Bear Ribs
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Bullshit. Lemme quote from your own Wikipedia link.But the meme of "200 years of history" is true? Like if we go back 2000 years from now we'd be at the Han dynasty which was a Chinese dynasty and one of their golden ages. You even are talking about things from 1250BC which would be 3000 years ago.
Han dynasty - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
As for the argument that China only starts with the first dynasty the Qin. I mean that is an argument people can make. But would you make the same argument towards the Greeks? That Greece did not exist until 300 BC when Alexander conquered it? Then it fell apart and only with the later Byzantine empire was it actually a Greek nation, then that was taken over by Turks until the war of independence? Before that it was just city states who fought each other an Athenian is not a Spartan, is not a Cornithian. I mean I consider the Athenians, and Spartans and all that as Greeks, hell I consider the Myceneans and even the Minoans as Greek.
As for Mexico yes they can claim the history of the Aztecs, Maya, and Olmec civilization. I mean are we going to say that modern Egypt doesen't have a claim Ancient Egyptians. Or modern Greeks to Ancient Greece, or Italians, Spanish, French, Romanians, and Portugese to Rome? The French to the Celts, The modern Germans to the German barbarians?
EDIT: Oh and YUCK! CE and BCE is disgusting everyone who uses those terms should be kicked out of academia and publicly humiliated. It is AD and BC. The "common era" is Christ.
The archaeological evidence of human occupation of the area of modern-day Rome dates from about 14,000 years ago.
So this utterly and absolutely trumps your 3000 years ago and your bullshit claims that China predates or at least is in the same ballpark as the Roman empire.
China tries to improve its position in history by taking the approach that any random pottery shard from three thousand years ago is "Chinese" and proves their history is that long. Their approach to history is that everything in the region is "Chinese" and therefore all history in Asia, regardless of how it worked out or who ruled it, is "Chinese" history. It's not, the USA doesn't take a random pottery shard 3000 years old and say "This proves the USA is 3000 years old." They rightfully call the pottery Iroquois or Sioux or whichever actual group it belongs to. China alone takes an absurdist stance that the history of random warring tribes, invasions, and outsiders are all still always "Chinese" and thus they get to claim "2000 years of Chinese History" for stuff the Mongols, Koreans, or other groups did.