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Alec Baldwin shoots 2 on set of western, 1 dead

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i'd like to point out that if the gun was somehow not in perfect working order it would one of the first things we would have heard about.
 

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i'd like to point out that if the gun was somehow not in perfect working order it would one of the first things we would have heard about.
the gun did have a major flaw



You see that big one that's the one the gun was designed to handle you see the smaller one? Thats your average hollywood actor.

Now look at alec baldwins



So you see with that kind of design flaw it was only a matter of time until things went wrong.
 

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"Authorities have refused to rule out filing criminal charges over the incident and in October District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told the New York Times that "everything at this point, including criminal charges, is on the table"."

"The release comes a week after producers of the film were condemned by authorities for failing to follow safety guidelines and charged the maximum fine of $136,793 (£105,000). "
 

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Honestly, the part that *really* steams me is that the producers outright admitted that yes, they had three prior misfires on set and took no action to address those incidents, but argued that it's totally unfair for OSHA to penalize them for this because the misfires did not involve live ammunition and therefore shouldn't count as safety protocol violations.
 

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So apparently Alec Baldwin has reached a civil settlement with the late Halyna Hutchin's family over this incident. Halyna Hutchin's widower Matthew Hutchins will be named an executive producer of the film ''Rust'' which is going to resume filming in January.

While the sum of the settlement is not mentioned, I would bet it's somewhere in the few million to ten million dollar region.

And criminal investigators in this matter so far are not filing any charges, but refuse to rule out filing them later on if new information supporting doing so comes out.

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But overall whatever charges that could be brought against Alec Baldwin would probably be at worst a negligent / involuntary manslaughter and reckless use of a firearm.
 

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Halyna Hutchin's widower Matthew Hutchins will be named an executive producer of the film ''Rust'' which is going to resume filming in January.
"We'll make you the executive producer of the movie where your wife got shot".......uh, ok? That's just weird.
 

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"We'll make you the executive producer of the movie where your wife got shot".......uh, ok? That's just weird.
Industrial accident version of this would be making the widow the boss of operators of the equipment that got their spouse killed in the first place as a compensation.

If I was Hutchin's widower, I wouldn't want anything to do with Rust or its entire team from now on.
 

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Industrial accident version of this would be making the widow the boss of operators of the equipment that got their spouse killed in the first place as a compensation.

If I was Hutchin's widower, I wouldn't want anything to do with Rust or its entire team from now on.
I wouldn't want to be in Alec's shoes because what's stopping this guy from arranging an accident?
 

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I wouldn't want to be in Alec's shoes because what's stopping this guy from arranging an accident?
The fact he's some random dude and doesn't have the connection or know-how to do that comes to mind.
 

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I think Baldwin is absolutely liable as a producer of the film even if the facts bear out him not being responsible as the shooter due to movie-specific safety regulations.

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It is absolutely negligent for a movie as gun-heavy as a Western to hire only a single armorer in the first place, much less making that one armorer only part time and telling her she had to switch back and forth between being armorer for a sharply limited number of hours and being "only" a props assistant the rest of the time.

As if that wasn't bad enough, the safety investigation found that the producers actively undermined the limited armorer they had by flatly ignoring her warnings that she couldn't perform necessary functions in the limited hours they were willing to contract, then doubled down on it by ordering her *not to* perform certain armorer functions such as safety briefings, claiming they'd assign those to other production staff and then *not actually doing so*.

Basically, assuming the information I've seen is accurate, all of the movie producers should go down for criminally negligent homicide. As to the actual shooting, assistant director Halls is probably the most directly culpable person for handing Baldwin a loaded gun which he hadn't bothered to check and explicitly declaring it a cold gun. The fact that Halls tried to claim that even though he made the "cold gun" call, armorer Gutierrez-Reed bore sole responsibility for checking it when she wasn't even allowed to be on set at the time just makes him an absolute bootlicking shit to the criminally negligent producers.
 
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