United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

CarlManvers2019

CarlManvers2019

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Bigking321 said:
Eh, you aren't that bad.

And you're right they are getting sick of them.

But there is a problem.

They are the establishment of the democrat party and the democrat party has made the lunatic fringe its base and lost all interest in its former base, the working class, middle class, African Americans, and blue collar workers.

They will still claim to be for those groups but don't actually do anything for them but take their votes for granted and fear monger about how terrible the other party is for them.

But the new base...

Fanatical, driven young people that have completely bought in to what they are selling and believe every bit of ridiculous propaganda that they spoon feed them.

They are like the most zealous religious fanatic but for a political party. Utterly loyal to it and immune to any evidence that they might be wrong.

Their politics are their lives. Completely willing to destroy people the party says is the enemy and willing to sever connections to other people in their lives that disagree.

The democratic establishment couldn't have been happier. A rabid dog they could use against whoever they wanted who would never question their leaders.

So having bound themselves to them they eventually ran into the opposite problem of disloyalty. They were being questioned for not being loyal enough to their own ideology.

So the establishment now is having to go farther and farther into the insane far left, far beyond any sense or reason. And they can't pull back and be reasonable because they have alienated their old base and they are terrified their new base might turn on them.

Like a cult leader that was just trying to scam people but now have to act like they believe their own lies because the people they tricked are true believers and will kill them if they try to get away.

I have no doubt whatsoever that if the establishment eventually managed to use the far left to destroy all their enemies they would then immediately try to get rid the far left people and be glad to be rid of them.

Not sure who would win that fight nowadays...
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Aside from politicians, I think you may as well include the big corporations, media, academia and celebrities in-terms of "We can't get out of the cult or we're screwed" sort of thing

Still, it sounds to me they're not truly prepared to deal with people actually taking them seriously given how protected they are
 
Sailor.X

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Lord Invictus said:
The people advocating defunding the police literally believe they can be replaced with on site social workers and therapists. This comes from a viewpoint where crime is simply the product of racism, poverty, or whatever. So a talk down by a trained therapist in their minds will somehow prevent crime from happening.

While having psychologically trained staff can probably be useful in some situations-domestic disputes, autistic or mentally ill people harming themselves or others, abusive families, etc... in your general robbery/mugging/gang murder they are absolutely useless. Unless they have magic empathy/persuasion powers which the people advocating defunding the police seem to believe.

They reference Europe as a model...when not even Europe is this "soft". Police in Europe will shoot if they must. They generally rely more on the threat of force to get criminals to comply, though they can definitely wrestle suspects to the ground too.

Its a combination of naivety and patronization honestly. It assumes a gentle social worker with a masters in interpersonal conflict psychology will get a gangbanger to stop committing a crime in progress, while also assuming said gangbanger isn't really responsible for his actions. Racism, poverty, poor education, xyz are and that he can't choose to you know not be a gangbanger.

Its an extremely stupid sort of "thinking".
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They fail to see the one ugly truth about human nature. Most people just want to do their own thing and be left alone. But some people regardless of race. Regardless of Social status. Regardless of Gender. Just love to inflict pain on others. Those people are the Schoolyard bullies that picked on weak students because they got off on hurting other people. Those are the people that instigate fights so that they can watch the chaos of people turning on one another. Those are the people who own businesses but treat their employees like crap. Three different types of pain causing but the same mentality. And the reason we have Law Enforcement is to try and keep these monsters in check. Sadly a handful of these types do sneak into Police Forces. But you deal with the bad apples and not throw out the whole basket.
 
Shipmaster Sane

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Senor Hortler said:
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I have a proposal.
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Hey guys have you heard about my totally based anti socialist political strategy? It's called N-Socialism, and it's totally different than socialism, see, it was designed by a european art student and his extremely close male friend who was a marxist newspaper editor, w-wait! Where are you going!? Dont you hate Socialism!? I havent even gotten to tell you about the part where we curtail gun rights and subsume all private industry into the state!

Guys? Guys??

Well fuck you! Y-You werent even real white people anyway!
 
CarlManvers2019

CarlManvers2019

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Sailor.X said:
They fail to see the one ugly truth about human nature. Most people just want to do their own thing and be left alone. But some people regardless of race. Regardless of Social status. Regardless of Gender. Just love to inflict pain on others. Those people are the Schoolyard bullies that picked on weak students because they got off on hurting other people. Those are the people that instigate fights so that they can watch the chaos of people turning on one another. Those are the people who own businesses but treat their employees like crap. Three different types of pain causing but the same mentality. And the reason we have Law Enforcement is to try and keep these monsters in check. Sadly a handful of these types do sneak into Police Forces. But you deal with the bad apples and not throw out the whole basket.
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I think there's an extra type of bully, a sort of "parasite" that lives off others willingly submitting or giving deference or revering a person/s

These loners are in a way, a possible danger to them as they may not be interested in whatever "greater good" variant or "praise/attention" being offered up to them, they're not interested in joining a cult

These "parasites" wish to dominate whilst speaking of compassion. When they speak of sacrifices, they expect YOU to be doing the sacrificing, not just of your life, but your own values and your own thinking and your own conscience to their "cause"

If there's no major problem, they'll just make one or maintain one as existing. There'll be Cults and Cult Leaders looking for more members soon.

