Russians when a country loses a war:
The Armenians will get to elect their regional governor, right? Right?
Russians when a country loses a war:
TLDR : The Prime Minister of Armenia managed to piss off everyone politically.
Everyone is a propagandist to you....It is quite more informative if you would add the context.
Patrick Lancaster
Independent (working for Russian state) Journalist
The very fact that people like him are made to be present there and are saying what they are saying has certain extra meaning in light of his... history and connections.
It means Russia is in fact taking the initiative to do some kind of psychological warfare stuff in favor of own interests there, if they are deploying mercenary propagandists specialized in addressing western audiences.
You have a track record, one that can be summed into "Muh Russiiaaaa...!!!!"Russian state meddling in what it considers its sphere of influence, yeah, sure, i'm the conspiracy theorist here.
He does work for Russian state owned media and is unapologetically supporting Russian state agenda while doing so. If that doesn't make him a propagandist, i don't know how can someone be a propagandist at all.Everyone is a propagandist to you....
How convenient of you to bring up my track record, while not speaking a word about your own...You have a track record, one that can be summed into "Muh Russiiaaaa...!!!!"
The fucking annoying diaspora is an asset that can be exploited, for annoying western countries.What do they have to gain by meddling in this cluster fuck, exactly?
And I am saying this as someone who is actually pro-Azerbaijan in this conflict.(because I want Turkye to be overstretched further and become even less palatable to the west) and because I don't give a shit about Armenia.
Since we already spoke on this with @TheRejectionist
I will sum up my rationale.
Azerbaijan has:
1) 5x the armenian population and maybe 2-3x the territory.
3) Significant natural resources we want.
4) Is a larger potential market.
5) Someone we are becoming more dependent on for energy.
Armenia has:
1) Less of everything.
2) No strategic resources we want or need.
3) A fucking annoying diaspora that has produced some pushers of liberast nonsense.
4) Ararat Brandy is nice, but them getting a shellacking might lower the export price.
I want Turkey overstretched, I want it turned into a paryah among the west, so, I am fine rooting for the Azeri long distant cousins, after all both them and the Bulgars were turcic tribes.
In light of all the oil/gas extraction and route politics deals Azerbaijan and Turkey are involved in, and also recent close relations between Russia and Iran, there's no way Russia can afford to not take part in this clusterfuck, the only question is where exactly will Russia stand in this clusterfuck.But this is one clusterfuck I do not think Russia will want any part in, not since Iran and the Turks have something of a history, however the one problem is that they have treaty obligations with the Armenians due to the CSTO, so whatever happens it will be a loss of prestige for them.
Fine provide the "truth" from a NATO/USA paid reporter, then.
When Russia stops scheming with Germans behind our backs and you stop hiding behind Russia and start fighting your battles with Turks and Greeks and so on yourself, lawl, nothing's fair in love and war, if you don't like your enemies having alliances, tough luck.At this point I am in favor in staying in the so called defensive alliance just to spite you, lol.
Besides, we might manage to use it to fuck with the Turks the way you wanna use it to fuck with Dem damned dirty Muskovite Johns.
When are you gonna stop hiding behind it and start fighting your own battles on your own?
Not randomly, maliciously and with some forms of perceived overt or covert self-interest.Yup, because Ree, Putler is a mustache twirling villain that just randomly decides to do stuff one day cause he could not get it up.
While both Turkey and Greece are NATO members...Yaay, anti-Russian chiwawa baltostani paid press.
I don't care about their copium and wishful thinking about pulling a small, land locked shithole devoid of anything useful.
An alliance we are in....
And also, I did say I would be happy to ally with Turkey against Greece earlier in the thread.
Unlike other bureaucracies, it's the countries that are not in it that whine the hardest about its expansionHurr-durr.
Then it was about terrorism...
And it has always advertised itself as a mutual defensive alliance.
But ultimately it is just an ever expending bureaucracy.
>getting into this messAnd him getting into this mess in the middle now would help him...how...
This is about Armenia vs. Azerbaijan, can you stop spamming the thread with your Russia obsession and NATO fetish and stay on topic, thanks!
Choke on your own words. Also quite telling of how much you give a damn about what's relevant to the topic when Russian troops are officially, as peacekeepers, present on territory of both these countries, and one of them is in an alliance with Russia. But nope, don't mention Russia, totally nothing to do with the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, are you for real?Yeah, yeah, Putler/Evil Ivans are behind everything, even when Sloppy Joe can't lift it when he is abusing another underage girl, we know!
Opinion noted and into the trash it goes, did you have anything useful to add to the discussion or was it just you taking an opportunity to whine about me accusing saintly and innocent Russia who never does anything wrong of being involved in a conflict even though it has troops in the countries involved and everyone serious discusses how involved it is?To summarize.
>Ree, muh Russia.
You are not providing anything actually useful to this discussion.
Just bitching about Dem evil Russkies.
I personally don't see these two "potential" truths cancelling each other out
If your speculation is that Turkey and/or Azerbaijan can threaten Iran
Since somebody decided to move the other post where I am responding to this nonsense and it is relevant to the subject.Opinion noted and into the trash it goes, did you have anything useful to add to the discussion or was it just you taking an opportunity to whine about me accusing saintly and innocent Russia who never does anything wrong of being involved in a conflict even though it has troops in the countries involved and everyone serious discusses how involved it is?
Russia protests to Armenia as tensions rise over disputed Caucasus region
Russia summoned the Armenian ambassador on Friday to present a protest about what it deemed "unfriendly steps" as tension in the South Caucasus surged over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh.www.reuters.comWhat the hell are Russian diplomats doing interjecting in the conflict in which they are totally not involved in and only Russia obsessed Polish conspiracy theorists think they have anything to do with?Russia accuses Azerbaijan of violating ceasefire agreement with Armenia
Russia on Saturday accused Azerbaijan of violating the Moscow-brokered ceasefire that ended the 2020 war with Armenia, by letting its troops cross over the demarcation line.www.france24.com
No one else cares about the autistic spaghetti circlejerk y'all have going on...
Anyways... things are actually happening in Artsakh that are probably of more substantial interest.
There was a major gas explosion with casualties reported in the dozens if not hundreds, near Stepanakert.
Russian Peacekeepers are helping in treating many of the casualties.
Due to the blockade and other recent events there is still very limited medical supplies and capability within Artsakh plus evacuating casualties via the Lachin Corridor is rather problematic due to the hours long traffic jam recently reported there.
Am I alone in thinking history will see this as among the first shots of renewed Azeri and Armenian conflict?
So much for the “End of History”…again…
No one believes that shit, lol, even Fuckuyama backpedaled so hard you'd think it would solve the planter's energy needs.Am I alone in thinking history will see this as among the first shots of renewed Azeri and Armenian conflict?
So much for the “End of History”…again…