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"Woke" Franchises

Iconoclast

Perpetually Angry
Obozny
I got into the fandom somewhere around early season 3. So yeah, it was around season 4 that the shipping quickly went from 'cute, occasionally weird but ultimately mostly harmless' to 'tumblr rainbow mafia shit'.
I hate having to come right out and say it, but it's a fact. Dudes watch shows like RWBY specifically to waifu the mains. If you throw in a yuri pairing late in the game, it's essentially a signal to the audience that those characters are no longer waifu material, that they are forbidden to you. That's a recipe for a massive shitfit from the fans, no matter what, and it is easily avoided by making it clear from the outset that you intend to do same-sex pairings. For instance, nobody gets into watching Utena thinking that anyone in that show is going to be even remotely straight.

I, personally, don't watch shows to fixate on the protagonists to that degree, nor do I personally give a shit about shipping, much less shipping wars, but a lot of people do, and I can tell you from experience, you can't spring shit on people. As a writer, you have to telegraph your intentions to the audience well in advance, not throw shit in at the eleventh hour, after people have invested their precious time into multiple seasons of your show.
 

Vyor

My influence grows!
Let's play a game, what popular videos games in the last 20 years have NOT been touched by woke?

Doom 3-Eternal, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, TF2, Counterstrike, the fallout games, GTA 4 and 5, uncharted series, legend of zelda series, pokemon, the bioshock games, sins of a solar empire, dark souls trilogy, demons souls, elden ring, cult of the lamb, half life 2 (including episodes) and half life alyx... mass effect trilogy... sonic mania... Overlord 1 and 2... crusader kings... hitman... one finger death punch...

Do you want me to go on? Cause there are a lot.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
I hate having to come right out and say it, but it's a fact. Dudes watch shows like RWBY specifically to waifu the mains. If you throw in a yuri pairing late in the game, it's essentially a signal to the audience that those characters are no longer waifu material, that they are forbidden to you. That's a recipe for a massive shitfit from the fans, no matter what, and it is easily avoided by making it clear from the outset that you intend to do same-sex pairings. For instance, nobody gets into watching Utena thinking that anyone in that show is going to be even remotely straight.

I, personally, don't watch shows to fixate on the protagonists to that degree, nor do I personally give a shit about shipping, much less shipping wars, but a lot of people do, and I can tell you from experience, you can't spring shit on people. As a writer, you have to telegraph your intentions to the audience well in advance, not throw shit in at the eleventh hour, after people have invested their precious time into multiple seasons of your show.
Gushing Over Magical Girls?

Show is fucking awesome, though it's kinda hilarious that the three main magical girls in it could pass for college students if they weren't specifically called out as being middle-schoolers (especially Azure and Sulfur).

But, yeah; you've got Kiwi gushing over Utena, who is just a BDSM porn addict; you've got Alice, who's an innocent kid but even then there were a few... off moments, like when she morphed herself into an "adult nurse" to cure Utena's cold; you've got those two defectors from Lord's faction, who were basically childhood friends-turn-lovers...

Oh, and let's not forget when Alice brainwashed Sulfur into thinking she was another one of her teammates' husband. :ROFLMAO:

The Yuri is strong in that show, but everyone who watches it knows what the show is about/its themes. This all wasn't just sprung on the audience.

Conversely, RWBY was a fucking mess from the get-go after Monty's death, with Sun being teased for Blake until he just, well, vanished, as an example. It went from a sismance (as in bromance) to outright Rainbow Tumour shipping shit, and it ultimately helped kill the show.

Hell, they even killed the slowly blooming Jaune/Ruby thing that was starting/building since Volume... Five, I think?
 

Scooby Doo

Well-known member
Doom 3-Eternal, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, TF2, Counterstrike, the fallout games, GTA 4 and 5, uncharted series, legend of zelda series, pokemon, the bioshock games, sins of a solar empire, dark souls trilogy, demons souls, elden ring, cult of the lamb, half life 2 (including episodes) and half life alyx... mass effect trilogy... sonic mania... Overlord 1 and 2... crusader kings... hitman... one finger death punch...

Do you want me to go on? Cause there are a lot.
Ehh isn't Elden Ring woke cause lots of transgender metaphors?
 

King Arts

Well-known member
Doom 3-Eternal, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, TF2, Counterstrike, the fallout games, GTA 4 and 5, uncharted series, legend of zelda series, pokemon, the bioshock games, sins of a solar empire, dark souls trilogy, demons souls, elden ring, cult of the lamb, half life 2 (including episodes) and half life alyx... mass effect trilogy... sonic mania... Overlord 1 and 2... crusader kings... hitman... one finger death punch...

Do you want me to go on? Cause there are a lot.
A lot of those games don’t have plot or story though so it can’t be woke. Also Mass Effect has quite a few woke stuff like lgbt.
 

LordDemiurge

Well-known member
But why do it in the first place?

I once went to a networking event/tour of a biotech company I prefer not to name. The speeches for the founders were pretty much entirely about DEI and helping 'underprivilegd groups'. I literally saw one of the founders brag that he was going to resign just his company's leadership will be more diverse to the cheers and applause of everyone in that room.

These people are ideologically captured or have given the levers to true believers who are. There is no profit motive or 4d chess move, they are simply doing what they believe is right or working to attain power that will further enable them to impose that right thing on everyone else.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Woke is a religion. It's the modern post-reformation Marxist religion sect.
Yup. It's a cult.

A self-destructive, utterly delusional cult which is going to be taken advantage of by our (the West) rivals and enemies (Middle-East/Islam, China, Russia).

If these people can't be deprogrammed (as in locked in a room and given the Moleman Treatment), they can't be saved. They'll self-destruct eventually, but the damage they'll do to everyone else e.g. taking us down with them is the problem.
 

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