cousins (nominally supported by Carthage) and still others to Bética, now that there was a rebellion there to justify Artur's intent of sending soldiers that far south and Adalric was no longer alive to challenge his strategy. At least the last of these proved an astute investment on the High King's part, for Duke Adelfonso was able to coordinate his offensive from Cordoba with the Lusitanian prince Vímara and deliver a smashing blow against Duke Yammelu in the Battle of Portalegre (Lat.: 'Portus Alacer'). Apparently trusting that his greater numbers would give him the victory – he outnumbered the 6,000-strong Northern Roman allies by three-to-one – Yammelu committed to a series of ineffective frontal assaults against the strong Hispano-Lusitanian defensive positions atop the wooded hills northeast of Portalegre, starting with knightly charges which floundered beneath the allied British archers' arrows or against their well-planned lines of trenches, stakes and caltrops in rough terrain.

Unlike his liege, Yammelu did not know when to quit and the Moors ended up being routed off the field after his death on the tenth such charge that day: their losses were so grave that the Battle of Portalegre fatally compromised their hold on central Hispania, and also encouraged Ramon of Aquitaine to launch new offensives of his own aimed at both recapturing Barcelona and harassing Stéléggu from behind in Gaul. The unfolding disaster in Hispania brought an immediate end to Stéléggu's push across southern Gaul just before he could enter Italy, as he now needed to divert reinforcements to prevent the complete downfall of the Southern Roman positions in Spania and to also keep the Aquitani off his back in Gaul. Artur, for his part, was not expecting such success to come out of the relatively small investment he had placed into Adelfonso's rising (a few hundred longbowmen and knights) but was elated at the outcome and how it gave him a chance to attack Yésaréyu at Milan before the latter's son could reinforce him.

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Duke Adelfonso's Spanish troops, aided by their Lusitanian and British allies, beating back yet another African charge in the forested hills east of Portalegre

Further to the east, the Ruthenians under Grand Prince Svyatoslav finally committed to helping the cause of Aloysius IV this year, encouraged by the Eastern Romans' lack of activity on the Balkan front and ensuing successful efforts by the Serbo-Thracian armies to roll back some of their conquests. The main Ruthenian force headed for the Danube while a secondary detachment sailed for the Tauric Peninsula, raiding wherever there wasn't a fortified Greek city blocking their path and extensively pillaging the earth around Cherson. The Poles joined in immediately after simply not to be left out and potentially risk having the Romans rule in the Ruthenians' favor in future border disputes as a consequence and their army moved to help Aloysius IV out directly, but could not reach Italy from so far away before the year's end and wintered in Dulebia instead. The Khazars, meanwhile, mounted their own raids on the Northern Caucasian principalities which they had to cede to the Empire previously and opened negotiations with Aloysius and Yésaréyu both, demanding the return of the Alans & Caucasian Avars beneath Atil's suzerainty in exchange for support against the Eastern Romans.

These developments greatly irritated Alexander, but he had much bigger fish to fry at the time than anything to do on the northern fringes of his third of the Holy Roman Empire. He and his granduncle spent the early campaign season maneuvering to engage Al-Turani's main army in southeastern Armenia, and when they saw the opportunity to envelop said enemy host near the village of Hadamakert[15] – Alexander approaching from the northwest, and Andronikos from the southwest – they took it. In truth however, they were marching into Al-Turani's carefully constructed trap. An entire secondary Arab army hiding to the south, comprised of most of the reinforcements Al-Turani had summoned to his side in the previous year, ambushed Andronikos and drove him & his 14,000 men into a bloody, hard-fought retreat in a coordinated assault with the main army under Al-Turani's direct command. Andronikos in turn sent word to warn his grandnephew to turn back, but Turkic outriders in the Saracens' service ensured that no messenger could reach the primary Eastern Roman army in time and Alexander, believing he certainly had the Muslims on the back-foot after his previous victories, obliviously marched onward in total confidence.

