Bidengate in which a meth head son and possible child abuser ruins your political grift

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Question is if anything will come of this. I hope at least this cost biden the election. ideally I want Trump to throw the book at him after he wins the election.
 
Tiamat said:
I doubt Guiliani gives a shit. This guy went after and took down the damn Mafia in NYC, for crissakes. Your typical mobster likes to use something a lot heavier than an egg on someone when they're pissed off...
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If he ever runs for NYC mayor again or anyone else that would use him as a consultant I'd be up for it especially if they use the slogan of make NYC Great Again.

He was the one that unfucked it before the Democrats fucked it.
 
Random Username said:
If he ever runs for NYC mayor again or anyone else that would use him as a consultant I'd be up for it especially if they use the slogan of make NYC Great Again.

He was the one that unfucked it before the Democrats fucked it.
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I honestly think that New Yorkers are honestly happier if their city is kind of shitty, remember how much people bitched and moaned about how they missed the 'old' new York when it was cleaned up and how much better it was when things were 'real' a lot of new Yorkers honestly missed the grime, missed the corruption, missed the crime.

They got what they wanted they have their old new York back now.
 
Cherico said:
I honestly think that New Yorkers are honestly happier if their city is kind of shitty, remember how much people bitched and moaned about how they missed the 'old' new York when it was cleaned up and how much better it was when things were 'real' a lot of new Yorkers honestly missed the grime, missed the corruption, missed the crime.

They got what they wanted they have their old new York back now.
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and yet they are still ticked off.
 
I have a question, and it may seem odd, but is there a possibility Hunter may have deliberately left that Labtop at the repair shop knowing it would be turned in? A way to escape the madness of his life with plausible deniability? Lord knows it certainly seems strange, but wow...I gotta wonder, ya know?
 
Spartan303 said:
I have a question, and it may seem odd, but is there a possibility Hunter may have deliberately left that Labtop at the repair shop knowing it would be turned in? A way to escape the madness of his life with plausible deniability? Lord knows it certainly seems strange, but wow...I gotta wonder, ya know?
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Given how he was being used as a bagman by his old man and uncle, on top of having at least one of his business partners disappear with tons of cash, and how he was already under investigation by the FBI for possible(now probable) money laundering related to those bagman activities...maybe.

It would kinda be the ultimate 'Fuck you' to his family.

Though the activities he was documented engaging in with his niece, and how coke can mess with your head, make me think he legit forgot it and just bought a new one without caring.
 
Hunter was into meth and has a history of fuck ups. If he I heard he sold his laptop to get money for meth while the contents were not wiped out I'd believe it. He's also a boomer.
 
Spartan303 said:
I have a question, and it may seem odd, but is there a possibility Hunter may have deliberately left that Labtop at the repair shop knowing it would be turned in? A way to escape the madness of his life with plausible deniability? Lord knows it certainly seems strange, but wow...I gotta wonder, ya know?
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I doubt he has remorse or fear. His addict's mind is so messed up, he probably just forgot it.
 
Spartan303 said:
Well, my thinking was, that, in his own way, he saw no way out and despised what he had become and just wanted a way out yet have plausible deniability for screwing over his family. Its a theory, nothing more.
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It's been established that his family is screwed up. I just doubt that he'd be repentant. He's been an addict for a long times and has committed/been an accessory to heinous crimes. Maybe this is divine intervention for his and his family's victims.
 
Fleiur said:
It's been established that his family is screwed up. I just doubt that he'd be repentant. He's been an addict for a long times and has committed/been an accessory to heinous crimes. Maybe this is divine intervention for his and his family's victims.
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Deep down there maybe SOME remorse and self hatred that’s drowned out by doing even more

A sort of moral sunk cost fallacy, he’s already crossed that horizon, there’s no going back

Hell, I believe that thing about how a number of Epstein Island goers may never have known about what was going on when they ended up on that plane and were sort of blackmailed into continuing the depravity

Sure they could have tried getting the truth out, but they were too cowardly or afraid to stop

It may not make what they did remotely acceptable, but you could see there’s more to them than what you’d think

I think this is in part why guys like Chris Hemsworth moved away from Hollywood, the nicer members of Hollywood may purposely stay the hell away from the rest as much as possible to avoid encountering the horrible shit that’s underneath
 
Random Username said:
freebeacon.com

Dem Rep Vouches for Biden Accuser's Character

Democratic congressman Ro Khanna is vouching for the character of Tony Bobulinski, the military veteran and former business associate of Hunter Biden who has taken center stage in the final weeks of the election.
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Cracks are forming.
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If Biden loses the knives come out, if he wins the knives come out.

