Steven Crowder takes a stand against Conservative networks

The impressive thing to me about the Crowder situation is that lots of people in Conservative media knew about Crowders marriage troubles and how he slapped NDA's and legal intimidation on former employees and even at the height of that stupidly asinine #StopTheBigCon quarrel between Daily Wire and Crowder where Crowder was recording personal phone calls months in advance no one actually broke faith on Crowder and did the petty thing in airing his dirty laundry then.

Candace Owens came the closest by stating on a podcast right after the fake controversy came out that people should ask Jared about Crowder and why he wasn't speaking out. Then she didn't mention it again.

The fact that others didn't de-evolve to petty personal attacks on the level Crowder had (and continues to do) back then when they had the ammunition to is pretty interesting.

Husky_Khan said:

The impressive thing to me about the Crowder situation is that lots of people in Conservative media knew about Crowders marriage troubles and how he slapped NDA's and legal intimidation on former employees and even at the height of that stupidly asinine #StopTheBigCon quarrel between Daily Wire and Crowder where Crowder was recording personal phone calls months in advance no one actually broke faith on Crowder and did the petty thing in airing his dirty laundry then.

Candace Owens came the closest by stating on a podcast right after the fake controversy came out that people should ask Jared about Crowder and why he wasn't speaking out. Then she didn't mention it again.

The fact that others didn't de-evolve to petty personal attacks on the level Crowder had (and continues to do) back then when they had the ammunition to is pretty interesting.

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Back when the marriage issues became public, I went to watch an episode of Louder with Crowder for the first time in a couple years.

...It was rough. Something had changed, things weren't flowing naturally the way they had some time back, and I was struck by the sense that something had fundamentally broken, and the show/the culture of the business had become sick.

I don't know for sure exactly what is and isn't going on there, but I think Crowder is in a death spiral, and just as he seems to be destroying his personal life and relationships, he's also going to destroy his business. I hope he has a change of heart, but that rarely happens with things like this until after someone has completely immolated.

Abhorsen said:

Those don't meet a threshold of what Crowder would need to show. Much of it doesn't even help his side. For example, one side's colluding is another side's friends helping friends in a shared tough situation.

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Except Jerad didn't get invovled till years after the divorce filed and that her dad made it clear they did this to make him lose.

Abhorsen said:

Hiring PR? That's a no duh when you are up against someone with a massive platform and devoted audience. If she didn't, she'd be a moron. Crowder does the same, just gets it for free with his platform.

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He never brought up his divorce at all until Owen's forced it up.
Why need a PR team unless you pla. To bring it up...which she did as she wanted to turn the people against Steven

Abhorsen said:

So your added info goes into my prior dueling hypothesis as barely an advantage for Crowder, which isn't enough to overturn Crowder's long history otherwise.

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I mean, he still has people working for him. He is known to be an asshole to work woth but yet he has people who have been there since Quarter Black amd Dave were both there. Tim the Tool mam for instance.

Abhorsen said:

Though I will say, a mean words on a potato (with instructions on how to cook?) is a new one:

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Got a laugh out ot me.

Husky_Khan said:

The impressive thing to me about the Crowder situation is that lots of people in Conservative media knew about Crowders marriage troubles and how he slapped NDA's and legal intimidation on former employees and even at the height of that stupidly asinine #StopTheBigCon quarrel between Daily Wire and Crowder where Crowder was recording personal phone calls months in advance no one actually broke faith on Crowder and did the petty thing in airing his dirty laundry then.

Candace Owens came the closest by stating on a podcast right after the fake controversy came out that people should ask Jared about Crowder and why he wasn't speaking out. Then she didn't mention it again.

The fact that others didn't de-evolve to petty personal attacks on the level Crowder had (and continues to do) back then when they had the ammunition to is pretty interesting.

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I mean, he didn't really devolve into it much after the fact. He kinds stays out if it all against others.
As far as I can tell he doesn't get invovled in drama outside of this and the DW thing.

LordsFire said:

Back when the marriage issues became public, I went to watch an episode of Louder with Crowder for the first time in a couple years.

...It was rough. Something had changed, things weren't flowing naturally the way they had some time back, and I was struck by the sense that something had fundamentally broken, and the show/the culture of the business had become sick.