Alexander and his entire army – another force of around 15,000 men – thus captured Hadamakert with deceptive ease in June of 903, only to then find themselves found themselves trapped, hugely outnumbered and completely lacking in reinforcements when some 35,000 Muslims converge upon their position almost immediately after. The headstrong Eastern Emperor attempted a breakout against the odds (lacking the supplies to hold out behind Hadamakert's inadequate defenses for long and unable to acquire more due to the swarms of Turkic horsemen in the countryside around him), but was decisively crushed in the battle which followed. He himself was badly wounded and captured, the first time even a usurper with pretenses toward the purple had fallen into enemy hands in many centuries, while his army was destroyed; a third fell in the battle itself and the rest surrendered with him outside of Hadamakert. The jubilant Al-Turani forced the surrender of Antioch three months after this devastating victory (with the Ionian Patriarch Theodoret fleeing to Cyprus and eventually Greece, rather than stay in his seat no matter what like the Pope had), while the Skleroi were left with entirely far too few men to oppose his inevitable march into the heart of Anatolia next.

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Ghilman and Turkic light horsemen of Al-Turani's army swarming the beleaguered Eastern Romans (and Caucasian & Cilician Bulgar auxiliaries) of Alexander outside Hadamakert

904's campaign season began with Artur, Radovid & Aloysius IV finally managing to breach the reduced Southern Roman defenses along the Piave, aided by German and Slavic reinforcements moving along the old Roman road network and crossing through the Alps when the weather cleared up to allow it. As they marched the Northern Romans further added to their ranks by sacking the estates of those Italians who had declared for Yésaréyu, liberating the slaves & serfs and then immediately drafting the able-bodied men among them into their army: while their role and numbers were exaggerated in the histories, these men (as essentially disposable light infantry) did well enough as foragers and spread fear of a much larger, more threatening slave rebellion than the ones from earlier in the war with their movements. Yésaréyu's Italian allies pressured him to engage the Northern Romans sooner rather than later, compelling him to leave a 3,000-strong detachment to keep Milan under siege while he moved with the bulk of his army to confront Pendragon & his nephew at Verona to the east.

Yésaréyu had time to pick the battlefield, choosing for himself a place recorded simply as 'Campi di Verona' – a flat, open field where his cavalry would have maximal room to maneuver, and without much high ground for the Northern Romans to take advantage of – and to plan for his enemy's coming. He could not wait for his eldest son to come reinforce him and further even the numerical odds, for the latter was being tied down with constant back-biting attacks from the federates he'd failed to fully neutralize, and did not want to take the risk of waiting so long that he'd end up getting pinned against Milan's walls by the larger Aloysian army anyway; though he much desired to achieve a stunning victory over the Pendragons before that city just as the first Stilicho crushed their ancestor in the same place nearly 500 years prior, providence it seemed would deny him his desired symbolic battlefield just as it had once denied him the chance to fight on the Frigidus, so this 'field of Verona' would have to do. He had with him 22,000 men still, including some 5,000 horsemen (mostly African): outnumbered by the Northern Romans' own cavalry after they acquired reinforcements, but thought to be superior in quality.

At 28,000 strong the Northern Roman army was a good deal larger than the Southern Roman one, but it was a lumbering beast of a host and a good deal more heterogeneous in its composition, including contingents from Gaul & Britain to Poland and Bohemia. They had only recently arrived on this great field near Verona and were still in the process of forming up when Yésaréyu launched an immediate attack upon them, having massed his cavalry into a huge wedge aimed at their center before they could set up any ditches, stake pits or other field fortifications which had frustrated him before. Thinking quickly, Artur led the Northern cavalry in a counter-charge to meet the Southern Roman horsemen head-on and buy the majority of his troops time to properly prepare. In the furious mounted engagement which followed, once more the chivalry of Africa overthrew its counterparts from Northern Europe as they had in the early stages of the Battle of Kaborệdu – Pribislav, Radovid's second son, and the Polish prince Casimir were counted among the fallen – but the latter had put up a better fight and successfully staved off what would otherwise have been a fatal blow to their ranks: rather than being able to sweep the still-disordered and unprepared Northern Roman infantry from the field, when Yésaréyu's cavalry finally pushed through Artur's rearmost ranks of Lombard and Thuringian knights (considered the worst & least adept at horseback combat among the Teutons), they were driven back by orderly ranks of legions arrayed in dart-tossing shield-walls and supported by rows of South Slavic spearmen.