Do this appeasement and BLM & ANTIFA will still need its followers still hooked on the cause
 
Senor Hortler

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Shipmaster Sane said:
Imagine being a european and not being able to imagine life more than walking distance from a city.
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Is that your point? Cities bad? Cities are shitholes? Edinburghs quite nice. London could do with a few nukings to clean it up, I've been to New York and London is like a shitty version of New York with none of the accessibility. York, ironically is nice; but it's small and norf so that's to be expected. Boston's nice if you stick to the bits on the beachy area. Coventry is probably the worst city I've been to, it's a tumour made of concrete.

Are you implying that because you don't live near a city the chimpening doesn't affect you? Where do you think all the upper middle class commies are going to white flight to?
 
Senor Hortler

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Shipmaster Sane said:
"Are you implying not living where 95% of the crime is happening means crime is less likely to happen where you are?"

God you're struggling.
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So you are retarded then. Grand. The white guys who vote for the policies that result in this don't stay in the places they ruin, they move and then vote for the same shit. Why on earth do you think your area isn't going to have the shit done to it. Unless you literally live in some irelevant arse end of nowhere town and never plan to have kids, the shit that occurs in cities is also your problem further down the line when the bugmen leave the cities.

It isn't just going to go away because you have a 'I just wanna grrrriiiiillll' mentality, and you're fine with being individual. The lefties in America aren't fine with you being an individual, and are fine with using state power to enforce their will. Sure you can LARP as rambo for a bit if it comes to that but then what?
 
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StormEagle

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Urabrask Revealed said:
Err, the fact that you're a civilized person with an understanding of private property and the god-given rights outlined in the constitution? Your argument is not working that well as it assumes to all people to be one bad moment away from caving someone's skull in.
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I’m of the opinion that a good amount of people are only as good as the system allows them to be. Fear of consequence is one of the pillars that holds civilization up.

Laws without people to enforce them, are absolutely worthless and invites the kind of banditry and destruction we’ve been seeing all week.

This is why I view anarchic and some libertarian philosophy and ideology as naive , as they come from an assumption that people are good, rational, altruistic actors that will work towards the common good without coercion.

When it’s far more likely that the end result of such systems, especially the anarchic ones, is the men with the biggest or the most guns make what rules they want.
 
CarlManvers2019

CarlManvers2019

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StormEagle said:
I’m of the opinion that a good amount of people are only as good as the system allows them to be. Fear of consequence is one of the pillars that holds civilization up.

Laws without people to enforce them, are absolutely worthless and invites the kind of banditry and destruction we’ve been seeing all week.

This is why I view anarchic and some libertarian philosophy and ideology as naive , as they come from an assumption that people are good, rational, altruistic actors that will work towards the common good without coercion.

When it’s far more likely that the end result of such systems, especially the anarchic ones, is the men with the biggest or the most guns make what rules they want.
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Honestly, a "Miniarchy" sounds about the best way to do things, though it too has the dangers of expanding powers as it is within the interests, though not well-thought-out, of politicians to expand power

Also, I can see a "Miniarchy" even if NOT so corrupt, being called totalitarian and evil for NOT being so involved heavily with every portion of society

That said, we're getting off-topic here, I'll just say that I think people are getting sick of SJWism and the Far Left en masse, it may not be permanent but it's a start.
 
Arch Dornan

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StormEagle said:
I’m of the opinion that a good amount of people are only as good as the system allows them to be. Fear of consequence is one of the pillars that holds civilization up.

Laws without people to enforce them, are absolutely worthless and invites the kind of banditry and destruction we’ve been seeing all week.

This is why I view anarchic and some libertarian philosophy and ideology as naive , as they come from an assumption that people are good, rational, altruistic actors that will work towards the common good without coercion.

When it’s far more likely that the end result of such systems, especially the anarchic ones, is the men with the biggest or the most guns make what rules they want.
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I very much agree. These laws are made up to restrict everyone's "excesses." It doesn't mean it's infallible when countries with the biggest power does what it wants and hides away the bodies everytime someone cries human rights or warcrimes then there's hedonistic behaviour no one approves of but those high in status gets away with until it's very hard to cover up.

Nothing's perfect but it's there to prevent past behaviors to not be repeated. It just happens somewhere else.
 
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MelancholicMechanicus said:
I honestly feel like I am being gaslit by people at this point. Have we as a species really become this fucking mindless to just follow the groupthink?

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I'm guessing that under the threat of looming privatization BBC is already practicing how to compete with The Onion. With titles like that, they might even have some chances.
 
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