Bloomberg 2020, the (Five) Hundred Million Dollar Man!

[Airedale260]

They are scared of losing the Supreme Court for decades. So they need Trump to lose. They can't let Bernie win either, or the crazies would feel vindicated and nearly impossible to get rid of afterwards. So for even a chance of reaching their goal, they need Biden to be the candidate.

Basically this, although I don't think Biden is going to go down easily; I think there's a decent chance he could actually win. Granted we still have eight months to go and anything is possible. But Biden doesn't have the same extremely negative numbers Hillary had so [shrug].

 

[Cherico]

They are scared of losing the Supreme Court for decades. So they need Trump to lose. They can't let Bernie win either, or the crazies would feel vindicated and nearly impossible to get rid of afterwards. So for even a chance of reaching their goal, they need Biden to be the candidate. Otherwise they are in a lose-lose situation in the election.

Also do not overestimate the damage Sanders run and loss would have. UK is a good demonstration. While Corbyn himself has resigned after the epic loss, "Corbynism" is still a powerful influence in the party.

The democrats can easily survive and thrive with out the supreme court.

If their worried about Gay marrage don't that issue is settled they won, like wise civil rights in general is a finished victory. They can still have their policies in their states they just cant enforce things nationally unless they respect the consiution. Biggest change is that the second amendment is probally going to actually get some teeth and that their not going to be allowed to censor people they don't like.

The republicans survived a left wing court they can do just fine.

 

[Spartan303]

The democrats can easily survive and thrive with out the supreme court.

If their worried about Gay marrage don't that issue is settled they won, like wise civil rights in general is a finished victory. They can still have their policies in their states they just cant enforce things nationally unless they respect the consiution. Biggest change is that the second amendment is probally going to actually get some teeth and that their not going to be allowed to censor people they don't like.

The republicans survived a left wing court they can do just fine.

They've already lost. The big detractors for people against the Republicans were two big social issues. Gay Marriage and the legalization of Marijuana. Ironically, losing that fight for Gay Marriage was such a boon. Especially when you phrase the argument in a Civil Liberties argument rather than a Religious one.

For instance, take me for example. I opposed Gay marriage on Religious grounds. Still do. But as a Civil Liberties issue I wouldn't oppose it. For me, my Faith is my business between God, the Church and Myself. I don't have the right to impose my Religious beliefs on others because not everyone in our country is a Christian. And there are many who feel the same way. And the issue of Pot looks like its going to be handled state to state. As for Judges, Trump has appointed what? 220 Judges? Give or take. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg isn't long for this world. I think she's just holding on, on the hope a Democrat, any Democrat takes office. Either way I think she just needs to retire and work on her health, because I can't see the job doing her any favors for her in terms of stress.

The Judiciary of the Country has been radically changed for the better with judges who are promoting constitutionalism first and foremost.

 

[Sailor.X]

We all knew this was going to happen. I just made 200 bucks on that bet AND a steak dinner of my choice. I mean, it was so obvious to anyone who has paid attention to the Democratic establishment what they would do. They hate Bernie. They don't see that he could win against Trump. What's more? They're right. He can't. But then, neither can Joe Biden either. But Biden is Establishment. He's been 'their guy' for decades now. But he's about to get a rude wakeup call.

Trump is absolutely going to thrash him. He wont hold back. And the Democratic party, what's left of it, will crumble before the steamroll of Trump.

I eagerly await the fall debates between a fully sane and in his right mind President Trump. And a completely senile Joe Biden. Those debates will be written about for centuries to come.

 

[Spartan303]

I eagerly await the fall debates between a fully sane and in his right mind President Trump. And a completely senile Joe Biden. Those debates will be written about for centuries to come.

That shit is going to be fucking GLORIOUS to behold!

 

[Marduk]

I eagerly await the fall debates between a fully sane and in his right mind President Trump. And a completely senile Joe Biden. Those debates will be written about for centuries to come.

We will get the answer to a very fun question - is it worse to be senile, or socialist?

 

[PeliusAnar]

We will get the answer to a very fun question - is it worse to be senile, or socialist?

Hmmm.....the true answer is both.

Anyways since this thread is about Bloomberg, and since he just suspended his campaign, I am giving him the award of burning $500,000,000 for no reason. I vote that this thread becomes a meme thread about wasting money in the most pointless ways possible. Imagine spending that much to go on national television twice and get insulted in front of millions of people and labeled a racist, bigoted, person who tells women that they should just kill their unborn babies. Let's try to come up with worse ways to spend that much money. I wanted to say burning it, but that creates heat in the cold winter months, or throwing it out a window, but arguably someone with more common sense would get that money, so a net win. The things that come to mind that are arguably worse are, funding Neo-Nazis, funding terrorism, buying 100,000 $5,000 hookers for an hour for a city wide orgy, and finally paying for surgery to replace his legs with his arms and his arms with his legs.

