Canadian Military Discussion Thread

Floridaman

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If i remember correctly,british decided that keeping Canada would be impossible,so choosed delaing action on land and fleet blocking american trade.
Correct while the US plan involved taking it and using the navy to shell the british to the negotiation table.
 

Zachowon

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The US could simply dust off one of its old War Plans, and modify it to just aim at Canada.

There's also the fact that the US could also swoop into the Yukon, NWT, and Nunavut from their position in Alaska.

With that aside though:


The German Leopard tank was developed during the Cold War, and given that Canada and what was then West Germany were both NATO members, the US didn't really raise a fuss about it. Now on the other hand, if Canada were to field a Soviet built tank, that would be a totally different issue. Considering the level of Canada's economy, their military expenditure is on the same level as the Baltic States.

Perhaps the most ironic thing about the US military industry is that while they're basically the biggest cash cow, it's that their equipment is far too expensive to produce and maintain. If they would simply just streamline some of their military technologies and go for the whole "easy to produce, easy to maintain" mentality, along with simplification of various weapons, not only could they still earn profits from the sales of the streamlined and simplified US military weapons and equipment, but that they could lower the price of them, making the demand for the streamlined and simplified US military weapons go through the roof. Basic economics.

For example, the Stingray light tank that is used by Thailand, Canada could have told the US that they're interested in purchasing that tank, instead of going for the more expensive Leopard. Being a naive fool that I was back then, I asked a Canadian soldier why they don't just purchase T-72 battle tanks, before the soldier told me that they're mass produced junk.

And that's not getting to the issue of the Canadian Air Force and Navy as well, with the issue surrounding HMCS Chicoutimi and the attempt by Doughboy to replace the CF-18s. Once again, my emphasis on streamlining and simplifying military equipment could have been applied to the failed F-22 fighter plane and would have been earmarked for foreign markets, instead of the notoriously delayed F-35.
The F-22 isn't failed.
Yhe reason the US is the best and most powerful military is because we make good durable equipment that isn't cheap throw away shit like the Ruskies.
As we have been seeing.

The US MIC makes pretty robust in most situations equipment.
It isn't cheap because there are some parts specially made. Sometimes it is over priced.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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Although, to be fair, there's also NORAD that would be able to detect hostile aircraft approaching the shared North American space as well.

Other than the US, the only foes that Canada would have to worry about would be Russia and China, but given that their naval capabilities are questionable at best, their attempts at an amphibious invasion would end in disaster, unless they take Haida Gwaii and Vancouver Island. Even then, we would also have the US navy to shield our territorial waters.

Which is exactly why Canada's navy also needs a hell lot more attention as well. Especially regarding our submarines. We could either collaborate with fellow NATO member states on building submarines (France and Germany in mind), or we could outright purchase second hand submarines from them. Japan is a no go due to certain restrictions on their military, but their submarines might fit the Canadian Navy a bit well. Before the Scorpene-class subs were chosen by Australia, they were at one point interested in a few Soryu-class submarines.
 

bintananth

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Still is. Canada's plans for dealing with hypothetically getting invaded by anyone but the US are essentially "the US will deal with it since they don't want a hostile state within walking distance" and for an American invasion, "lose".
Mexico's plans are pretty similar.

Basically: "Invade us and the big bully to the North who doesn't particularly like Hispanics will be extremely upset with you."
 

TheRomanSlayer

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Mexico's plans are pretty similar.

Basically: "Invade us and the big bully to the North who doesn't particularly like Hispanics will be extremely upset with you."
Yeah, although which country would be insane enough to invade Mexico of all nations, in this day and age?
 

Bear Ribs

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Somehow I'm tickled this guy is a genius at logistics but apparently can't read a map.

Enemy Commander: "How is he doing this? We've completely cut off the hyperspace routes to his forces! He shouldn't be able to keep supplying them!"
Enemy Advisor: "It's brilliant, he's been sending his supply ships in the wrong direction the entire time so they've been taking a roundabout path and traveling through our rear lines. Our rearguard has been assuming it was civilian traffic because there was no reasonable way enemy supply ships were coming from behind them."
 

TheRomanSlayer

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Going back to the Canadian military, if there was seriously going to be modernization, what should take priority overall in this case? I’d say that Canada could invest in more anti-air weapons, since that would help NORAD. More warships to patrol the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic Oceans, and definitely upgrading the infantry equipment as well. Unfortunately, we’re already deep in too much debt to even solve the damn issue.
 

Captain X

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Going back to the Canadian military, if there was seriously going to be modernization, what should take priority overall in this case? I’d say that Canada could invest in more anti-air weapons, since that would help NORAD. More warships to patrol the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic Oceans, and definitely upgrading the infantry equipment as well. Unfortunately, we’re already deep in too much debt to even solve the damn issue.
I'd worry about good leadership first. Y'all need to purge all the woke nonsense first. Anti-air probably wouldn't be a bad second thing, though.
 

AnimalNoodles

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Going back to the Canadian military, if there was seriously going to be modernization, what should take priority overall in this case? I’d say that Canada could invest in more anti-air weapons, since that would help NORAD. More warships to patrol the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic Oceans, and definitely upgrading the infantry equipment as well. Unfortunately, we’re already deep in too much debt to even solve the damn issue.

air and navy, with an expanded militia and airlift capabilities.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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air and navy, with an expanded militia and airlift capabilities.
We do have the Reserve Forces as our equivalent of the National Guard.

Definitely the air force and navy need a lot of modernizations, expansions, and improvements as well. As I've said with regards to what the US defense industry should do, simplification of their military equipment could go a long way in increasing their sales, even if it does sound a bit more distasteful. Canada did design its own version of the M3 Lee in the Ram tank, but never actually saw combat during WWII. So, here's the list of what I would propose that Canada could have:

AIR FORCE:
- (Possible or not) Embraer C-390 Millennium (transport)
- A few extra Boeing C-17 Globemaster III planes
- Fighter aircraft would be a tricky issue, but at the moment, the Canadian variant of the F-35 is being developed for the Canadian Air Force. If I had to choose, it would either be a KAI T-50 Golden Eagle fighter aircraft, or a Canadian variant of the Eurofighter Tycoon.
- Possibly more helicopters, transport and attack ones.

NAVY:
- (currently being built) Protecteur-class auxiliary vessel
- (already built) HMCS Harry DeWolf
- Canadian Surface Combatant surface warships
- submarines that would replace the ageing Victoria-class submarines.
 

Captain X

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Captain X

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And you won't have much of a military as long as he or someone like him is in charge, unfortunately.
 

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