I don't know for sure exactly what is and isn't going on there, but I think Crowder is in a death spiral, and just as he seems to be destroying his personal life and relationships, he's also going to destroy his business. I hope he has a change of heart, but that rarely happens with things like this until after someone has completely immolated.

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He took a change and started to retool to focus major efforts in his undercover stuff.
Which got is the Nashville shooting manifesto, you had his team find the stuff out about the almost columbine 2.0 that no one else talked about. The Chinese owning farms and land in Oklahoma to traffic people in....

He changed it around to focus on what he could.

The divorce is hurting him a lot, financially and mentally.
Which is why Gerald A owns it now.

Abhorsen said:

Crowder continues to be scummy. Yes, the former employer is Crowder, the person speaking was formerly known as Not Gay Jared.

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Finally got to watch the video. He hasn't even been released from the NDA yet... but I remember hearing about it way back in January of 2023 and brought it up in the old Crowder-Daily Wire spat thread.

How Crowder cannot be perceived as scummy and narcissistic now I have no idea. We've had the issue with Jared Monroe ever since he left Louder With Crowder years ago, plus the issues with the other individuals who are apparently also being attacked and silenced with lawfare and NDA's and other legal intimidation tactics. Then we had the whole manufactured #StopTheBigCon contract spat with the Daily Wire from the beginning of last year in 2023 where Crowder was posting misrepresented videos and then revealed he was recording Christmas phone calls months after the fact to make videos for later, then Dave Landau left and revealed during his appearance on the Michael Malice podcast that Steven Crowder is a narcissist and records all of his phone calls apparently and just plots these things.

Then there was the fact all of the Conservatives kept Crowder's marital issues quiet for a year and then it was Crowder who apparently made public he was getting a divorce which led to the release of that infamous Ring video and then Crowder stating he'd release all of the documentation and records about his wife including her medical records and whatnot. And then we have this from Jared now of how Crowder is still using lawfare and legal intimidation to keep his former employees quiet and braindead newsreader The Quartering carrying water for him just like he does every other time.

Hope Crowder's new Conservative News Organization launch is doing well. It's been over a year. Haven't seen any new talent pop up in his network... not including the ones he's strangling with legal intimidation for having the temerity of not working for him in perpetuity.

Husky_Khan said:

Finally got to watch the video. He hasn't even been released from the NDA yet... but I remember hearing about it way back in January of 2023 and brought it up in the old Crowder-Daily Wire spat thread.

How Crowder cannot be perceived as scummy and narcissistic now I have no idea. We've had the issue with Jared Monroe ever since he left Louder With Crowder years ago, plus the issues with the other individuals who are apparently also being attacked and silenced with lawfare and NDA's and other legal intimidation tactics. Then we had the whole manufactured #StopTheBigCon contract spat with the Daily Wire from the beginning of last year in 2023 where Crowder was posting misrepresented videos and then revealed he was recording Christmas phone calls months after the fact to make videos for later, then Dave Landau left and revealed during his appearance on the Michael Malice podcast that Steven Crowder is a narcissist and records all of his phone calls apparently and just plots these things.

Then there was the fact all of the Conservatives kept Crowder's marital issues quiet for a year and then it was Crowder who apparently made public he was getting a divorce which led to the release of that infamous Ring video and then Crowder stating he'd release all of the documentation and records about his wife including her medical records and whatnot. And then we have this from Jared now of how Crowder is still using lawfare and legal intimidation to keep his former employees quiet and braindead newsreader The Quartering carrying water for him just like he does every other time.

Hope Crowder's new Conservative News Organization launch is doing well. It's been over a year. Haven't seen any new talent pop up in his network... not including the ones he's strangling with legal intimidation for having the temerity of not working for him in perpetuity.

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I mean, he routinely has the Hodge Twins, Brian Callen, Alex Jones is apart of his team. Nick Di Paulo is on his team. My Guns and Gear last I checked is as well.
He has Josh Firestone I think that's how you say it?
He has a good bit of decently known people appearing and working with him.
There are ones I have forgotten.

They have thier undercover team which got us the Nashville shooters manifesto, uncovered a potential school shooter that got covered up even from parents. Uncovered the AG if Oklahoma being heavily involved with Chinese to allow them access to buy land and are taking huge amounts of it.
There is more but that's off the top of my head

I do ask, have you seen Geralds response to Jerad?

mrttao said:

Can someone sum up what the deal is with crowder? I am only seeing long ass videos posted. I tried watching and its so coy about getting into what is going on that I died of boredom.

