Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

Skallagrim said:
If only.

Turning dead terrorists into zombie shock troops and sending those to slaughter their still-living compatriots would be both efficient (it spares your own men) and awesome (few tactics could be more discouraging to suicide-terrorists).
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That'd be a good horror game and pretty cathartic to go Doomslayer on Palestinian terrorists, I think.
Navarro said:
A mass grave containing 80 bodies was recently discovered in the courtyard of the Shifa hospital, two or three bodies have already been identified as hostages and the rest are being taken by IDF for further examination.

Ofc. "pro-Palestinians" online are claiming these are bodies of Palestinians being "stolen" by Israel for reasons ranging from being used for organs (impossible w/ how long they've been decaying) to creating golems.
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Fucking knew it deep down inside. :( There's zero doubt those are the hostages, abducted civilian Israelis when the Palestinian "civilians" rushed through after Hamas like a mob of starving rats, and the party goers from that festival that were abducted en-masse by the militants.

sigh The hostage negotiations froze because they have no hostages to exchange.

As for the pro-Palestinians online? They can drink bleach, fuck off, and die in a ditch.
 
Skallagrim said:
If only.

Turning dead terrorists into zombie shock troops and sending those to slaughter their still-living compatriots would be both efficient (it spares your own men) and awesome (few tactics could be more discouraging to suicide-terrorists).
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The Palastians keep doing everything they can to get a total war, what will they do when they actually get it?
 
Cherico said:
The Palastians keep doing everything they can to get a total war, what will they do when they actually get it?
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When and if they ultimately do get it, they will mostly die. These so-called Palestinians are just the dregs of the Arab world, useful to their supposed kinsmen (and other religious confederates, e.g. the Iranians) only as proxies. Once things escalate in the region and everybody has more pressing priorities, literally nobody will care about this specific cohort of Arabic squatters.

After all, if their fellow Arabs cared about them as humans, they'd have absorbed them long ago. Egypt would open the borders in Arabic solidarity. But no. After their failed wars of agression against Israel, the Arab nations have categorically refused to absord the expelled Arabs. They even invented a nationality ("Palestinians") to set them apart. They deliberately created a refugee crisis in this way; one that persists until the present.

This could and should all be ended by just sending all the Arabs across the border into Arabia, so that even the fiction of a "Palestine" cannot be maintained, and the so-called "Palestinians" just become recognised as what they are: Arabs among other Arabs.

But it seems that this more humane solution is not going to be enacted, and that it will instead come down to the knife-choice that defines all problems that have been left to rot for too long. Recent events show all too well that the Arabs will never choose peace.

And so it shall be war, until the matter is solved permanently. And because the most humane and desirable solution -- expulsion -- is constantly rejected, the less humane and less desirable option -- extermination -- becomes ever more likely. The only question is who will do the exterminating, and who gets exterminated.

That's the bitter reality of problems that aren't decisively solved in time. They still get solved; but with the sword, instead of the scalpel.
 
Skallagrim said:
When and if they ultimately do get it, they will mostly die. These so-called Palestinians are just the dregs of the Arab world, useful to their supposed kinsmen (and other religious confederates, e.g. the Iranians) only as proxies. Once things escalate in the region and everybody has more pressing priorities, literally nobody will care about this specific cohort of Arabic squatters.

After all, if their fellow Arabs cared about them as humans, they'd have absorbed them long ago. Egypt would open the borders in Arabic solidarity. But no. After their failed wars of agression against Israel, the Arab nations have categorically refused to absord the expelled Arabs. They even invented a nationality ("Palestinians") to set them apart. They deliberately created a refugee crisis in this way; one that persists until the present.

This could and should all be ended by just sending all the Arabs across the border into Arabia, so that even the fiction of a "Palestine" cannot be maintained, and the so-called "Palestinians" just become recognised as what they are: Arabs among other Arabs.

But it seems that this more humane solution is not going to be enacted, and that it will instead come down to the knife-choice that defines all problems that have been left to rot for too long. Recent events show all too well that the Arabs will never choose peace.

And so it shall be war, until the matter is solved permanently. And because the most humane and desirable solution -- expulsion -- is constantly rejected, the less humane and less desirable option -- extermination -- becomes ever more likely. The only question is who will do the exterminating, and who gets exterminated.

That's the bitter reality of problems that aren't decisively solved in time. They still get solved; but with the sword, instead of the scalpel.
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The arab culture was born in war I suppose its ironic it will likely die in war.
 
Skallagrim said:
When and if they ultimately do get it, they will mostly die. These so-called Palestinians are just the dregs of the Arab world, useful to their supposed kinsmen (and other religious confederates, e.g. the Iranians) only as proxies. Once things escalate in the region and everybody has more pressing priorities, literally nobody will care about this specific cohort of Arabic squatters.

After all, if their fellow Arabs cared about them as humans, they'd have absorbed them long ago. Egypt would open the borders in Arabic solidarity. But no. After their failed wars of agression against Israel, the Arab nations have categorically refused to absord the expelled Arabs. They even invented a nationality ("Palestinians") to set them apart. They deliberately created a refugee crisis in this way; one that persists until the present.