As the situation became disadvantageous to Yésaréyu, he considered retreating at first, but his scouts' report that the Northern Roman cavalry was not totally broken and in fact reforming around and behind their massed infantry formations persuaded him to switch to his Plan B instead of risking any retreat turning into a rout under enemy pressure. His infantry attacked in oblique order next, with an outsized right flank intended to crush the Aloysian left and supported by his own reformed cavalry wedge, while the weak Stilichian center and left were formed up diagonally in an echelon to delay their coming into contact with their northern counterparts – ordinarily not a bad move, and in fact a strategy recommended in many later Roman military texts (including Aloysius I's Virtus Exerciti) to make the best out of a situation where one's army is outnumbered. Unfortunately this knowledge was not denied to his enemies either: in the first occasion where the erudite but normally martially deficient Aloysius IV exhibited any battlefield aptitude of his own, the Northern Emperor had raised the threat of this very possibility to his uncle, who promptly planned his own countermeasures.

Thus when battle was rejoined, the Southern Roman right found the Northern Roman left to be stoutly reinforced by their reserves, and much of the surviving Northern cavalry to have rallied on this flank as well. The Northern Roman center (led by Radovid) and right, meanwhile, rushed forward to engage their counterparts among the Southern Roman army. Upon noticing the danger, Yésaréyu marched with his own reserve to his right's relief, but found the latter crumbling by the time he got there – even his own son Tolemeu had been slain, meeting Brydany of Dumnonia in combat for the third and final time, and neither asking for nor expecting quarter as both princes had sworn before. The Northern Romans were able to utilize their numerical advantage to the fullest, threatening to envelop the smaller Southern Roman army, and Yésaréyu's own choice of battlefield (while initially advantageous and even necessary for his Plan A) now worked against him as the terrain offered him no great defensive advantage in turn. By sunset, the Southern Romans had been routed and their Emperor fatally wounded by a British arrow while fleeing through an orchard, dying four days later by the shore of Lake Bennaco.

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The arrayed & ordered Northern Roman infantry line holds fast against Yésaréyu's cavalry attack, arguably the turning point of the Battle of Verona. Despite their growing reputation, the British longbowmen were actually not the deciding factor in making this moment possible, which was decided instead by the valor of the Northern Roman cavalry and the discipline & sheer numbers of their infantry

Now while the Southern Romans were at a serious disadvantage – their primary claimant dead, his army shattered, and with the weight of numbers (in Aloysian-aligned federates and rebels) pressing upon them from Spania to Italy – they theoretically could have kept fighting for longer still under Stéléggu, who was moving into Italy with a still-intact force after having defeated the armies of Blois and Aquitaine before they could combine (first ambushing the former near Orange by sailing up the Rhône, then scattering the latter in the Battle of Le Puy- Sainte-Réparade to the west). Indeed his mother suggested as much, fearing that the Aloysians (or rather her rival Arturia) would have them all killed if they yielded. However, events elsewhere changed Stéléggu's mind: namely, 904 also being a year of major Islamic advances on all fronts. Yésaréyu's requisitioning of troops from Africa proper to shore up his position in Italy left his brother Tanaréyu unable to hold back the advance of Al-Farghani, who finally smashed through the African defense at Oéa[16] and Sabrada[17] and also captured Lepcés Magna using siege weapons painstakingly assembled in Cyrenaica. With the Saracens now threatening Gardàgénu's environs, Stéléggu found himself compelled by the duty to guarantee his subjects' and family's safety to sue for terms the day after he reached Legnano, an offer which Aloysius IV took him up on despite his uncle Artur's eagerness to also keep fighting as Alexandra wanted and erase the memory of Claudius Constantine's defeat by the first Stilicho at Milan by vanquishing this latter-day descendant of the same name in the same place.