Yeah....................it was a massive waste of money. Gods, I just feel sick thinking about all that money being wasted.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

 

[Marduk]

Yeah....................it was a massive waste of money. Gods, I just feel sick thinking about all that money being wasted.

Not necessarily. According to one theory i've heard, he did it because this way he got to spend a large portion of that sum on campaigning against Trump and Sanders without counting that as any usual political donation, legally speaking, because he was spending it on his own campaign.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

No cent wasted by your enemy is regrettable. The more they waste, the less they accomplish.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Mike Bloomberg drops out of the 2020 presidential race and endorses Joe Biden

Bloomberg suspended his campaign after getting trounced on Super Tuesday, ending a short campaign that cost over $500 million.

www.businessinsider.com

Hmmm.....the true answer is both.

Anyways since this thread is about Bloomberg, and since he just suspended his campaign, I am giving him the award of burning $500,000,000 for no reason. I vote that this thread becomes a meme thread about wasting money in the most pointless ways possible. Imagine spending that much to go on national television twice and get insulted in front of millions of people and labeled a racist, bigoted, person who tells women that they should just kill their unborn babies. Let's try to come up with worse ways to spend that much money. I wanted to say burning it, but that creates heat in the cold winter months, or throwing it out a window, but arguably someone with more common sense would get that money, so a net win. The things that come to mind that are arguably worse are, funding Neo-Nazis, funding terrorism, buying 100,000 $5,000 hookers for an hour for a city wide orgy, and finally paying for surgery to replace his legs with his arms and his arms with his legs.

Yeah....................it was a massive waste of money. Gods, I just feel sick thinking about all that money being wasted.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

It did give those political workers well paid jobs temporarily for a good gig. Actual Berg bucks compared to Yang bucks.

But he fucked his fellow Democrats poaching their political staff they rely on to do their campaigns.



Strange ad. Big gay ice cream?

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

Bloomberg spent half a million dollars for around 2 dozen delegates and pulled votes away from the only other faux-normie candidate who had a good shot at winning (Biden). This turned into little more than a publicity stunt, he basically did the thing that people like me thought Donald Trump was doing when he announced he was running in 2015!

 

[gral]

Not necessarily. According to one theory i've heard, he did it because this way he got to spend a large portion of that sum on campaigning against Trump and Sanders without counting that as any usual political donation, legally speaking, because he was spending it on his own campaign.

I've heard this as well. There are some adepts of this theory saying Bloomberg bought the Democrat Party(for this cycle and future ones) using money that was officially earmarked for his campaign. Time will tell whether that's true or not.

 

[Terthna]

There's a rumor I've heard that the only reason Bloomberg dropped out, was because Biden offered to make him his Vice President. This would still give him the power he needs to end the trade war, and tie us closer to China; because it's not like Biden is against doing either of those things.

 

[S'task]

There's a rumor I've heard that the only reason Bloomberg dropped out, was because Biden offered to make him his Vice President. This would still give him the power he needs to end the trade war, and tie us closer to China; because it's not like Biden is against doing either of those things.

If that's the case, given that Biden has also already declared that Beto "Yes we're coming for your AR-15s" O'Rouke will be his "gun control czar", Biden appears to be ensuring that the Gun rights crowd, which it should be noted has been a bit soured on Trump, will be pushed further into the Republican's hands AND be highly energized to get out and vote.

 

[Sailor.X]

If that's the case, given that Biden has also already declared that Beto "Yes we're coming for your AR-15s" O'Rouke will be his "gun control czar", Biden appears to be ensuring that the Gun rights crowd, which it should be noted has been a bit soured on Trump, will be pushed further into the Republican's hands AND be highly energized to get out and vote.

You can thank Virginia for getting the guns rights crowd backing Trump. They saw what happens when you don't support people who will at least not try to strip your rights. Sometimes you have to vote tactically instead of this is on principle. Sometimes voting or not voting on principle can bite you in the ass and they are not gonna make that mistake again.

 

[Terthna]

You can thank Virginia for getting the guns rights crowd backing Trump. They saw what happens when you don't support people who will at least not try to strip your rights. Sometimes you have to vote tactically instead of this is on principle. Sometimes voting or not voting on principle can bite you in the ass and they are not gonna make that mistake again.

Trump's issue with gun control is a matter of ignorance; whereas with most Democrats, theirs is a matter of ideology. There is always hope that the former might change his mind at a later date.

 

[Tyzuris]

There's a rumor I've heard that the only reason Bloomberg dropped out, was because Biden offered to make him his Vice President. This would still give him the power he needs to end the trade war, and tie us closer to China; because it's not like Biden is against doing either of those things.

