"not occupying Ukrainian civilians"? ...? Anyway... Moving past the fact that particular statement wouldn't pass the Turing test, the actual argument goes beyond idiotic. I mean, I guess their were no UK civilian casualties in WW2, since the Germans never occupied British civilians? Large scale bombing and artillery strikes are famous for the fact that they're physically incapable of hitting the wrong target.
Noticeably, you didn't answer the first part precisely because to do such invalidates your argument but you also cut out the part that directly addresses the points you make; you're completely and utterly disingenuous and it's laughably obvious. As I said, and to which you were too much of a coward to answer, what is the party line? Either Russia has inaccurate munitions its running out of or they are these super weapons inflicting tens of thousands of casualties that no one can produce evidence for?
Pick one and only one, but we both know you can't because you would then have to concede my argument is entirely right.
There's just too much wildly blatant misrepresentation here for it to be taken seriously. They're running out of half decent modern missiles, so they're forced to use older and role inappropriate weapons to make up the shortfall. Because they're forced to use shitty weapons, their accuracy sucks. Because their accuracy sucks, they have to fire more to have a decent chance of hitting their target. Because they're firing larger amounts of less accurate fire, they're more likely to cause collateral damage, including civilian casualties. Because the Russian leadership are 10 pounds of shit stuffed into a 5 pound bag, they don't care. Ergo, greater civilian casualties tha and necessary, even if they weren't practising scorched earth policies and indiscriminate targeting on the attack.
You're contradicting yourself into so many knots its hilarious; as I said above, what is the party line? Some how they're running out of missiles but they're firing more missiles to produce all of these casualties yet their accuracy sucks but some how they're making enough of them to fire more of them? It's a contradictory mess and that's exactly why you can never cite anything to prove it. At the end, you even go back on the above by saying scorched earth policies and indiscriminate targeting; okay, where are the bodies? You cited the Blitz earlier, the Brits were able to account for the civilian casualties with actual bodies, why can't Ukraine?
No, it's confirmation bias, and the degree to which you've decided to support an extraordinary partisan view is as confusing as it is sad.
Except for the fact its all supported by evidence, something you've categorically failed to do in this thread with me or anyone because you're entirely disingenuous, simple as. That's why you've from the get go had to use personal attacks; there's no substance to your arguments, you're just a hack.
I mean... That's not what projection is? As for what I personally am hoping to achieve, I'd like for idiots spouting bullshit to shut up, so I can use the thread as a source for details I might otherwise miss, and in a secondary role of showing a different political POV on that info. I don't come here to see a surprisingly clever, trained Russian dancing bear.
Thank you for in two sentences proving just how contradictory your arguments are and for proving my point definitively that you're all projection.
And, as we have all learned from your previous proclamations, all trends, no matter how short or what the surrounding context is, can be extended arbitrarily into the future for however long you'd like to give you the inescapable gospel truth.
And as I have also shown, to you and the other Ukie bros, you're all full of it with no underlying facts to back up what you're saying. Case in point is here you're making a fact free claim, simply because you have nothing else to use. The consistent trendline since at least late May was that the Ukrainians are losing the attrition battle, as all common sense dictates when facing an opponent with a large manpower and industrial base. Western aid, in the words of the Ukrainians themselves, is only enough to supply 10-15% of their needs. Russia has 10x their economic power Pre-War and roughly 4x their population; this is basically comparable to Japan and the United States in the Pacific War.
If you believe the trend lines will reverse, the ball is in your court to elucidate why. That you have not is precisely because you cannot, and is why I make all of you Ukie bros cope and seethe in these threads; I make you realize deep down you've been had and are insincere bull shitters.
Mate... If all you've seen in everything I've said is personal attacks, you've probably got a problem with egocentrisim too, or even narcissistic personality disorder making it hard to separate someone pointing out the things you say are stupid, as opposed to saying you are stupid.
If you think I left because you posted a bunch of links that you were prepared to argue yourself blue in the face to say they supported whatever bs you were on about at the time, well good for you. I hope you pat yourself on the back and treat yourself to a special cookie for your victory. The reality is that the shit you say is so disconnected from reality, and the arguments you make so entirely predicated on that confirmation biased view, I truly CBF to argue you any more.
You're right that I'm not going to change your mind. I can only hope that eventually reality will. In the meantime, despite some deeply unpleasant interactions, and huge amounts of hostility I've been met with elsewhere on the board, congratulations on being the first person I truly felt I had no point talking to, and nothing to gain from such, and thus making the one and only spot on my ignore list!
Again, lies and projection. Case in point with the personal attacks:
Are you seriously trying to suggest that somehow Ukrainian forces teleported to Russian controlled territory, attempted a river crossing back into their own area, and other elements of their own force destroyed them?
That's the stupidest take I've heard on any element of this since
@Agent23 was trying to guess how many hours the invasion would take if it did happen.
Really? That's pretty rich coming from you, after you tried to claim that the Russian branch of the BBC saying they had positively identified by name and rank 2,300 Russian forces in fact translated to a specific claim that such was the entirety of Russian losses.
Either your own reading comprehension is so abysmal you ought to step lightly accusing others of such, you were deliberately misrepresting the information hoping no one would bother to translate and read it themselves, or quite possibly both.
You're the definition of a cry bully, and that's why you're having to cope and seethe so much now that I continuously show you how much an empty husk you are lol. As for being someone who can't be bothered to argue with me, it's odd how this entire interaction started because
you responded to a post of mine that wasn't even directed at you. Same for our last two tangles, so please cut the crap.