You do realize that bigger number means older for BC, right?
Are you really asking something so stupid? Obviously BC counts down, while AD goes forward. No what I'm saying is that when one goes far back into the mists of time history fades into legend, and legend fades into myth. We don't have accurate documents like now we know about 9/11 we have some sources and fragments of the past but that is still a margin of error where decades are accurate, hell a century or two of a margin of error is not that bad.
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Egyptian civilization begins during the second phase of the Naqada culture, known as the
Gerzeh period, around 3500 BC and coalesces with the unification of Upper and Lower Egypt around 3150 BC
The Indus Valley Civilization starts around 3300 BC with what is referred to as the Early Harappan Phase (3300 to 2600 BC).
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Later, Yangshao culture was superseded by the
Longshan culture, which was also centered on the Yellow River from about 3000 to 1900 BC, its most prominent site being
Taosi.
[124] The population expanded dramatically during the 3rd millennium BC, with many settlements having
rammed earth walls. It decreased in most areas around 2000 BC until the central area evolved into the
Bronze Age Erlitou culture. The earliest bronze artifacts have been found in the
Majiayao culture site (3100 to 2700 BC).
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Chinese civilization begins during the second phase of the
Erlitou period (1900 to 1500 BC), with Erlitou considered the first state level society of
East Asia.
[127] There is considerable debate whether Erlitou sites correlate to the semi-legendary
Xia dynasty. The Xia dynasty (2070 to 1600 BC) is the first dynasty to be described in ancient Chinese historical records such as the
Bamboo Annals,
I'm not considering the neolithic period as that's stone age.
Yes. Almost 500 years before.
Which is what the BC means. Before Christ's Sacrifice(not exact words, but that's what the latin translates to).
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Ok you might be historically illiterate. Rome is traditionally held to be founded in 753 BC. This may or may not be accurate since the founder is held to be King Romulus but again the Republic was made in the 500's. So at least 100 years for kings let's say 600 BC. Rome existed at least 600 years before Christ. The Aztecs were made in Europe's MEDIEVAL period again 1300 AD. AD stands for Anno Domini in the year of our lord. Oh and no most nations use BC for before Christ the Latin term is Ante Christum Natum. Not before his sacrifice before his birth. The Aztecs were not around before Christ, hell they aren't even around before Charlamagne, or the start of the crusades. I know wikipedia is a poor source, but the greatest source of all Age of empires even vindicates this.lol
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And the fuck is the West going to do to them?
Being butthurt at the West just because of stuff that happened centuries ago while they are threatened with actual warfare by China, conflict against which the West is also thinking about, is in fact the height of idiocy.
Because they aren't idiots who think the west are "just good boys who dindu nuthin wrong" If they let the west go strong and be dominants they would be the biggest dumbasses. They would know that the West looks down on them and would be going after them after Russia, China, and the Arabs are done.
Nice deflection. We weren't talking about niche food industries, world powers aren't built on cheese trademarks, we were talking about high end electronics and their massive economic and military value.
Not really deflection, we are talking about trade. You are using neoliberal arguments where "muh free market, all regulations bad" arguments. I just brought up examples that no regulations are good. Now sure there is such a thing as over regulation, but you have to show that a specefic regulation is bad or burdensome not just say "Oh we should just let companies do whatever."
China's "Formation" is basically a matter of arbitrarily drawing a line, China tends to do everything they can to inflate their own age. "2000 years of Ancient Chinese History" is an anime meme for a reason, along with "Ancient Chinese Maps."
The oldest extant writings are from 1250 BC. China as an actual nation, as opposed to a cluster of nation-states constantly warring with each other, didn't happen until 221 BC under Qin Shi Huang. Of course, that fell apart around the 100s CE* and they went through another period of warring city-states that didn't unite again until around 600 CE. Calling China older than that is basically as legit as claiming that Mexico as a nation is thousands of years old because the Aztecs, Mexica, and Olmecs lived there and claiming there's some continuity of government.
Which China does, for themselves anyway, of course.
*It is, of course, badwrong to use AD in your dates.
But the meme of "200 years of history" is true? Like if we go back 2000 years from now we'd be at the Han dynasty which was a Chinese dynasty and one of their golden ages. You even are talking about things from 1250BC which would be 3000 years ago.
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As for the argument that China only starts with the first dynasty the Qin. I mean that is an argument people can make. But would you make the same argument towards the Greeks? That Greece did not exist until 300 BC when Alexander conquered it? Then it fell apart and only with the later Byzantine empire was it actually a Greek nation, then that was taken over by Turks until the war of independence? Before that it was just city states who fought each other an Athenian is not a Spartan, is not a Cornithian. I mean I consider the Athenians, and Spartans and all that as Greeks, hell I consider the Myceneans and even the Minoans as Greek.
As for Mexico yes they can claim the history of the Aztecs, Maya, and Olmec civilization. I mean are we going to say that modern Egypt doesen't have a claim Ancient Egyptians. Or modern Greeks to Ancient Greece, or Italians, Spanish, French, Romanians, and Portugese to Rome? The French to the Celts, The modern Germans to the German barbarians?
EDIT: Oh and YUCK! CE and BCE is disgusting everyone who uses those terms should be kicked out of academia and publicly humiliated. It is AD and BC. The "common era" is Christ.