The Romans were faring no better out East, either. Alexander died of his injuries in Islamic captivity, leaving no heir – he had pledged to marry the Cappadocian noblewoman Irene of Tyana, but never got around to sealing this betrothal while he was still alive, much less father a son. Al-Turani's claim of extracting a peace settlement conceding Antioch, Armenia, Georgia and all lands up to the Halys from him right before he died was soundly denounced by all three Roman courts, which the Islamic generalissimo expected. Although Caliph Ubaydallah would actually have been fine with suing for peace in good faith at this time, Al-Turani just advanced right onward against the shaky remains of the Eastern Roman army under the Skleroi's command in hopes of pushing even further beyond that river, perhaps even Constantinople itself if he were feeling sufficiently daring. The Armenian kingdom, already badly exsanguinated between Hadamakert and the Skleroi's earlier crushing defeats at Al-Turani's hands, rapidly collapsed before the renewed Islamic offensive and Al-Sistani was freed from captivity by his mentor as a consequence.

Tbilisi too fell to a northern Islamic detachment, the Khosrovianni royal family joining the Mamikonians in a panicked flight to Constantinople, while Skleros had tried and failed to hold the green tide back in the Battles of Charsianon[18] and Anzen[19] and the Cilician Bulgars had made a valiant but ultimately futile last stand in the Cilician Gates, where they vainly waited for relief from the Skleroi in-between these defeats. With the Sclaveni (now reinforced by the Ruthenians) crossing the Danube in force and aggressively lashing out across Thrace & Macedonia in revenge for the Greeks' depredations against them at the start of hostilities, an anti-Skleroi faction (which had drafted a repentant Patriarch Photios as their leader) seized power in Constantinople toward the end of 904 and sought the forgiveness of whoever was winning in the Occident, which by that point was clearly Aloysius IV. Andronikos considered defecting to the Saracens and claiming Emperorship with their support at this point: fortunately for the Skleroi's posterity he died of old age before he could decide, unfortunately his grandson Duke Manuel was further clobbered by Al-Turani all next year.

A ceasefire mostly quieted fighting in the West throughout the early months of 905, giving Aloysius IV and Stéléggu a chance to negotiate an end to the fighting (and also allowing the former to see his beloved wife again for the first time since the civil war's outbreak, during which he not only hailed their firstborn for the first time in four years but also impregnated her with their second child). Arturia & Artur both insisted on pushing for a total victory and the removal or at least significant reduction of Stilichian power in Africa itself, believing that only a crippling blow (such as being removed from their office as the now-hereditary prefects of Gardàgénu, essentially evicting them from their own capital) would suffice to prevent them from ever rising against the House of Aloysius ever again. However Aloysius understood that such terms would be unacceptable and compel the Stilichians – who after all still had a few surviving field armies, even if they were in precarious positions, and heirs in the form of Stéléggu's young children, plus his uncle Tanaréyu and his offspring – to fight to the death, something which further risked losing the entirety of Africa to the surging power of Islam at this dangerous time, and so desired to find a happy medium between punishing the House of Stilicho and yet still managing to present terms which they could swallow.

The Emperor's solution was to peel off those territories which the Stilichians had amassed outside of Africa, where their prospects of continuing control were in serious trouble by now anyway, but not to push for concessions inside Africa itself. That meant returning Barcelona and the Tarraconensian kingdom's old territories to Aquitaine, conceding additional territories in northern & western Spania to Lusitania and setting the rest of their Spanish dominions free as a new 'Kingdom of Hispania' under the Theodefredings; the Africans also had to vacate the entirety of Italy, of course, and Corsica et Sardinia was to be divided – the smaller northern island was reassigned to the Prefecture of Gaul, while the larger southern one (being both geographically & culturally closer to Africa) was left in Stilichian hands. In exchange the Aloysians would prioritize defending Africa from the Saracens' onslaught, and leave the Stilichians in charge of that whole region from Mauretania to Libya as before rather than try to carry the war that far. Stéléggu, needing to extract himself from Italy and defend his home, grudgingly agreed to these demands, which were severe but could have been worse; Aloysius meanwhile had to hope that the Stilichians were sufficiently chastened this time, and that they would not exploit the mercy he had shown in letting them keep their African power-base to just rebuild and eventually go for another round against his descendants. Achieving this victory had already cost both sides almost twice as much time and more blood than the first Stilicho had needed to defeat both Claudius Constantine and the Senate, after all.

