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Bear Ribs

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But the meme of "200 years of history" is true? Like if we go back 2000 years from now we'd be at the Han dynasty which was a Chinese dynasty and one of their golden ages. You even are talking about things from 1250BC which would be 3000 years ago.

As for the argument that China only starts with the first dynasty the Qin. I mean that is an argument people can make. But would you make the same argument towards the Greeks? That Greece did not exist until 300 BC when Alexander conquered it? Then it fell apart and only with the later Byzantine empire was it actually a Greek nation, then that was taken over by Turks until the war of independence? Before that it was just city states who fought each other an Athenian is not a Spartan, is not a Cornithian. I mean I consider the Athenians, and Spartans and all that as Greeks, hell I consider the Myceneans and even the Minoans as Greek.

As for Mexico yes they can claim the history of the Aztecs, Maya, and Olmec civilization. I mean are we going to say that modern Egypt doesen't have a claim Ancient Egyptians. Or modern Greeks to Ancient Greece, or Italians, Spanish, French, Romanians, and Portugese to Rome? The French to the Celts, The modern Germans to the German barbarians?


EDIT: Oh and YUCK! CE and BCE is disgusting everyone who uses those terms should be kicked out of academia and publicly humiliated. It is AD and BC. The "common era" is Christ.
Bullshit. Lemme quote from your own Wikipedia link.
The archaeological evidence of human occupation of the area of modern-day Rome dates from about 14,000 years ago.

So this utterly and absolutely trumps your 3000 years ago and your bullshit claims that China predates or at least is in the same ballpark as the Roman empire.

China tries to improve its position in history by taking the approach that any random pottery shard from three thousand years ago is "Chinese" and proves their history is that long. Their approach to history is that everything in the region is "Chinese" and therefore all history in Asia, regardless of how it worked out or who ruled it, is "Chinese" history. It's not, the USA doesn't take a random pottery shard 3000 years old and say "This proves the USA is 3000 years old." They rightfully call the pottery Iroquois or Sioux or whichever actual group it belongs to. China alone takes an absurdist stance that the history of random warring tribes, invasions, and outsiders are all still always "Chinese" and thus they get to claim "2000 years of Chinese History" for stuff the Mongols, Koreans, or other groups did.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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Ultimate irony is that the only reason why China grew larger was by the work of non-Chinese dynasties, and the Han chauvinist would often say that they expanded peacefully. Whenever a Han Chinese dynasty was in power, they didn't really do much territorial expansion on a large scale.
 

Vyor

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Chinese civilization begins during the second phase of the Erlitou period (1900 to 1500 BC), with Erlitou considered the first state level society of East Asia.[127] There is considerable debate whether Erlitou sites correlate to the semi-legendary Xia dynasty. The Xia dynasty (2070 to 1600 BC) is the first dynasty to be described in ancient Chinese historical records such as the Bamboo Annals,

So over 1000 years after Egypt, got it.

Rome is traditionally held to be founded in 753 BC. This may or may not be accurate since the founder is held to be King Romulus but again the Republic was made in the 500's.

I was indeed looking at the Republic.

The Aztecs were made in Europe's MEDIEVAL period again 1300 AD.

I was admittedly reading the source incorrectly. It was the Olmec that were pre-rome and, indeed, they lasted into the roman era(honestly depending on how you classify a civilization they went well after rome as well as one could argue that they merely evolved into the Classic Veracruz culture and, thus, the aztecs)
 

ATP

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So over 1000 years after Egypt, got it.



I was indeed looking at the Republic.



I was admittedly reading the source incorrectly. It was the Olmec that were pre-rome and, indeed, they lasted into the roman era(honestly depending on how you classify a civilization they went well after rome as well as one could argue that they merely evolved into the Classic Veracruz culture and, thus, the aztecs)
1.Egyt as cyvilization is dead,China crippled by Mao,but still alive.
So,older living cyvilization.

3.Olmecs could come from MiddleEast - we have bclack and white people /big heads and scriptures/ there.
And,some claim,that they were from China,too....
 

Zachowon

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1.Egyt as cyvilization is dead,China crippled by Mao,but still alive.
So,older living cyvilization.

3.Olmecs could come from MiddleEast - we have bclack and white people /big heads and scriptures/ there.
And,some claim,that they were from China,too....
The Chinese is not the same Chinese of ancient past.
 

ATP

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That isn't how that works.



This is so hilariously wrong I have to assume you're drunk.
1.Yes,it is.Crippled cyvilization could heal itself,destroyed one,like Egyptian,is dead and gone.
2.What? big stone heads of Africans? they exist.Just like sculptures of dudes looking like phoenicians.And even like chineese.
Although,becouse there never was black people in China,i doubt tat.

The Chinese is not the same Chinese of ancient past.
Just like you are not american from 1776.

ATP…exists on his own plain of existence I think. It’s a very strange place.
If you belive so...well,whatever made you fell better.
 
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Zachowon

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1.Yes,it is.Crippled cyvilization could heal itself,destroyed one,like Egyptian,is dead and gone.
2.What? big stone heads of Africans? they exist.Just like sculptures of dudes looking like phoenicians.And even like chineese.
Although,becouse there never was black people in China,i doubt tat.


Just like you are not american from 1776.


If you belive so...well,whatever made you fell better.
My country is the same America from 1776...
 

King Arts

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1.Yes,it is.Crippled cyvilization could heal itself,destroyed one,like Egyptian,is dead and gone.
2.What? big stone heads of Africans? they exist.Just like sculptures of dudes looking like phoenicians.And even like chineese.
Although,becouse there never was black people in China,i doubt tat.
Egyptians aren't dead and gone, neither are Greeks.
 