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Crowder has done one scummy thing that we for sure know about (lie a ton, misrepresent his contract offer from the Daily Wire, and secretly record phone calls as a gotcha that really wasn't).

During that fiasco, other scummy things about Crowder came out, originating initially with Candace Owens. Namely that video with his pregnant wife where it maybe shows abuse. Then other stuff came to light, like his wife filing for divorce, and his mistreatment of employees (Not Gay Jared and Sven Computer are two big ones).

Then people are recognizing a pattern, and wondering what other bad stuff may have happened. He always seems to burn outside of his office relationships.

Currently, I'd put my money on him being a shitty employer and a petty man. Not damning, but also not good.

mrttao said:

MSM misdirection

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And Spartans unit found some of the barrells iirc.

mrttao said:

Can someone sum up what the deal is with crowder? I am only seeing long ass videos posted. I tried watching and its so coy about getting into what is going on that I died of boredom.

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Basically, allegedly, old employee breaks NDA to try and hurt Crowders PR, as has been happening due to his divorce.
His team shows numerous things showing that his ex wife is trying to hurt his PR to win more in court, and it was her Ex wife's decision to go public about the divorce, not his own.
With her family being in on it, and his former employee being brought on to help with bringing down his PR.

I say allegedly because it is early on.

We have phone records shown that his ex wife and her family did say this.

He is also paying her 25k a month in child support, his estate pays for the lawyer fees for her, and has offered 5 mil.
She wants more

Didn’t his ex-wife also delete all the other security footage except what she released?

The divorce situation smells of bitter ex-wife trying to ruin her former husbands life to me.

StormEagle said:

Didn’t his ex-wife also delete all the other security footage except what she released?

The divorce situation smells of bitter ex-wife trying to ruin her former husbands life to me.

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That's what it seems like and yes. Yes she did.
She also did it against court orders.

StormEagle said:

Didn’t his ex-wife also delete all the other security footage except what she released?

The divorce situation smells of bitter ex-wife trying to ruin her former husbands life to me.

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Zachowon said:

That's what it seems like and yes. Yes she did.
She also did it against court orders.

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According to the Plaintiff she did that and everything else in the released documents from the Plaintiff.

Just because it's in the Plaintiffs complaint AFAIK doesn't make it some sort of established fact I'm assuming (not a lawyer).

StormEagle said:

Didn’t his ex-wife also delete all the other security footage except what she released?

The divorce situation smells of bitter ex-wife trying to ruin her former husbands life to me.

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Zachowon said:

That's what it seems like and yes. Yes she did.
She also did it against court orders.

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Ah ok. so typical woman moment. combined with simp moment.

Abhorsen said:

Crowder has done one scummy thing that we for sure know about (lie a ton, misrepresent his contract offer from the Daily Wire, and secretly record phone calls as a gotcha that really wasn't).

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The first two are scummy.
But there is nothing wrong with recording stuff.

mrttao said:

Ah ok. so typical woman moment. combined with simp moment.

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She tried to get his dog to be taken away.
Not take it, taken away. Claiming it was a danger due to former owner. Who wrote an affidavit against her.

Fun fact, thw video i posted was livestreamed because Crowder was in court with her.

mrttao said:

The first two are scummy.
But there is nothing wrong with recording stuff.

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I mean, Texas is a 1 party consent state.
Who knows how many he records, as in that buisness, it is needed.

And from what even Gerald said, Steven can be a huge asshole.

Zachowon said:

She tried to get his dog to be taken away.
Not take it, taken away. Claiming it was a danger due to former owner. Who wrote an affidavit against her.

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This is sadly typical.

mrttao said:

This is sadly typical.

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Tried to even get his best friend (Gerald, who he made CEO) to join her side

Zachowon said:

Tried to even get his best friend (Gerald, who he made CEO) to join her side

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Women. 🙄

Zachowon said:

Tried to even get his best friend (Gerald, who he made CEO) to join her side

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... How is that a bad thing? Seriously, if you are in an acrimonious divorce (which IMO is nearly the only reason to have one, if you don't hate each other, stay married), you are trying to win. If she didn't, she'd be a moron. I'm sure Crowder tried similar things, and if he didn't, he's a moron.

