Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[ShieldWife]

The West (that is to say the USA, EU, and other nations that we would call the First World) are controlled by an alliance of bankers, multinational corporations, media moguls, and deep state bureaucrats who support the same agenda:

Globalism
Rampant immigration
The trans-sexual movement
Elimination of the family and sexual morality
Feminism
Anti-white racial politics
Centralized control of currency
Censorship
Forced vaccinations
Reduced parental rights/involvement
Oppose gun rights and self defense
And all around support the extreme leftist and woke agenda.

These are people who call Trump supported domestic terrorists. Who locked up Jan 6th and trucker protestors without bail. Who had Tea Party protestors audited by the IRS and weaponry the Justice Department against Trump and his allies. Not only are the rulers of the “West” evil and degenerate liars, but they hate their subjects hope to oppress or even eliminate them.

Oh yeah, these elites also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Putin and support Ukraine. That doesn’t make Putin or the invasion good or right, but it should is all something to consider. We absolutely shouldn’t believe anything that comes out of the mainstream media.

 

[Omnimercurial]

The head of Roscosmos is threatening to destabilize the International Space Station in response to sanctions... opining what could happen if a five hundred ton space station drops on Europe or the United States (but later also adds China or India) so it doesn't sound so much like a brazen Act of War or Crime Against Humanity he's endorsing.

Russian Space Agency Head Suggests Sanctions May Lead to ISS Plummeting

"If you block cooperation with us, who will save the ISS from an uncontrolled deorbit and fall into the United States or Europe?" Dmitry Rogozin wrote.

www.newsweek.com

SIEG ZEON!!

TIME FOR A COLONY DROP!!

IT'S WARCRIME SEASON ALREADY!! ^_^

 

[BlackDragon98]

The West (that is to say the USA, EU, and other nations that we would call the First World) are controlled by an alliance of bankers, multinational corporations, media moguls, and deep state bureaucrats who support the same agenda:

Globalism
Rampant immigration
The trans-sexual movement
Elimination of the family and sexual morality
Feminism
Anti-white racial politics
Centralized control of currency
Censorship
Forced vaccinations
Reduced parental rights/involvement
Oppose gun rights and self defense
And all around support the extreme leftist and woke agenda.

These are people who call Trump supported domestic terrorists. Who locked up Jan 6th and trucker protestors without bail. Who had Tea Party protestors audited by the IRS and weaponry the Justice Department against Trump and his allies. Not only are the rulers of the “West” evil and degenerate liars, but they hate their subjects hope to oppress or even eliminate them.

Oh yeah, these elites also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Putin and support Ukraine. That doesn’t make Putin or the invasion good or right, but it should is all something to consider. We absolutely shouldn’t believe anything that comes out of the mainstream media.

Which supports my theory that Putin was indeed at some point a member of the Schwab's group of libfahs or neocon/RINO shitfaces, but he was only there for his own reasons and that he has now betrayed Schwab and the fuckwad's unipolar "New World Order" vision.

Just like how Trump was a member of the "idle rich" before he got up from his easy chair and stunned the world with his victory over the slimy reptilian bitch who probably should be rotting in prison if she isn't eligible for the death penalty.

 

[WolfBear]

The West (that is to say the USA, EU, and other nations that we would call the First World) are controlled by an alliance of bankers, multinational corporations, media moguls, and deep state bureaucrats who support the same agenda:

Globalism
Rampant immigration
The trans-sexual movement
Elimination of the family and sexual morality
Feminism
Anti-white racial politics
Centralized control of currency
Censorship
Forced vaccinations
Reduced parental rights/involvement
Oppose gun rights and self defense
And all around support the extreme leftist and woke agenda.

These are people who call Trump supported domestic terrorists. Who locked up Jan 6th and trucker protestors without bail. Who had Tea Party protestors audited by the IRS and weaponry the Justice Department against Trump and his allies. Not only are the rulers of the “West” evil and degenerate liars, but they hate their subjects hope to oppress or even eliminate them.