This could and should all be ended by just sending all the Arabs across the border into Arabia, so that even the fiction of a "Palestine" cannot be maintained, and the so-called "Palestinians" just become recognised as what they are: Arabs among other Arabs.

But it seems that this more humane solution is not going to be enacted, and that it will instead come down to the knife-choice that defines all problems that have been left to rot for too long. Recent events show all too well that the Arabs will never choose peace.

And so it shall be war, until the matter is solved permanently. And because the most humane and desirable solution -- expulsion -- is constantly rejected, the less humane and less desirable option -- extermination -- becomes ever more likely. The only question is who will do the exterminating, and who gets exterminated.

That's the bitter reality of problems that aren't decisively solved in time. They still get solved; but with the sword, instead of the scalpel.
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So Middle Eastern Morgenthau Plan?
 
TheRomanSlayer said:
So Middle Eastern Morgenthau Plan?
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Seems like it. Though I’d say the Arab world deserves it more then Germany ever did.

Let’s be honest, if the Arab would had had the technology/organizational skills, they would have done a Holocaust-style genocide a long time ago. As it was the scum did a pretty solid job at wiping out the Armenians.
 
DarthOne said:
Seems like it. Though I’d say the Arab world deserves it more then Germany ever did.

Let’s be honest, if the Arab would had had the technology/organizational skills, they would have done a Holocaust-style genocide a long time ago. As it was the scum did a pretty solid job at wiping out the Armenians.
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That was the Turks and some Kurdish tribes that exterminated the Armenians in 1915.
 
Marduk said:
Also EU.
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One, against the many organized by Daesh, which was backed EU "allies" .
Marduk said:
And Ukraine.
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Sure, the clown country run by a sellout globalist comedian. Give me a break.
Marduk said:
And USA, currently by terrorism and US forces and allies in ME, and possibly US mainland itself.
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Attacking US forces that were supposed to not be there to begin with because of a lie and are still there because Trump got lied to? And how is it supposed to be a negative thing that US bases are attacked repeatedly since the US (and occasionally UK and France) has been doing that around anywhere the elites wanted it?
Also this is the same agency that had actively censored any supposed conflict of interest they had with Klaus Schwab WEF and covered big Pharma during the almost three years of COVID. Most things that are reported by them are skewed at best if not outright fabricated or embellished to make their backers look good.
Not to mention, it would be a net positive if someone actually and actively interfered in US affairs and got a bit of karma back at the elites in Washington.
The only governments that could be considered active and actual menace to the Middle East are the United States and it's main "ally" Israel, as it has been for the past 75 years.
Marduk said:
So finally stop shilling for the interests of Shia Islamism, you're not Shia, and they don't even like you.
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I am not shilling for anyone here unlike you.
 
DarthOne said:
Seems like it. Though I’d say the Arab world deserves it more then Germany ever did.

Let’s be honest, if the Arab would had had the technology/organizational skills, they would have done a Holocaust-style genocide a long time ago. As it was the scum did a pretty solid job at wiping out the Armenians.
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Yeah gotta agree with @TheRomanSlayer it was the Turks and some Kurdish tribes that partecipated in it. There are some very good articles on how Arabs did help a lot of the Armenians, with the head of the soon to be ruling Hashemite dynasty issuing a religious order to ask the faithful to help them as much as they could.
 
TheRejectionist said:
Yeah gotta agree with @TheRomanSlayer it was the Turks and some Kurdish tribes that partecipated in it. There are some very good articles on how Arabs did help a lot of the Armenians, with the head of the soon to be ruling Hashemite dynasty issuing a religious order to ask the faithful to help them as much as they could.
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Learn something new everyday I suppose.

Still call dibs on retaking Constantinople.
 
TheRejectionist said:
One, against the many organized by Daesh, which was backed EU "allies" .
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Wrong but irrelevant.
TheRejectionist said:
Sure, the clown country run by a sellout globalist comedian. Give me a break.
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Also wrong and irrelevant.
TheRejectionist said:
Attacking US forces that were supposed to not be there to begin with because of a lie and are still there because Trump got lied to?
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It's none of Shia Islamist's fucking business where US forces are supposed to be. I have no tolerance for "isolationism for the West, imperialism for world's shitsters" bullshit.