A peace settlement in the eastern provinces was more difficult to negotiate, as Aloysius had great difficulty in restraining the vengeful Serbs & Thracians from continuing to attack despite the ceasefire theoretically in place and the Greeks were certainly willing to fight back. The Balkan front had been more destructive to civilians & infrastructure than in the Occident, where the Aloysians and Stilichians generally agreed to concentrate on fighting each other in the field in order to avoid destroying the very lands they were waging war over and thereby kept the heaviest burden of loss on the actual soldiers, and deepened already-stewing grudges between the South Slavs on one hand and the Greek nation on the other. Fortunately for Aloysius, the rapidly mounting Islamic pressure on the other side of the Bosphorus went a long way to persuading his enemies here to cave rather than persist and bog him down in a lengthy struggle on decidedly difficult terrain and against strongly fortified cities. The Serbs and Thracians would get the lands they had contested with the Greeks, if they could just calm down and cease trying to pave a trail of blood & bones all the way to Athens for two minutes, the Ruthenians were to be rewarded with gold and silver from the treasury of Constantinople, and the remaining Eastern legions & their leaders (pro-Skleros or otherwise) west of the Bosphorus would live so long as they bent the knee, if only so they could be immediately enlisted into plans to fight the Saracens.

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After seven years of fighting, Aloysius IV could finally be properly crowned Holy Roman Emperor and solidify the empire's course under the Aloysians, unhampered either by a Stilichian reversal or a Greek-directed turn to the Orient

With the Northern Roman victory in this 'Seven Years' War' (though it had not been as absolute as the Pendragons may have desired) came the time for Aloysius to also reward his vassals, the main reason for his triumph other than his vastly more martially gifted generals. Indeed in their lamentations, African chroniclers blamed their defeat on not just Yésaréyu's inability to inflict a decisive defeat on Aloysius IV quickly enough but also on his failure to break up the coalition the latter and his Pendragon backers had amassed, resulting in him eventually going down like an elephant swarmed by ants as Alexandra had feared; if they had been more successful diplomatically, or struck a deadly blow against Aloysius IV in any of their Italian battles up to & including Verona, perhaps things would have gone much differently. Aloysius for his part got the easiest things out of his long way first: the Britons were already in the process of claiming their own reward and he had little more to do than back his cousin Brydany in locking down Brittany for his wife. Artur IX was elevated to the consular honor and securely took his place as his nephew's foremost counselor in matters of state. The long-suffering Pope Theodore, who was finally able to crown Aloysius IV in a suitably lavish Roman ceremony, was to be rewarded with the office of rector of Latium being merged into the Papacy: thereby extending Papal civil authority beyond Rome's walls to cover the rest of that province. And despite the Blois brothers' failures in southern Gaul, Estiene de Blois was rewarded with estates in the Orléanais region and the appointment of his younger sons as hereditary counts: his second son Bellon (Old Gal.: 'Bellaunos') was made Count of Champagne, and the youngest son Germain (Lat.: 'Germanus') returned to the Merovingians' ancestral homeland as Count of Flanders.

The Aquitanians, who had been more helpful in Gaul than the Blesevins, further asked for and acquired Toulouse & lands in the western Languedoc down to Septimania. The Germans, like the Britons, had already mostly claimed their reward well before the fighting was over – those among their number who had declared for the Stilichians early in the war and were then defeated had already lost lands & fortunes to their neighbors who remained faithful to the House of Aloysius. The Emperor also revealed his late father's plans for massive infrastructure projects that would benefit Germania – roads and clearances of woodland for settlement, to be sure, but most crucially and ambitiously a planned network of canals to greatly enhance travel between the North Sea to the Mediterranean – and pledged to follow through. This was sure to be an expensive and time-consuming endeavor, one that the Aloysians could only pray they'd be able to complete sometime in the next millennium, but Aloysius IV promised that he would strive mightily to at least complete its centerpiece within his lifetime: a two-kilometer canal in Bavaria stretching from Weißenburg-im-Nordgau[20] on the Schwäbische Rezat (which eventually fed into the Rhine, through the RegnitzàRednitzàMain Rivers) to Treuchtlingen on the Altmühl (a tributary of the Danube)[21].