Oh yeah, these elites also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Putin and support Ukraine. That doesn’t make Putin or the invasion good or right, but it should is all something to consider. We absolutely shouldn’t believe anything that comes out of the mainstream media.

FWIW, Ukraine and Eastern Europe in general oppose Western Wokeness.

Yay, more welfare leeches and more cheap wage slaves to lower salaries.

Better Ukrainians play this role than Muslims and Africans, frankly. At least Ukrainians have more potential due to their higher average IQ. They're also less crime-prone and terrorism-prone, on average.

 

[ShieldWife]

Which supports my theory that Putin was indeed at some point a member of the Schwab's group of libfahs or neocon/RINO shitfaces, but he was only there for his own reasons and that he has now betrayed Schwab and the fuckwad's unipolar "New World Order" vision.

Just like how Trump was a member of the "idle rich" before he got up from his easy chair and stunned the world with his victory over the slimy reptilian bitch who probably should be rotting in prison if she isn't eligible for the death penalty.

That theory sounds reasonable. It’s pretty clear that Trump was well connected with the establishment before going rogue. It makes sense for Putin too. It may well be the case that their power is too well entrenched for an outsider to even get that powerful without being in with them.

FWIW, Ukraine and Eastern Europe in general oppose Western Wokeness.

Better Ukrainians play this role than Muslims and Africans, frankly. At least Ukrainians have more potential due to their higher average IQ. They're also less crime-prone and terrorism-prone, on average.

True, former Soviet countries are generally far less woke than in the west - all the more reason to try to exert influence over them and convert them to the faith.

Ukraine would probably be good for the EU if they joined, they are much more right wing than the typical membership. Though I don’t think that being in the EU would be very good for Ukraine. They would probably be better off, in the long run, under Russian occupation than in the EU.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

True, former Soviet countries are generally far less work than in the west - all the more reason to try to exert influence over them and convert them to the faith.

Ukraine would probably be good for the EU if they joined,they are much more right wing than the typical membership. Though I don’t think that being in the EU would be very good for Ukraine. They would probably be better off, in the long run, under Russian occupation than in the EU.

Yeah, in the long run, that would mean Russia would already be more isolated than it already is, and its economy might go belly up unless Putin pulls a Lincoln and starts issuing his own Greenbacks. At the very least, Ukraine could end up Finlandized, but even Finland itself is starting to send military aid to Ukraine.

What could happen in the long run as well, is that by having burnt its bridges in Europe, Russia could focus more on building soft power in Asia, which they're doing right now, although South Korea and Japan have joined the sanctions train.

The ex-Warsaw Pact nations already experienced woke culture in their lifetime, and wouldn't want to experience such a thing again.

 

[JagerIV]

@ShieldWife but, I do more or less feel the same as you do. It is early, but it looks like this was a misstep by Putin unless he's way more ambitious than any of us think.

This will be the perfect excuse to tighten the grip at home, deflect all criticism, force all onto the same page, and cut off any exists. Subscribestar seems to be still up, but this seems the perfect excuse to go after such things. As well as take down more right wing channels that expressed outright Pro Russian views, if they don't lower the threshold to insufficiently anti-Russia.

I was thinking for a bit the Trucker Convoy might end up being more meaningful than the Ukrainian, but seeing all the closing ranks behind the Anti Russian narrative, and the sweeping powers it provides the perfect excuse for, this Ukrainian affair may be more impactful after all. Or at least its a powerful 1-2 punch.

The trucker protest pounds in that domestic opposition to the Cathedral will not be tolerated, and can be trivially crushed, while this is going to show that foreign opposition, or any ability of domestic opposition to make use of foreign opposition, will not be tolerated and can be trivially crushed.

The forces of evil have probably won. I'm not really sure its possible for them to lose. Heads they win, tails you lose and all that.