Political realinments always end up as such.
 
Bacle said:
Ok, I am going to say as someone who grew up in a Hard-D household, you have blinders on and don't really realize it.

I get it, I really do.

If in 2013/2014 you'd have told me Trump was going to be POTUS and I would be glad for it and support him, I would have called you nuts.

But I ended up becoming friends with people who slowly pried those blinders off, by showing me sources outside the mainstream, and by destroying Dem narratives with facts and figures the media will not show or represent honestly.

I think part of what you are talking about is simply...you want pre-Trump 'normalcy' back, and you want your social circle to calm the hell down. This, frankly, speaks more to you as a person than to Trump as POTUS. I know what SV is like, I was there for a while before I was banned, and I can say that site is a Far-Left bubble par-excellence.

You cite things that, quite simply, are mostly not true or are media manipulations of events. Being mostly on SV and part of that bubble, you would not have seen contradicting info much, and Squishy would suppress that sort of stuff outright in many cases. You also come from a rather Hard-D area of the country from my knowledge of it, so you would not have been exposed to info/facts that counter the mainstream/Dem narrative much.

I will say the fact you are willing to come here and have this sort of discussion does show you have a more open mind than many in the Dems/on the Far-Left these days.
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So I say this sincerely, this is a very nice comment and I am happy to read it.

I am honestly pretty curious about the election when calmer about it. Most criticisms you bring up are, how should I put it, "symmetric" on both sides. Democrats and Republicans seem to be in differing segments of consensus reality. Both sides present facts and figures that strike me as cherry picked, deceptive, or biased. If one faction actually isn't committing those crimes (or is way cleaner on it) I sincerely think there's enough false information out there that it is hard to realize which side is right.

I noticed that my actual criticisms of Trump on this forum were surprisingly modest when I sat down and thought of it like "okay, what can I say that is relatively free of bias and emotion." I was talking to my father today about the "how do we know which side is right, since about half of us have to be wrong?" His answer was largely, and I don't think wrongly, "you have to use your intuition and logic." There's not really much else out there for normal people.

I'd say the biggest minus column in the Trump camp is probably the Never Trump Republicans. Such a massive fracture of the Republican elite that shares so much of liberal consensus reality despite what appears to be strong counter-incentives. Trump successfully retooled the GOP, and much of it failed to fall in line, which seems like a thing that fits the Democratic narrative better than the Trump Republican one. To specify which narrative:

Trump Republican (As filtered to me): The Never Trumper elites are a cozy network of selfish insiders who are terrified of social censure. These people are largely traitorous and afraid that their ability to benefit from corruption is over, and so bailed on the party.

Liberal media (as interpreted by me): The Republican factions that are splintering off are the ones that care about math such as fiscal conservatives, the military-industrial complex, business interests, and general intellectuals. Those who remain are the ones who rely on the Republican apparatus for their goals to work, such as Pro-Life groups, the conservative faction in the Culture War, and white people who want to retool the welfare state to serve their interests.

I'd note also that a lot of the intellectuals I've followed (Scott Alexander and the greater RationalSphere, a ton of economists, Peter Zeihan) who seem to be significantly divergent from the Democratic goals if not worldview, seem as terrified of Trump as anyone on the more traditional left. It might be that I see them as radically different from the SV wannabe Marxists due to being on the left and I've basically described the gap between violet and indigo as if it was indigo and yellow, but those seem like significant pieces of evidence to me.
 
WyldCard4 said:
I'd note also that a lot of the intellectuals I've followed (Scott Alexander and the greater RationalSphere, a ton of economists, Peter Zeihan) who seem to be significantly divergent from the Democratic goals if not worldview, seem as terrified of Trump as anyone on the more traditional left. It might be that I see them as radically different from the SV wannabe Marxists due to being on the left and I've basically described the gap between violet and indigo as if it was indigo and yellow, but those seem like significant pieces of evidence to me.
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Those folks belong to the class of people whose main identity is rooted in social status. A large portion of that self image is based on the idea that they are superior to the Deplorables. They are perfectly happy to give the deplorables healthcare, and praise them when they are off shooting the 'Enemies of Democracy' in some godforsaken shithole. But the idea that the deplorables might rise in status terrifies them. In their minds Trump is the Avatar of the deplorables and they cannot abide his being in power, as it threatens the very self image and identity of the White eloi class.
 
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