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Ultimate irony is that the only reason why China grew larger was by the work of non-Chinese dynasties, and the Han chauvinist would often say that they expanded peacefully. Whenever a Han Chinese dynasty was in power, they didn't really do much territorial expansion on a large scale.
This isn't really true. The Han Dynasty, Jin Dynasty, and Tang Dynasty, all ethnic Han dynasties, saw considerable expansion of "China". That said, the modern shape of China was heavily influenced by the Yuan and Qing Dynasties, which were not ethnically Han (the first being Mongol and the second being Manchu). The interesting thing to note was that that the last ethnic Han dynasty to unify China was the Tang, when the Tang fell no ethnic Han state managed to unify China, and it took the Yuan to reunify it. The Ming inherited the unified China from the Yuan (who didn't even last 100 years), and ruled for just under 300 years, and then were supplanted by the Qing who also ruled for just under 300 years before falling themselves. The current Mao Dynasty hasn't reclaimed all the territory of the Qing, which is a sore spot, though some of that territory, like Mongolia, was not really a part of China until the Yuan dynasty.
 

Bassoe

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You do remember the folks in DC bragging about 'sourcing any expeditionary forces' from red states a few years back, right?
Actually I missed that one, though I believe it, seems in character for them. Got any links?
 
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Bacle

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Actually I missed that one, though I believe it, seems in character for them. Got any links?
No, it was something that...I'm not sure when exactly it was, may have been as far back as 2016 during Trump's first run, but I definitely remember it being a thing that happened before 2020.

May have even been way back on SB somewhere, not finding anything via DDG.

IIRC, it may have even been in one of Project Veritas's early scoops.

Edit: It was more a of passing line in a larger piece, not the focus of the article/piece itself, but was a very illustrative mask-slip.
 

Zachowon

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This isn't really true. The Han Dynasty, Jin Dynasty, and Tang Dynasty, all ethnic Han dynasties, saw considerable expansion of "China". That said, the modern shape of China was heavily influenced by the Yuan and Qing Dynasties, which were not ethnically Han (the first being Mongol and the second being Manchu). The interesting thing to note was that that the last ethnic Han dynasty to unify China was the Tang, when the Tang fell no ethnic Han state managed to unify China, and it took the Yuan to reunify it. The Ming inherited the unified China from the Yuan (who didn't even last 100 years), and ruled for just under 300 years, and then were supplanted by the Qing who also ruled for just under 300 years before falling themselves. The current Mao Dynasty hasn't reclaimed all the territory of the Qing, which is a sore spot, though some of that territory, like Mongolia, was not really a part of China until the Yuan dynasty.
Yep.
But the Chinese want to reclaim all that was ever thiers
 

ATP

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My country is the same America from 1776...
Then why you support lgbt deep state maniacs who did notching when BLM mobs burned USA cities ?
Americans from 1776 would schoot all of them long ago.

Egyptians aren't dead and gone, neither are Greeks.
Egyptians as people still exist - BUT,they are speaking arabic muslims who belong to arab cyvilization.
Just like palestinians still exist as people,but their cyvilization is gone.

Greeks - they are orthodox now,and orthodox Christians have its own cyvilization,too.
Which have little to do with dead greek cyvilization.

We,people of Western Cywilization created by catholics chrch from greek,roman and jewish parts,are more greek then they are.
 

Zachowon

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Then why you support lgbt deep state maniacs who did notching when BLM mobs burned USA cities ?
Americans from 1776 would schoot all of them long ago.


Egyptians as people still exist - BUT,they are speaking arabic muslims who belong to arab cyvilization.
Just like palestinians still exist as people,but their cyvilization is gone.

Greeks - they are orthodox now,and orthodox Christians have its own cyvilization,too.
Which have little to do with dead greek cyvilization.

We,people of Western Cywilization created by catholics chrch from greek,roman and jewish parts,are more greek then they are.
That...isn't how that works.
Our government is at the base the same. We have not become a separate country
 

ATP

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That...isn't how that works.
Our government is at the base the same. We have not become a separate country
Really? then ,tell me,did such thing like Federal reserve existed in 1776?
Or,maybe they tried to support poor families? or made federal education?

Your goverment is parasite which eat old USA,not USA.
 

King Arts

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Then why you support lgbt deep state maniacs who did notching when BLM mobs burned USA cities ?
Americans from 1776 would schoot all of them long ago.


Egyptians as people still exist - BUT,they are speaking arabic muslims who belong to arab cyvilization.
Just like palestinians still exist as people,but their cyvilization is gone.

Greeks - they are orthodox now,and orthodox Christians have its own cyvilization,too.
Which have little to do with dead greek cyvilization.

We,people of Western Cywilization created by catholics chrch from greek,roman and jewish parts,are more greek then they are.
Hahahaha sorry but that’s wrong the Eastern Orthodox Church has more ties to Greek culture than the Catholics do heck some remnants of Ancient Greek religion cultural practices and food and the like was christianized

Catholics don’t have that for example.
 

Vyor

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Really? then ,tell me,did such thing like Federal reserve existed in 1776?
Or,maybe they tried to support poor families? or made federal education?

Your goverment is parasite which eat old USA,not USA.

Are you actually chinese or...
 

ATP

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Hahahaha sorry but that’s wrong the Eastern Orthodox Church has more ties to Greek culture than the Catholics do heck some remnants of Ancient Greek religion cultural practices and food and the like was christianized

Catholics don’t have that for example.
Food and language.
When catholic Church,which made Western cyvilization,take Aristotle philosophy.
And only thanks to that we could create Science.

When Orthodox,who hold to Plato,create nothing.Catholic Church did it till 12th Century,too - but then we take Arstotle.

Our entire cyvilization is possible thanks to him,and Saint Thomas great work of making his teaching modern for his times.
 

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