So two guys in their late 70s as POTUS and VP?

Not a chance. Should the GOP claim the House back, they'd be dangerously close to GOP snatching the Presidency if both kick the bucket simply due to old age. Mind you both Biden and Bloomberg at the inauguration next year will have passed the average male life expectancy of US. And Presidency ages people at a faster rate.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Ten years too early to be a shitposter to beat Trump.

 

[S'task]

Trump's issue with gun control is a matter of ignorance; whereas with most Democrats, theirs is a matter of ideology. There is always hope that the former might change his mind at a later date.

I mean, ish? Trump made some BIG blunders in backing Red flag laws as a concept and basically saying that "due process can come later" which was REALLY offputting to a lot of pro-gun (and pro-constitutionalist) folks. Plus he did implement a bump stock ban (though, frankly, I personally have trouble getting outraged over that one, but that's a longer discussion). He's a New Yorker after all, and New Yorkers do have a lot of issues with privately held firearms for reasons I cannot fathom.

And Bloomburg and Biden both have displayed MASSIVE ignorance on the matter of guns. For Bloomburg this is especially strange since that's his KEY issue for the last ten years. Ignorance of guns and statistics surrounding them appear to be the norm for gun control folks.

Which is why Trump is considered untrustworthy. Trump is, well, he can be quite emotional and as guns aren't his thing, he's not well informed on them, which makes him very susceptible the the usual pro-gun control arguments based on emotion and the demand to "do something". To be perfectly honest, if gun rights folks were not a major constituency for the Republicans, I think Trump would be just as gun grabby as the typical Dem, he just usually keeps it all in check due to political alliances.

He's also not made any direct bargains with the gun rights movements. It's not that he's taken them for granted per se, but again, I think that's it's not an issue that is necessarily visible to him normally. It might be because it's a single issue coalition, and Trump has generally worked to build alliances with mutli-issue factions of the GOP. For instance, Trump explicitly courted the Religious Right and they agreed to back him, and in return, Trump has backed them to the hilt on the big issues that concern the Religious Right: abortion, religious liberty, school choice, and appointing conservative judges.

Part of the issue Gun Rights has is that they're generally single issue voters who then scatter around the rest of the political spectrum, and even on that single issue there's no guarantee. I've spoken with a few folks who consider gun rights really important, but put other issues as more important, usually LGBT issues or abortion as being more important than gun rights... and then get confused when the Democrats they voted for, instead of moving on those issues, go after guns.

 

[The Original Sixth]

They've already lost.

Correction. The Democrats have lost this round.

The big detractors for people against the Republicans were two big social issues. Gay Marriage and the legalization of Marijuana. Ironically, losing that fight for Gay Marriage was such a boon. Especially when you phrase the argument in a Civil Liberties argument rather than a Religious one.

You aren't wrong that these victories have undercut their field, but the real issue is that the Democrats are sort of retarded when it comes to math and demographics. The Democrat's strategy is based on minority groups displacing the European majority. The Democrats looked at the influx of immigrants into the Mid-West south, the growing Deep South black population, and the influx of other immigrants from around the world and realized this was a growing power bloc.

The problem is that they believed that the shift would occur faster than it has. A lot of the power thinkers in the DNC are from California and New York City. And especially in California, white people are being swept away by immigrants and lower birth rates. The problem for the DNC is that this is not a good national strategy. They lost the Blue Wall in 2016 because the vast demographic in New England territory is full of white old people.

For instance, take me for example. I opposed Gay marriage on Religious grounds. Still do. But as a Civil Liberties issue I wouldn't oppose it. For me, my Faith is my business between God, the Church and Myself. I don't have the right to impose my Religious beliefs on others because not everyone in our country is a Christian. And there are many who feel the same way. And the issue of Pot looks like its going to be handled state to state. As for Judges, Trump has appointed what? 220 Judges? Give or take. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg isn't long for this world. I think she's just holding on, on the hope a Democrat, any Democrat takes office. Either way I think she just needs to retire and work on her health, because I can't see the job doing her any favors for her in terms of stress.

The Judiciary of the Country has been radically changed for the better with judges who are promoting constitutionalism first and foremost.

Honestly, the gay debate isn't over. Not entirely.

Because see, the court is shifting conservative and all it takes is one (or a handful) of states to sue over the issue of gay marriage and if the courts are right leaning enough, it evaporates. And worst of all for the Democrats, most second and third generation immigrants are right leaning socially as are African American voters.

And from the few personal discussions I've had with some friends of mine who are black (who aren't political), they're starting to get sick and tired of getting their heads bitten off when they want to talk about how they disapprove of gay marriage. The DNC only currently retains the black bloc vote out of sheer inertia if they don't do something to address this issue.