TheRejectionist said:
And how is it supposed to be a negative thing that US bases are attacked repeatedly since the US (and occasionally UK and France) has been doing that around anywhere the elites wanted it?
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Sorry, i still absolutely refuse to care about dead third world terrorists and commies, whoever kills them and wherever, great, the only thing western governments do wrong in that regard is not killing nearly enough of them.
TheRejectionist said:
Also this is the same agency that had actively censored any supposed conflict of interest they had with Klaus Schwab WEF and covered big Pharma during the almost three years of COVID. Most things that are reported by them are skewed at best if not outright fabricated or embellished to make their backers look good.
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Don't care, WTF does big pharma have to do with it, you really must have run out of arguments to mix that in.
TheRejectionist said:
Not to mention, it would be a net positive if someone actually and actively interfered in US affairs and got a bit of karma back at the elites in Washington.
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I won't support fucking Shia Islamists to own the libs, forget about it. They want to own all of us, not just the libs, so fuck that.
TheRejectionist said:
The only governments that could be considered active and actual menace to the Middle East are the United States and it's main "ally" Israel, as it has been for the past 75 years.
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Gee, more dumb anti-americanist leftist dogma, take this Baghdad Bob grade bullshit to someone who will take it seriously, you know damn well by know that it's not me, i don't drink this navel gazing shit that contrarian left idealist useful idiots love, just as their users in Beijing, Moscow and Tehran love it too.
TheRejectionist said:
I am not shilling for anyone here unlike you.
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Then why the fuck do you scrape the bottom of the barrel to find reasons for USA to not crack down on the Shia jihadis and try to desperately convince me that Shia jihadis are good boys and don't threaten anyone and if they do its a good thing.
 
Navarro said:
A mass grave containing 80 bodies was recently discovered in the courtyard of the Shifa hospital, two or three bodies have already been identified as hostages and the rest are being taken by IDF for further examination.

Ofc. "pro-Palestinians" online are claiming these are bodies of Palestinians being "stolen" by Israel for reasons ranging from being used for organs (impossible w/ how long they've been decaying) to creating golems.
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Israeli intelligence has also confirmed that the hospital was a massacre site, coroner determined that one of the hostages' bodies found there had been murdered at Al-Shifa and not "killed in an Israeli airstrike" as Hamas claimed.
 
Marduk said:
Yes. Are they patriotic for some Christian state they will want to make there in some unspecific future with some unspecified people?
At least if they were a noble family with a grand estate they had for generations i would understand the dilemma, but pretty sure that's not a thing for them.
Also those houses on videos definitely don't look even nearly 2000 years old.
The fact is that the land is most likely going to be controlled by people who will begrudgingly tolerate them as second class citizens at best, and "we have ISIL at home" at worst, that's who their neighbors will be, that's who will they be paying taxes to, that's what their government will be.
I'd say making the family survive and preferably prosper is more important than some small piece of war torn land with little good prospects for the future where there will be at the mercy of barbarians indefinitely.
Is the land supposed to serve the family, or does the family serve the land (and considering Gaza geography generally that's gonna be a tiny piece of land)?
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Are you trolling?
No it has nothing to do with some state or government. It was just the home the place where generations of their ancestors lived and died. And it's not just noble famillies small ones as well. It's hard to find specefic showings, It's easier to find about Jerusalem itself though still not very well known. I was able to find the name of one Muslim family the ones who hold the Key to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre(because of competing claims by 4 Christian Church's) But there are videos of Christians that have lived.

And just leaving is automatic failure it's a loser who just leaves when life is tough. Also again not taking into account that they might not be able to leave. Honestly do you want to accept more refugees to Poland? What makes you think the Arab nations will take them in, Israel also won't take them in so what?


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Husky_Khan said:
Citation needed on the Gazans having lived there for two thousand years.

And yes it is even more of a tragedy for the 5% of Gazans who don't support Hamas.
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I have video showings of an Arab(Coptic Christian family) living in Jerusalem for over 700 years longer than the groups that started the creation of the modern state of Israel.

But to properly answer your question I need to know. What do you think the Palestinians are? If you say they are Arab then they were there since the 600's or 700's. That get's us to 1400 years. Before that it was a Roman province that sometimes changed hands with the Sassanians. Now I have a question for you what happened after the Arab conquest? Do you think all those people were killed off to the last and no longer remained? Is that what you think?
 
King Arts said:
Are you trolling?
No it has nothing to do with some state or government. It was just the home the place where generations of their ancestors lived and died. And it's not just noble famillies small ones as well. It's hard to find specefic showings, It's easier to find about Jerusalem itself though still not very well known. I was able to find the name of one Muslim family the ones who hold the Key to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre(because of competing claims by 4 Christian Church's) But there are videos of Christians that have lived.

And just leaving is automatic failure it's a loser who just leaves when life is tough. Also again not taking into account that they might not be able to leave. Honestly do you want to accept more refugees to Poland? What makes you think the Arab nations will take them in, Israel also won't take them in so what?
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Failure at what? Getting bragging rights? Dying out with the whole family of stubbornness? It's not "wah can't get Starbucks, life is tough", it's life among and more likely than not under the power of Muslims, and quite fanatical ones at that, we're not talking Tatars or even Turks, with no real prospect of it getting better. Outside of the rather unlikely scenario of someone else coming in and removing or at least oppressing the Muslims for them, it's not gonna get much better for them in foreseeable future, that's a given. Meanwhile their own community in Gaza does in fact shrink quickly, by 2/3 over last decade and a bit, so migration is apparently possible for them somehow, considering how many do it.

On the other hand the mentioned idiocy of highest order is common, as we have heard of many people with foreign citizenship who were living in Gaza before the attacks, and with that means those could have emigrated a long time ago with no issue, quite often various humanitarian workers and the like.
 
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