 

[Agent23]

Better Ukrainians play this role than Muslims and Africans, frankly. At least Ukrainians have more potential due to their higher average IQ. They're also less crime-prone and terrorism-prone, on average.

Only migration into the EU I support is that of hot asian waifus.
And 0 EU expansion!

 

[WolfBear]

Only migration into the EU I support is that of hot asian waifus.
And 0 EU expansion!

Upvoted for the waifus comment!

 

[Captain X]

Honestly I wonder how much of this support for Russia/Putin isn't just out of pure contrarianism - "the people I don't like hate Putin, therefore I should like Putin." To me this is like choosing between two slave-masters.

 

[Agent23]

2S4 - 240 mm self-propelled mortar, I always had a soft spot for it.



The problem is that the insurgency would be predominantly men between 18-35 years of age, Ukraine lost much of this population to emigration in the last few years and vast majority are unlikely to return, so the loss of their best trained troops to the encirclements in Donbass region would be a devastating blow to the nascent insurgency, so it's more likely the Ukrainian government would give in to Russian demands, rather than continue sacrificing it's citizens.

From what I know of Russian politics, Putin is actually something of a moderate, comparatively speaking; anyone who'd replace him would likely be a lot more aggressive.

Yeah, and IMO it will be Fentanol and migrants and cheap AKs for the EU if somebody just a bit less moderate than him takes power!
He has a very high approval rating, ad some of the people who disapprove of him are hardcore nationalists.

Me, if I were in charge of Russia I would have made sure that the chemical industry starts churning out lots of synthetic drugs, that the FSB and SVR have the right and the obligation to help these chemical products into the west, with employees being compensated as per the market rates for such services to the private sector, minus income tax of course.That there are direct air flights from Kabul and Islamabad and Cairo to the airfields nearest to the borders with Poland and Sweden and the Baltic countries.
Basically "draft" every single executive, chemist, engineer, computer scientist and economist in Russia and order them to read Unrestricted Warfare

Also, since Taiwan decided to be a good little bitch for the USA, well, it will:

1) Get no more palladium/other necessary raw materials.
1)Yeah, that massive chip mega factory TSMC has, be a shame if something would happen to it.
Like maybe an airplane full of "Jihadists" smashing into it, perhaps.


Also, now famous megaboomer shall be streaming about his trip from Kiev to Kharkov:

 

[Husky_Khan]

No One:

Agent23:

Yeah, and IMO it will be Fentanol and migrants and cheap AKs for the EU if somebody just a bit less moderate than him takes power!
He has a very high approval rating, ad some of the people who disapprove of him are hardcore nationalists.

Me, if I were in charge of Russia I would have made sure that the chemical industry starts churning out lots of synthetic drugs, that the FSB and SVR have the right and the obligation to help these chemical products into the west, with employees being compensated as per the market rates for such services to the private sector, minus income tax of course.That there are direct air flights from Kabul and Islamabad and Cairo to the airfields nearest to the borders with Poland and Sweden and the Baltic countries.
Basically "draft" every single executive, chemist, engineer, computer scientist and economist in Russia and order them to read Unrestricted Warfare

Also, since Taiwan decided to be a good little bitch for the USA, well, it will:

1) Get no more palladium/other necessary raw materials.
1)Yeah, that massive chip mega factory TSMC has, be a shame if something would happen to it.
Like maybe an airplane full of "Jihadists" smashing into it, perhaps.

Quoted for Posterity.

 

[Agent23]

No One:

Agent23:



Quoted for Posterity.

Hey,I am not done!
I'd also instruct the Orthodox church to give blanket pardons to anyone who is done or is about to do something nasty to the West.
Put in a bachelor/childlessness tax to boost population growth.
Cut places in universities for humanitarian degrees massively.
Limit abortion massively.
To prevent STD infections ship off all hookers in Russia to the west, after they have contracted STDs.
Learn Chinese so as to tell the ugly swine running Taiwan that she illegitimate and that there are 100 Topol-Ms targeted at her stolen,oversized US aircraft carrier if she complains about the Jihadis.Basically "what you gonna do about it!"
Relabel the East Ukraine intervention into a Glorious national reunification so as to better align with the Chinese rhetoric on Taiwan.
Peg the Ruble to a basket of Yuan and commodities and prohibit the holding of Euros and USDs.

