Belarussian opposition agrees.
The Ukrainian General Staff claims lots of nonsense.
Belarussian opposition agrees.
The Ukrainian General Staff claims lots of nonsense.
>actually winningHow is "Russia is spending way less than us on their army" supposed to be an argument against them when, unlike us, they're actually winning? All it shows is that our army is ineffectively budgeted.
This is actually normal for modern warfare industrial level war is brutal as hell. The us is actually pretty damned good by historical standards.>actually winning
>had half a Vietnam War worth of US losses in 4 months and didn't win yet
How is "Russia is spending way less than us on their army" supposed to be an argument against them when, unlike us, they're actually winning? All it shows is that our army is ineffectively budgeted.
The Ukrainian General Staff claims lots of nonsense.
Belarussian opposition agrees.
So basically Polish state media and EU parliament aligned.Belsat TV is the only Belarusian language independent television channel. It was formed in 2007 by a group of Belarusian and Polish journalists as part of Telewizja Polska S.A. in partnership with Poland’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and several European governments and foundations. Preparations for its launching started in June 2006 under the leadership of Agnieszka Romaszewska-Guzy, present director of Belsat TV. The launching was done in cooperation with members of the Association of Belarusian Journalists – recipient of the prestigious Andrei Sakharov Human Rights Award of the European Parliament.
So? Poland, EU, Ukraine...You need to vary your media diet:
So basically Polish state media and EU parliament aligned.
American and British media for one, though they have been repeatedly embarrassed by their million articles about how Russia is just about to run out of guided missiles, which they started publishing in March and keep recycling every month. Belorussian dissidents and the Polish foreign office are hardly unbiased sources. Just like you shouldn't trust TASS and Russian backed media for accurate info. Do you trust RT America's perspectives on things in the US? Frankly at this point I highly doubt that anyone is saying what is actually going on with any of this, as actual accurate intel is very precious and not for public consumption. Media for public consumption is basically propaganda on all sides.So? Poland, EU, Ukraine...
Who else do you expect to talk about something like that if it was true?
Do you expect Russia to go "yeah, we are running out of arty ammo so we have to mooch off Luka's stockpile" if it was true?
As you ask:American and British media for one,
And Russia is using Soviet era anti ship missiles to do cruise missile's job just to let them save face!though they have been repeatedly embarrassed by their million articles about how Russia is just about to run out of guided missiles, which they started publishing in March and keep recycling every month.
And it's working. This whole proxy war has been gigantic demonstration of just how much money the American military-industry complex has been embezzling by comparing the result to a rival military which simultaneously has much lower costs and doesn't get driven out of their colonies by barbarian hordes with rusty ex-soviet equipment.And Russia is using Soviet era anti ship missiles to do cruise missile's job just to let them save face!
Your points are more pitiful than usual and destroy your credibility in ways i could only wish to do myself.
Your points even question themselves now.
And even if they didn't, it doesn't mean that the context for the quoted 100k figure isn't what i've quoted, while the alternative OHCHR figure, dealing with hard confirmed figures, says nothing of the 100k.
And it's working. This whole proxy war has been gigantic demonstration of just how much money the American military-industry complex has been embezzling by comparing the result to a rival military which simultaneously has much lower costs and doesn't get driven out of their colonies by barbarian hordes with rusty ex-soviet equipment.
...Are you serious?
Aren't they much cheaper than the the high tech missiles by default ?And it's working. This whole proxy war has been gigantic demonstration of just how much money the American military-industry complex has been embezzling by comparing the result to a rival military which simultaneously has much lower costs and doesn't get driven out of their colonies by barbarian hordes with rusty ex-soviet equipment.
...Are you serious?
As much as I hate to admit it he has a point.
He really doesn't. The US military has utterly crushed every enemy it's fought since the Vietnam war. Politicians trying to use it for tasks it isn't fit for has eventually resulted in withdrawals with no ultimate objectives achieved, sometimes because there aren't any ultimate objectives at all.
To be fair, the Taliban were tiny, on top of being very poorly equipped. Iraq, on the other hand, had a massive military, over 600k men, and thousands of tanks, artillery, etc, the same sort of soviet equipment Ukraine has. Oh, and the US carried out those campaigns from the far side of the world.
Ukraine is literally half-surrounded by Russia and Belorussia, and the Russians haven't managed to successfully carry out the initial crushing victory, much less get to the 'decades of occupation' part of things. On top of that, the largest Ukrainian victory, stopping the push on Kyiv and then turning it back, were won before bulk western aid was mobilized, so that much can reasonably be said to have been accomplished by their own strength and will to fight.
Then there's the casualty disparity. US losses in the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were miniscule. Sustained losses over time did gradually add up, but you had to go months to have the same number of KIA Russia has taken in days during their invasion of Ukraine.
No, the Russian military is not outperforming the US in spite of lower spending. It's actually underperforming compared to the expectations that were calibrated based on its lower spending. They may still win by sheer advantage in size, that's far from impossible, but even if that does happen, they've already thoroughly humiliated themselves on the world stage, and driven two more nations into NATO.
(Note that I'm not trying to argue that the US military-industrial complex doesn't have embezzlement and corruption issues. It does. They just demonstrably aren't anywhere near as bad as Russia's.)
Oy, you four bamboozle off to DumbAss already!Could Russia beat the US and western europe in a conventional war?
No thats why we are funding the Ukraine because we want this to be Russias last war. We do not want them to escalate to nuclear war and we understand that the Ukraine would not be the end of it. The problem is Russia is one of those countries that you absolutely have to fucking gut before they give up.
And I don't think its likely the Ukraine can do that.