As for the Sclaveni, Aloysius found that drawing up mutually agreeable schemes of rewards (which necessitated compromising between the Slavic principalities wherever two or more had competing claims) would be his greatest diplomatic challenge yet. Following through on his promise to update one foedus after another to acknowledge the Slavic states not as tribal principalities but kingdoms of legally equal stature to any found in Germania or the African one and apportioning them seats in the Senate turned out to only be the bare minimum he could do, and which they would accept. Radovid of Dulebia started things off by recommending that he be elevated to high kingship over all the South Slavs, combining all their kingdoms into a 'Yugoslavia' spanning most of the ceremonial Prefecture of Illyricum. Apparently he was serious, as he was surprised when Aloysius refused and even his daughter the Empress Helena did not support him for fear that none of the other South Slavs would accept such a proposal (and if by some miracle they did, this would effectively make him a mini-emperor of the Peninsula of Haemus – Aloysius owed his father-in-law much, but not that much).

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Elena Radovidova, recorded in imperial histories as 'Helena the Fair' to differentiate her from Rome's last empress of the same name in the time of Aloysius I, granting her father an audience. Besides being a source of consolation to her husband and mother to their children, she also oft dealt with the fractious Balkans in his name and moderated the excesses of her family when they got too greedy

Eventually the imperial couple were able to barter Radovid down to generous adjustments of his eastern border with Dacia, which after all had originally allied with Alexander, twice as many Senatorial seats as their neighbors, and plum appointments for all his younger sons – most notably Kocel', the son closest to them in age and Aloysius' best friend, was made Comes Domesticorum Equitum ('count of the household cavalry', commander of the elite imperial paladins), and their clerically-minded older brother Muntimir was made Bishop of Moyenz[22]. The Stilichians' Venetian ally was not subject to a sack as the Croats and Carantanians desired, but would be punished with the dismantlement of their league and the placement of its constituent cities under the authority of the Slavic kingdoms which had loyally fought for Aloysius: Pola & Crepsa to Carantania; Vikla, Traù and Spalato to Croatia, with the Istrian peninsula being divided overall between them and the Carantanians; and Dulcigno to Serbia alongside neutral Ragusa, which at least avoided having to pay any damages or risking a sacking. The Gots of Zividât and Padua also inched closer to Venice's landward defenses in the west as part of their own rewards, comprehensively setting the maritime republic's ambitions back by generations even if it had survived the Seven Years' War.

Finally, Aloysius made good on his wartime threat to free the (mostly Slavic) slaves of Venice's & Amalfi's markets as well as those of the Italian magnates who stood against him (while not moving against, say, Pisa's), not only because it was the only undertaking in this vein he could realistically mount at this early point – he had bigger plans but not the political or spiritual capital to pull them off, and knew it – but to rebuild the legions which had just bled themselves quite badly. Ironically, in the Stilichian vein Aloysius now had his pick of unemployed freedmen without many good prospects to recruit into all those vacancies in the legionary ranks, though he couldn't reward them with land of their own as the Stilichians did since seizing estates from those Italians would surely provoke them even further, probably right back into open revolt. The Serbs & Thracians had also freed many of their own kind during their rampage in Macedonia & Thrace, but these could not be kept track of in the chaotic circumstances of the Balkans and had mostly gone on to rejoin their families rather than enlist in Aloysius' ranks.

