"Woke" Franchises

[CarlManvers2019]

What's amusing aboit that is it demonstratees thier own sexism. As they clearly feel to have a strong female. They must posses masculine traits. As if feminine wonen cant be strong. It's utterly ridiculous my mom and sisters are femine as hell. Yetstrong as iron. Hell my little sister is a Marine Corp Sergent (she maxed the make standard). Yet submissive to her husband and femine. I'd bet on her in a brawler with any feminists. Shit pisses me off.

It's not just behaviour, it's also appearance.....these looks please men, it's hard for REAL women to get those looks....an inferiority complex comes in.

Meanwhile, plenty of guys appreciate this guy

And most men will never get his looks, his muscles or even his strength of personality and fighting skill and power. Or that many lady-friends.

Yet they still like him and don't care too much about their inferiority

 

[Lanmandragon]

Well, to these people the only Strength a person can have is Power, and the only Power a person can have is direct physical Power.

They don't understand any power dynamic other than a boot on a chest, they think every single conceivable state of inequality must come down to that image.

They just want to be the Boot.

That's just sad because quite frankly women have always had more power. I mean think about it. You go to work all day and break your back. Then you brkng her the check and she takes care of your life. She raiees your son's to do the same. She instills that morality you hold into him. Then one day he goes out and finds(hopefully) a good woman sho dies ehat she did for you for him. Yet feminists want to give up this power. The power to build and form civilations. Its baffling to me.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

It's funny. The whole woke agenda kind of spoils things like powerful (in the physical sense) women, like Amazonian types. Not entirely, but now I cant just look at a Superwoman with feminine features alongside muscular features and appreciate what I'm seeing, I have to stop and think "uh oh, is this a red flag? Am I about to be preached at?" I cant watch a woman in a movie perform some stunt without thinking "This isn't just coming out of the art naturally, theres a weird political dint here".


Men find unusually tough and physical women interesting, actually. We always have, across many cultures.

 

[Lanmandragon]

It's funny. The whole woke agenda kind of spoils things like powerful (in the physical sense) women, like Amazonian types. Not entirely, but now I cant just look at a Superwoman with feminine features alongside muscular features and appreciate what I'm seeing, I have to stop and think "uh oh, is this a red flag? Am I about to be preached at?" I cant watch a woman in a movie perform some stunt without thinking "This isn't just coming out of the art naturally, theres a weird political dint here".


Men find unusually tough and physical women interesting, actually. We always have, across many cultures.

Strong women make strong sons. Atleast that's how I see it. My woman is strong if (God forbid) I pass beforeMMichael is a man. I know for a fact that his mother will ensure he grows to be a REAL man. That's the most important thing there is.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Men find unusually tough and physical women interesting, actually. We always have, across many cultures.

I'm pretty sure as far as the WOKEtivists are concerned, we only want "Stepford Wives" around

 

[Lanmandragon]

I'm pretty sure as far as the WOKEtivists are concerned, we only want "Stepford Wives" around

You mean hoes? Because we calledthem hoes. Broads that we're dumb and pretty. Good for pump snd dump not as wives. I need a woman who will tell me I'm being dumb when I'm being dumb. Why the hell would I want a slave?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

You mean hoes? Because we calledthem hoes. Broads that we're dumb and pretty. Good for pump snd dump not as wives. I need a woman who will tell me I'm being dumb when I'm being dumb. Why the hell would I want a slave?

Because we are "incels" who can't stand strong women

Though, doesn't explain why we liked characters like Red Sonja.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Because we are "incels" who can't stand strong women

Though, doesn't explain why we liked characters like Red Sonja.

I've been banging broads basically at will since 13. Turns out acting like a man turns women on. Truth is the folks that push this stuff. Are simply to weak and cowardly to control thier women. They can't admit that though because the truth hurts and is scary.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I've been banging broads basically at will since 13. Turns out acting like a man turns women on. Truth is the folks that push this stuff. Are simply to weak and cowardly to control thier women. They can't admit that though because the truth hurts and is scary.

They also probably hope that by lowering their standards of beauty that they may get some girls to approach them

Also, customers, hopefully if their heroines are not attractive, there would be more female buyers due to not serving an inferiority complex based on beauty and cute or sexy appearance

And in order to feel or say that their hobby has "grown up"

 

[Terthna]

I think I'm not the only one who's noticed the change in beauty standards

No offense, but that guy sounds like an absolute nutter. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend, especially if they're trying to convince you to buy into utterly insane conspiracy theories. Nihilism was not a secret plot to destroy truth and morality, and neither Friedrich Nietzsche nor Arthur Schopenhauer hated women; at least, no more than anyone else did in their day, and probably less, if you actually read what they had to say about them.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

No offense, but that guy sounds like an absolute nutter. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend, especially if they're trying to convince you to buy into utterly insane conspiracy theories. Nihilism was not a secret plot to destroy truth and morality, and neither Friedrich Nietzsche nor Arthur Schopenhauer hated women; at least, no more than anyone else did in their day, and probably less, if you actually read what they had to say about them.

It;'s okay, that said, I think he has a point about wanting to make women into men, as a sort of feeling of power even if there's something about femininity, both in character and beauty that's admirable

 

[Terthna]

It;'s okay, that said, I think he has a point about wanting to make women into men, as a sort of feeling of power even if there's something about femininity, both in character and beauty that's admirable

Of course he has a point there, because it's true; people are trying to make women more masculine in fiction. However, he's clearly trying to manipulate that truth into something that best proves his ideology correct.