Also,congratulations, Husky Karen, on getting all excited about a hypothetical discussion about some one more patriotic and less pro-Western being in charge of Russia.

There is an old joke here. "If you were a fish I'd be able to catch you with a walking stick." 😂

 

[PsihoKekec]

Me, if I were in charge of Russia I would have made sure that the chemical industry starts churning out lots of synthetic drugs, that the FSB and SVR have the right and the obligation to help these chemical products into the west, with employees being compensated as per the market rates for such services to the private sector, minus income tax of course.That there are direct air flights from Kabul and Islamabad and Cairo to the airfields nearest to the borders with Poland and Sweden and the Baltic countries.
Basically "draft" every single executive, chemist, engineer, computer scientist and economist in Russia and order them to read Unrestricted Warfare

That is an incredibly bad idea, there are some measures that sovereign state shouldn't take, unless done in retaliation and creating drug epidemics is one of them. Also such stuff has tendency to backfire, Russia already has considerable drug problem, this would make it worse as all drug producing countries also suffer from addiction problem as there is no way to effectively limit their proliferation, when you are making them.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Somebody: Makes a short reply.

Agent 23:

Also,congratulationson getting all excited about...

Also Agent 23:

Hey,I am not done!
I'd also instruct the Orthodox church to give blanket pardons to anyone who is done or is about to do something nasty to the West.
Put in a bachelor/childlessness tax to boost population growth.
Cut places in universities for humanitarian degrees massively.
Limit abortion massively.
To prevent STD infections ship off all hookers in Russia to the west, after they have contracted STDs.
Learn Chinese so as to tell the ugly swine running Taiwan that she illegitimate and that there are 100 Topol-Ms targeted at her stolen,oversized US aircraft carrier if she complains about the Jihadis.Basically "what you gonna do about it!"
Relabel the East Ukraine intervention into a Glorious national reunification so as to better align with the Chinese rhetoric on Taiwan.
Peg the Ruble to a basket of Yuan and commodities and prohibit the holding of Euros and USDs.

Yeah, and IMO it will be Fentanol and migrants and cheap AKs for the EU if somebody just a bit less moderate than him takes power!
He has a very high approval rating, ad some of the people who disapprove of him are hardcore nationalists.

Me, if I were in charge of Russia I would have made sure that the chemical industry starts churning out lots of synthetic drugs, that the FSB and SVR have the right and the obligation to help these chemical products into the west, with employees being compensated as per the market rates for such services to the private sector, minus income tax of course.That there are direct air flights from Kabul and Islamabad and Cairo to the airfields nearest to the borders with Poland and Sweden and the Baltic countries.
Basically "draft" every single executive, chemist, engineer, computer scientist and economist in Russia and order them to read Unrestricted Warfare

Also, since Taiwan decided to be a good little bitch for the USA, well, it will:

1) Get no more palladium/other necessary raw materials.
1)Yeah, that massive chip mega factory TSMC has, be a shame if something would happen to it.
Like maybe an airplane full of "Jihadists" smashing into it, perhaps.

EDIT:

Oh sorry, didn't see you edited your post after I quoted it.

Also,congratulations, Husky Karen, on getting all excited about a hypothetical discussion about some one more patriotic and less pro-Western being in charge of Russia.

There is an old joke here. "If you were a fish I'd be able to catch you with a walking stick." 😂

Yes very clever. There is another old joke here.

That is an incredibly bad idea, there are some measures that sovereign state shouldn't take, unless done in retaliation and creating drug epidemics is one of them. Also such stuff has tendency to backfire, Russia already has considerable drug problem, this would make it worse as all drug producing countries also suffer from addiction problem as there is no way to effectively limit their proliferation, when you are making them.