Though his victory cemented not just the Aloysians' grip on power but also the direction in which they had taken the Holy Roman Empire since the seventh century – an imperial federation held together by their persona, the Christian religion and a loose sense of Romanitas – Aloysius IV still had many problems. Among the biggest were achieving a real reconciliation with the former Southern and Eastern Romans, who he presently trusted as far as he could throw them and regarded him with similar sentiments; refilling the treasury after seven years of civil war and further payouts to his allies, which the Mediterranean economy was neither particularly able or willing to do, compelling him to look for ways to get the Ionian Church to open its extremely deep pockets; compensating said Mediterranean economy for having just dealt a blow to their economy by freeing thousands of slaves; finding, or rather recovering, land to settle both his freedman-legions' families and the refugees fleeing the Muslims on; and pushing back Muslim encroachment, which had pushed as far as Adrumedu[23] and Dorylaion this year. But in that regard, as he celebrated the birth of his second son Charles – whose name, meaning 'free man', was doubtless a very intentional choice on Aloysius' part in the context of what he'd done and still planned to do – the seed of his eventual answer to all these issues had already begun to germinate in his mind.

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Over the next years it would become increasingly clear to Aloysius what he needed to do in order to reunite Christendom in more than just name, push the Muslims back and find enough loot & land to replenish his coffers and (further) reward his faithful supporters all at once

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[1] Maniago.

[2] Pordenone.

[3] Lixus – Larache, Morocco.

[4] Sivas.

[5] Divriği.

[6] Portogruaro.

[7] Actually Lodi Vecchio, west of modern Lodi, which was historically only destroyed in 1111.

[8] Ticinum – Pavia, not to be confused with the modern Swiss canton of Ticino (which received that name in 1803). The name 'Pavia' was of Lombard origin, and thus would not have been used ITL where the Lombards never got into Italy.

[9] Lake Garda.

[10] Silvan, Diyarbakır.

[11] Qabala, Azerbaijan.

[12] Malazgirt.

[13] Ahlat, Van.

[14] Altzaghèna.

[15] Başkale.

[16] Oea – Tripoli, Libya.

[17] Sabratha.

[18] Akdağmadeni.

[19] Dazman.

[20] Weißenburg in Bayern.

[21] Mirroring the Fossa Carolina, Charlemagne's planned canal in the same area.

[22] Mogontiacum – Mainz/Mayence.

[23] Hadrumetum – Sousse, Tunisia.
 

shangrila

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Deus Vult time it is. It's always easier to find rewards for allies from lands conquered ("liberated") from a foreign foe. Land confiscations from domestic enemies generally drive more civil war.

The civil war ended sooner than I expected. I was actually predicting North and South fighting each other to a stalemate until Constantinople itself comes under siege, forcing a Great Council and that elective monarchy one keeps expecting from the name Holy Roman Empire.

Well, Northern victory means greater incentive for canals (the Venetians would absolutely hate them), which is my thing, so hey. . . And presumably the Greek fire monopoly for Constantinople is also going to go, so chemical experimentation? Back in that interlude for Andronikos talking about his plan to ruin the Venetians trying to steal Greek Fire, I actually assumed at first that he was going to give them a flawed recipe . . . which the Venetians turn into working gunpowder. Some of the hypothetical recipes for Greek Fire do involve saltpetre and sulfur.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
Ask not what you will from God, but what God wills from you. And God's will is profound, after all this christain on christian bloodshed it is time to put on the cross and do unto mohammedans.

The Balkan front had been more destructive to civilians & infrastructure than in the Occident


I'm sure that this is only a one time aberration and not a sign of things to come, with people letting bygones be bygones and not hold grudges in perpetuity.

combining all their kingdoms into a 'Yugoslavia'


Capital idea, too bad it wasn't carried out.

It's good to see that Elena has successfully taken the role of settling many court and diplomatic (even standing up to her father) matters while Aloysius is campaigning, there is going to be more of that as god wills Saracen smiting.
 

gral

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Deus Vult time it is. It's always easier to find rewards for allies from lands conquered ("liberated") from a foreign foe. Land confiscations from domestic enemies generally drive more civil war.
Agreed. Land reform is best done on your defeated foreign enemy's lands. I do think the early 900s are a bit early for a Crusade, though(closer to 1000 AD would be better timed to take advantage of the zeitgeist). The border between Islam and Christendom being closer to the Holy Land and Egypt, as well as an unified Roman Empire to back it means things are more dangerous for the Muslims here.
 

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