 

[Lanmandragon]

It's not just behaviour, it's also appearance.....these looks please men, it's hard for REAL women to get those looks....an inferiority complex comes in.

Meanwhile, plenty of guys appreciate this guy

And most men will never get his looks, his muscles or even his strength of personality and fighting skill and power. Or that many lady-friends.

Yet they still like him and don't care too much about their inferiority

I think this is because men in general see something like that and see a goal. Basically "how do I get like that". Women in general see the female equivalent and think. "That bitch is to pretty. She lowers my sexual value". I'd also say alot of the "male" progressives. Are feminine enough in charecter that they'd react to Conan like a woman would. Basically far to much feminity for men and to much in culture/government. Masculinity needs to make a serious comeback or we're screwed.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I think this is because men in general see something like that and see a goal. Basically "how do I get like that". Women in general see the female equivalent and think. "That bitch is to pretty. She lowers my sexual value". I'd also say alot of the "male" progressives. Are feminine enough in charecter that they'd react to Conan like a woman would. Basically far to much feminity for men and to much in culture/government. Masculinity needs to make a serious comeback or we're screwed.

Gay for Conan....admittedly that’s completely understandable

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Oh wait, I read that wrong, that said I doubt they’re so willing themselves to at the very least appearance wise to “feminise” men....well not even in the attractive THICC TRAP way

I mean I doubt they want to make Male Characters fat or really lanky or in no way muscled or handsome, like that Steven Universe guy

Because women like those handsome men

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

The really incredibly irritating thing is how aggressive and dividing the woke school makes these topics. In truth, comics, fantasy, science fiction, video games, all of these are some of the most socially liberal forms of media for decades. First they act like this is not the case and that there pet projects are somehow islands of moral superiority in a sea of misogyny and bad thought. Basically taking a aggressive stance with everything they think is morally right and dividing fanbases that like these liberal leaning franchises for decades.

I used to not give a shit about the specifics of a story. Evil corporations, regressive religious orders, communist dystopias. These were just elements of a story and I didn't care who used what for what reason. Even if the writer had a particular social commentary in mind. I just liked the story if I liked the story.

Now I find myself caring about this culture war nonsense, and it irritates the heck out of me.

 

[Marduk]

I think this is because men in general see something like that and see a goal. Basically "how do I get like that". Women in general see the female equivalent and think. "That bitch is to pretty. She lowers my sexual value". I'd also say alot of the "male" progressives. Are feminine enough in charecter that they'd react to Conan like a woman would. Basically far to much feminity for men and to much in culture/government. Masculinity needs to make a serious comeback or we're screwed.

It would be a severe evolutionary maladaptation for guys to have an equivalent envious reaction about apparent physical capability of other guys.

Many thousands years ago:
"Hmm, what companions do i want to go hunting or raiding with...
Yeah, this guy looks like one hell of a fighter, if i can convince this guy to join, the party is more likely to not only come back alive but with plenty of nice stuff. So let's not be mean to him for no reason."

 

[Deleted member]

I thought she only got raised to be one, post-enslavement and maybe possibly due to being infertile.

Her people fought. Remember, the last couple of survivors did later. One has to assume considering the circumstances they were raised to it from birth, and I took such as implied.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

communist dystopias.

dividing fanbases that like these liberal leaning franchises for decades.

I don't remember seeing those Communist Dystopias that often, usually I think they just make fun of or use for "satire" whatever/whoever they can somehow lump in with Right-Wing Stereotypes.

I mean they've seemed to lump in Capitalism, Corporations, Homophobia, Transphobia, Islamophobia, (Religious Fundamentalist)Catholicism, Nazism, Fascism, Sexism together.

They managed to make that Left-Right Paradigm sorta unquestioned even before the Post-SJW-era

I think it was even those who were Liberal Leaning that were pro-fanservice before, sort of to "Stick It To The Man", now they're anti-fanservice for different reasons like society being sexist and wanting fan service so they have to "Stick It To The Man" a different way

 

[Big Steve]

Make her hair long again and I much prefer the costume to the right for Carol.

Will grant you She-Hulk, although that might also be artists wanting to make her look more brutalist in pictures. Batgirl just gets kinda trimmed down to waif. Which is not a new look for her.

....I actually vastly prefer the second costume there for Spider-Woman than the old skin-tight body-hugger. It looks more functional and almost secret agent-y. And given her history, that really fits.

I mean, sometimes this stuff is just a case of artists' personal foibles or style. Consider, say, how Bruce Timm is known for drawing characters versus Jim Lee or Michael Turner.

Because we are "incels" who can't stand strong women

Though, doesn't explain why we liked characters like Red Sonja.

Depends. Did you like any of the Red Sonja stories when she wasn't in a chainmail bikini that barely covered any skin? How about Howard's original Red Sonya, from his historic fiction who wore practical period garb, as I recall?

I mean I doubt they want to make Male Characters fat or really lanky or in no way muscled or handsome, like that Steven Universe guy

....if you're talking about the titular character, he's a child. And over the series he goes from pudgy to stocky to normal build since he starts training. (Plus there's that whole thing about being half-alien living gemstone).