There is an old joke here. "If you were a fish I'd be able to catch you with a walking stick." 😂

 

[Agent23]

That is an incredibly bad idea, there are some measures that sovereign state shouldn't take, unless done in retaliation and creating drug epidemics is one of them. Also such stuff has tendency to backfire, Russia already has considerable drug problem, this would make it worse as all drug producing countries also suffer from addiction problem as there is no way to effectively limit their proliferation, when you are making them.

Works for China, and North Korea.
Also, the west already escalated things massively by giving Russia's enemies weapons and blocking Russia's central bank's cash reserves.
Central bank reserves are sovereign, blocking their reservies is IMO tantamount to a war declaration and a transparent attempt to force economic damage and regime change on Russia and destroy its financial system.

My personal motto is Do onto others as they'd do onto you, and do it first.
Again,this is a purely hypothetical discussion if someone less moderate gets to be in charge in Russia.

 

[Marduk]

Works for China.
Also, the west already escalated things massively by giving Russia's enemies weapons and blocking Russia's central bank's cash reserves.
Central bank reserves are sovereign, blocking their reservies is IMO tantamount to a war declaration and a transparent attempt to force economic damage and regime change on Russia and destroy its financial system.

My personal motto is Do onto others as they'd do onto you, and do it first.
Again,this is a purely hypothetical discussion if someone less moderate gets to be in charge in Russia.

Russia is giving the west's enemies weapons since ages. Serves them right.
Where are the weapons used by Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and the like manufactured and serviced?
Usually China or Russia.

 

[Agent23]

P.S @Agent23 - so called russian orthodox church is lead by KGB officer/not agent-officer/ so they are part of KGB,not church.And yes,they would do whatever Kremlin rulers wont.No matter who rule there.

Um,dude,it is an Orthodox church, Caesaropapism has been a thing for the Orthodox world ever since it has been the state religion.(Major reason why why we chose it.)
IIRC the initial schism happened because
1) The patriarch of Rome decided he was superior to the other dozen or so patriarchs in the two parts of the roman empire.
2) That he could boss around the emperor in Constantinople.

 

[ATP]

Um,dude,it is an Orthodox church, Caesaropapism has been a thing for the Orthodox world ever since it has been the state religion.
IIRC the initial schism happened because
1) The patriarch of Rome decided he was superior to the other dozen or so patriarchs in the two parts of the roman empire.
2) That he could boss around the emperor in Constantinople.

Nope,in Byzantium church never was part of state,not mention secret police.Emperor was head of it,but it is different thing.

And Schism happened,becouse emperors would continue to try boss over pope,when Jesus himself declared that His Church must be lead by Peter and his successors.Not emperor successors.

Byzantines was schizmatics,but KGBstan are not even that.They are not christians at all.

 

[Chiron]

Russia is giving the west's enemies weapons since ages. Serves them right.
Where are the weapons used by Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and the like manufactured and serviced?
Usually China or Russia.

Iran and Venezuela primarily use NATO weapons. AKs while seen more often in propaganda videos, make up only a 5th of the Inventory. Iranian Soldiers are more likely to carry an M-16 or G-3 than an AK though they do prefer the PKM over the M-60 for the GPMG role. Venezuela bought a limited amount of Russian Gear, but the bulk of it is still stamped made-in-the-USA.

But yeah, do go on.



I'm sure if asked and for a small price, the Taliban will gladly give Zelensky some gear and open up training camps...




Ukrainians have difficulties deploying their SRBMs, an indication that RuAF is doing Scud Hunting and has better air control than realized. We also hardly hear of Ukraine's aerial assets making sorties either. Drones are active, but their effect has been limited and reports have tailed off, an indication of their destruction or inability to do further sorties at the moment.



Well it is currently 4:06pm in Ukraine, so still time for more interesting revelations.