90% of what's listed here are totally normal things in a situation where there's a ton of money and a ton of media attention that Crowder is trying to make nefarious but aren't. The only off thing from the wife is the alleged deletion of video. That's it.

Abhorsen said:

... How is that a bad thing? Seriously, if you are in an acrimonious divorce (which IMO is nearly the only reason to have one, if you don't hate each other, stay married), you are trying to win. If she didn't, she'd be a moron. I'm sure Crowder tried similar things, and if he didn't, he's a moron.

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He hasn't as far as we can tell.
He never tried to do PR against her. He basically only brought it up once Owens forced him too.
The fact she is basically trying to turn those that are ir were his friends against him just so she can get more then she is already given.
Like...that is even more then being oetty. Thats being greedy and extortion

Abhorsen said:

90% of what's listed here are totally normal things in a situation where there's a ton of money and a ton of media attention that Crowder is trying to make nefarious but aren't. The only off thing from the wife is the alleged deletion of video. That's it.

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The fact that his wife also hired a lawyer who has in the past doctored evidence? A PR lawyer?
She is being given 25k a month for the remainder of the trial. 5 mil was put on the table, more then she would have gotten on court.

The big thing here, she is trying to make it so he is FORCED to give her more. She admits what he is offering and giving is more then the court would have given her.

That, with the plotting to destroy his career to get more money, the video deletion, it seems like she was in it for the money

Zachowon said:

The fact that his wife also hired a lawyer who has in the past doctored evidence? A PR lawyer?
She is being given 25k a month for the remainder of the trial. 5 mil was put on the table, more then she would have gotten on court.

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What was the custody status of the kids in that offering?

Zachowon said:

He hasn't as far as we can tell.
He never tried to do PR against her. He basically only brought it up once Owens forced him too.

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So he very much did. Any talk of it on his show is him doing PR. Not having a PR strategy when the other person does national news is stupid.

Zachowon said:

The fact she is basically trying to turn those that are ir were his friends against him just so she can get more then she is already given.
Like...that is even more then being oetty. Thats being greedy and extortion

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No, that is normal. Welcome to an unhappy end to a relationship. It's ugly, but it isn't bad behavior. Crowder is simply portraying it as bad behavior as his PR strategy.

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The fact that his wife also hired a lawyer who has in the past doctored evidence? A PR lawyer?
She is being given 25k a month for the remainder of the trial. 5 mil was put on the table, more then she would have gotten on court.

The big thing here, she is trying to make it so he is FORCED to give her more. She admits what he is offering and giving is more then the court would have given her.

That, with the plotting to destroy his career to get more money, the video deletion, it seems like she was in it for the money

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... Obviously she's trying to get money in a divorce? Duh? If you are in a bad relationship (which they were, it ended in a divorce), you want as much money from the other person as possible. And we don't know that $5M is more than the court would have offered her. It's probably less than, given that Crowder had a $50M/year contract offer at one point. Sure, he'd have to pay some of that, but still. Half of whatever's left is going to be much more than $5M.

See, I'm open to Crowder not being a scumbag here. But he has a history, so I'm going to need actual evidence. Not "Wah, they are behaving smart in a divorce."

As for that lawyer? He didn't in the past doctor evidence that I know of. He was the lawyer for Trevor Bauer's accuser, and the accuser lied. Eventually, the truth came out. I've seen no evidence of doctored evidence on the part of the lawyer there. Guess what? Lawyers have dirtbag clients. Even good lawyers do. Any lawyer will tell you about cases where their client didn't deserve to win. But lawyers aren't supposed to pursue justice, that's literally not their job (unless they are a District Attorney, but that doesn't apply here). They are supposed to get their client to win while staying within legal ethic rules (which aren't normal ethics rules).


Also, that $25k/month? To someone as wealthy as Crowder? That's $300k/year. A lot of money, but also when Crowder earns millions a year, likely not actually a huge percentage of what Crowder likely makes.


Look, quite bluntly, you don't seem to know what bad behavior is in a divorce. Bad behavior from her would be stopping the dad from seeing the kids because of a fake reason or alienation (or the alleged deleting evidence). We won't know about this until the end of the proceedings. Most of the bad behavior though already happened. Either Crowder being a dick or worse, or her doing alienation or worse. We don't know which happened. But we can take guesses based on everyone else's interactions with Crowder: Sven Computer and Not Gay Jared. There's a ton of smoke there, so likely a fire.