Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel
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King Arts
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Let's not act like Israel and it's supporters aren't also engaged in bad actions. Including beating prisoners that aren't part of Hamas but are just random Palestinians. Also many videos mocking Palestinian civillians being killed. If making jokes or laughing about Jewish civilian dieing is anti semitism and wrong, then surely the same applies to Palestinian civillians. Also Piers had an interview with Tate earlier.
It's really weird seeing her act like that, given that she was given boat rides on a Rothschild boat of all things.
King Arts
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@Husky_Khan
@Bacle
Oh I also forgot to ask this to everyone who simps for Israel, yet calls what Vladimir Putin is doing in Ukraine genocide. Can you tell me why the double standard? According to this Owen guy the Israelis have killed ALOT of Palestinians. I mean I don't think Israel OR Russia is doing genocide. But that's cause I'm consistent, so are people who think both are genocidal those are also consistent.
Ironically those who accuse Israel of genocide but not Russia are more consistent than the neocons see this video.
@Bacle
Oh I also forgot to ask this to everyone who simps for Israel, yet calls what Vladimir Putin is doing in Ukraine genocide. Can you tell me why the double standard? According to this Owen guy the Israelis have killed ALOT of Palestinians. I mean I don't think Israel OR Russia is doing genocide. But that's cause I'm consistent, so are people who think both are genocidal those are also consistent.
Ironically those who accuse Israel of genocide but not Russia are more consistent than the neocons see this video.
King Arts
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I actually don't know who he is. But his comment about 10,000 Ukrainian civillians is right, and the ratio of 1/200 is corroborated by others like Washington Post.
So can you address the argument rather than the idiot making it? This isn't about economic policy after all, so his stupidity in that area doesn't matter.
Damn, guy's quoting Amalek parts of the scripture.
King Arts
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...Did he just suggest eternally hunting down and killing every last Palestinian?
Firstly, anyone with more than surface knowledge of the conflict knows the very controversial nature of the whole idea of Palestinians being a nation, as it came up only in a very convenient moment that called for it, right after Arab states failed another war against Israel... to take back... Arab lands from Israel!
Back then it was common for both Palestinian and Arab leader to assert that Palestinians are their compatriots, and its not something Israelis of any political stripe even contested back then.
As such, even the most hardcore right wing Israelis think Palestinians are just some Arabs, and they are having a border dispute with the Arab world, a quite reasonable outlook to take considering the history.
Meanwhile Russia asserts that Ukrainians are just Russians fooled by evil western propagandists into fake nationality, and they need to be made to see the light, by force if need be.
The former is a typical border conflict, not genocide. Israel wants some lands Arab claim, Arabs want some lands Israel claims, a lot of Arabs effectively claim no less than all the land of Israel, and most "Arab street" is not interested in backing down from their claims no matter how hard they get beaten on battlefields and how unpleasant the borderland Arab's lives become, misery ensues. Israel just wants Arabs to stay behind some line, with some disagreement on where exactly that line should be, and that they should not launch rockets or terror raids from behind that line, they don't give a shit what language Arabs behind that line speak, they can start speaking Klingon for all they care, and how they live beyond not waging war in any form on them, and above all, they absolutely don't want them to become Israelis.
The latter shows an intent to commit at minimum a cultural genocide, expanding to classic one if too much resistance to eliminating the Ukrainian nationality is shown.
Also i disrespect anyone who throws around the whole "but Israelis killed more civilians" argument, that's not how wars and justifications of them work. Britain killed more German civilians than Germany killed British in WW2, that doesn't make British the aggressor or anything like that, it's just a byproduct of Germany losing, and contrary to idiot leftists who always root for the underdog, outside of movies being the underdog in no way automatically makes anyone the good guys.
King Arts
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Nah he probably did not think about it like that. He probably just wants to kill them off or drive them away(to Europe probably) because they are a problem. And he quoted the Bible because it sounds epic. Though again doing stuff like this IS dehumanizing and makes it more likely shit like settlements will keep happening and causing more problems.
TheRomanSlayer
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So I'm confused: basically Edom and Esau are names that are euphemistic for atrocities of a different kind? I honestly believe we may need a separate thread to discuss the controversy surrounding the tale of who's the real firstborn son of Isaac: Esau or Jacob? Given that the latter pretty much usurped the former's position anyways
I don't recall stating that Russia is perpetrating genocide in Ukraine. I could be mistaken, but since it's you talking about me, I doubt it.
I'm not sure what "simping" for Israel is either. If it's comparable to your simping for child slavery then maybe I can see how it could fit your fuzzy logic or reasoning, otherwise I reject the biased premise of your question and your dishonest framing of me.
Sad.
King Arts
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Edom and Ammon are descended from Esau and Ben Ammi a son of Lot. progenitors of various tribes that gave the Jews problems way back in Biblical times. All groups are semites, and in fact many Jews have Edomite and Ammonite, and Moabite blood in them. There really aren't any "pure" people, there was interbreeding among the Israelites and Cainites.
King Arts
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I don't remember saying you said that? I said anyone who said "there is a genocide in Ukraine" plz answer. I did not accuse you of it, I tagged you because I THOUGHT you did but I was not sure. But since I was not sure I did not actually accuse you of it.
Also whenever you feel uncomfortable you just bring up me defending the reputation of Thomas Jefferson? Also I never "simped" for slavery simping implies it's good and it should be celebrated. Please show me where I said enslaving blacks was great and should have been done?
TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
I could never understand the words of certain people that say something bad about the House of Esau and Edom and Amalek.
And given Abraham's sons Ishmael and Isaac, who's the real first born son? Given that the love affair that resulted in Ishmael being born, is he a legit first born son or a bastard child?
LOL!
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Oh I also forgot to ask this to everyone who simps for Slavery, yet calls what Corporations are doing in America not slavery? Can you tell me why the double standard? According to this Communist guy the Capitalists practice something called 'Wage Slavery' which enslaves ALOT of people
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I don't remember saying you said that? I said anyone who said "there is no slavery in the West" plz answer. I did not accuse you of it, I tagged you because I THOUGHT you did but I was not sure. But since I was not sure I did not actually accuse you of it.
King Arts
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Well I don't think Amalek was ever "rehabilitated" But the others were
For instance Moab. Jesus is descended from a Moabite. Ruth
Ruth (biblical figure) - Wikipedia
In regards to Abraham and his sons. That is a matter of debate even to the modern day the Jews will say Ishmael is a bastard born from Hagar a servant woman, while Muslims say that he was the firstborn he is an actual child of Abraham, and was favored by him. Another thing to remember is that Bastardry was diffrent in the middle east than in Europe. Europe had a monogamous culture, while the middle east and China were polygamous. Thats why all the sons of a Sultan had a chance for the throne. So even if Ishmael was not a child of Abraham and his wife Sarah there might be something to the claim.
Largo
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There's more to genocide than "killing a lot of people," you know.