Typhonis
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If you know where to look you can find all sorts of secrets online. Like the Colonels 11 herbs and spices."But, but I have to prove some guy on the Internet wrong!"
If you know where to look you can find all sorts of secrets online. Like the Colonels 11 herbs and spices."But, but I have to prove some guy on the Internet wrong!"
Sure. But then they should be ready for a firing squad. Jackass posted the Sidewinder's technical specs and blueprints to prove the game version was wrong and making the less capable Russian equivalent too op in comparison"But, but I have to prove some guy on the Internet wrong!"
After 80 years and testing they identified those in the early 2000s the ratios are where the secret is at and to use lard to fry the chicken.If you know where to look you can find all sorts of secrets online. Like the Colonels 11 herbs and spices.
Welfare given by states is still welfare.Federal is the only thing that matters. People should only care about Federal and THEIR OWN STATE. It's not my problem what stupid crap California gets up to they are not my government.
Islamists, right fucking now, are trying to terrorize some of world's most important trade routes.Also lol really? Islamists are your big scary threat that's keeping you up at night? It's not the middle ages the Ottoman Empire is dead.
Cease with the red herrings.Islam won't be able to grow by the sword anymore, there is no Islamic nation or empire that is about to invade America or Europe and force you to convert pay a Dhimmi protection money or die.
China probably lies about their spending, and a lot less of it goes to salaries and scams like the green fuel thing. Even if not, being equal to the enemy is not something anyone sane should aim at, minimum 3x superiority is something to aim for. Otherwise the result of any war would be uncertain and costly, and on that account alone surrender monkeys will come out with their screeching.As to China's trying to get an empire in the Pacfic? So? Again we spend more than them already even if we cut our funding by half we'd still have twice as much as them.
True, you need 1.600 trillion army. If it was a good idea to lower defense spending leftists would not be spending a tenth of the effort they do in pushing it over last half century.Who cares if leftists say it? That doesen't mean it's not true. We don't need 800 billion for the army.
No, other developed countries are even worse in terms of bang for the buck. The problem is that a Chinese soldier gets paid hardly anything compared to a western minimum wage worker even, and same goes for Chinese workers in military equipment factories.No we don't need that much to keep China and check. Again we have more than 8 times as much as China spends. There are two options @Zachowon tell me which it is.
Option 1 we don't need to spend that much because the companies are overcharging us and our enemies and allies and other nations with more reasonable spending our getting more bang for their buck and they are actually close to us. In this case we should reduce spending because we are getting ripped off and see about replacing everything about the way our Army does everything so that we can get efficient military procurment.
You need to be able to fight China, Russia and friends club at the same time, you do not outmass them, and you out-tech them by few decades, that's the reality. People who have no idea about these things and have an axe they are fanatical about grinding, like leftists and isolationists, cannot change that with their wishful thinking.Option 2 the money we spend is not overcharged and we do really outmass and outtech everyone else. In this case we should cut our spending because we don't need to be able to fight the top 10 military spenders after us at the same time. Especially if half that list are our allies. Again if we want to keep China in check we can reduce spending so we only have twice as much as them, and also rely on our allies to fight also. After all Japan is supposed to be in those top 10.
The only reason we'd need that much money spent on the army is if we were wanting to have an empire.
It has nothing to do with neocon red herring you and leftists love. They have low end stealth fighters already, hence, one generation behind. It's not a lead that can be kept with reduced military spending, many question if it won't slowly close without increasing it.LOL yeah right you saying their "navy" or air force is advanced is eye roll worthy. Come on these arguments are things neo cons switch one second we are the best and have the most advanced tech that no one can catch up to when they say we should confront China and not be afraid of them or cautious. and then when they want something like more funding they say China is right on our heels and will overtake us.
True, you need double that for comfort.Again we don't need $800 billion, if we need that much money to compete with desert barbarians with drones then we are pathetic.
The ability to deploy a division of troops anywhere in the world within 72 hours. The first battalion arriving in 24 hours with the rest landing within 48 hours of the first arrivals securing the area for the seabees to build a beachhead. I love the logistics involved.@King Arts the US maintains a fleet of 11 air craft carriers and the largest af in the world.
Do you know why?
Because we made sure that we are in a position that benefits us economicly. Thr world uses our currency as the main trade currency.
Do you know what helps keep that there? The capability to project our forces to fight anywhere, anytime, we execute. Capable of destroying threats to us or our allies quickly.
But lowering that funding just makes us more un prepared. China is increasing thier money, and have more man power then we do.
What do we have? The most advanced and powerful military.
The DoD is one of the largest employers in the world.
The military is more important then damn near everything else. If we stop even fir a second our adversaries will take advantage of it.
Carter is a point about that. He started to downsize us some and it put us behind the soviets...
Include slavers in that too.As to the pirates. Burn them out. Hostis Humanis Generis.
That's a givenInclude slavers in that too.
As long as that definition includes 'human traffickers'.That's a given
As long as that definition includes 'human traffickers'.
Please don't try to go down that argument route, it will only hurt what funding the military has and hurt recruitment.The military is more important then damn near everything else.
The reason for eh hatred as soldiers came home was due to the media making it the first war the public could actually watch and see. The media helped tear down anything the military had as "its war" ROEs got stricter cause of it and more soldiers died because of civilians pearl clutching.Please don't try to go down that argument route, it will only hurt what funding the military has and hurt recruitment.
I cannot think of anything that will induce spite among civies towards the US military more than more hollow attempts to place the military's importance above the rest of the nation's needs or wants, instead of along side.
The military feeling of being more important than civies, when it civies who actually make up the vast majority of the nation you serve and are the ones who make the decisions about troop benefit packages via Congress, is towards feeling like it's biting the hand that feeds.
You want the VA to not be shit, you yourself said nothing the DoD can do about that, so it's up to civies to do the advocating.
When the military shits on the people who can actually get shit fixed for them, kinda counter-productive, don't you think?
And you remember what happened to Veitnam vets because of their leadership's pride, ego, and the military's bad image back home because of how many generals and admiral wanted to keep fighting a war the public did not want.
You want that for when you get out of service?
The US military needs to learn to stop biting the hands that feed out of pride and ego; the US public doesn't worship the uniform anymore, like it did for a while after WW2, and the military cannot take the US public's 'non-security concerns' for granted anymore.
We should not have been in Veitnam to begin with, and the public was finally made aware what was being done 'in their name', yet without their approval.The reason for eh hatred as soldiers came home was due to the media making it the first war the public could actually watch and see. The media helped tear down anything the military had as "its war" ROEs got stricter cause of it and more soldiers died because of civilians pearl clutching.
No, because that is how the military fucks things up for the civies back home and starts to think of itself as better than/more important than the civies.There is a divide that needs to be understood Bacle. Let the military war and let the politicians and civilians worry about the aftermath.
I've met plenty of vets who did not like the DoD at all anymore, and who often advise against going into the military.Yes the president is the commander and chief and is a civilian, but the SECDEF is often if not always a vet for a reason. To make sure the military cab do its job.
No matter how open or public the military and the DoD are, we will always be a punching bag for ignorant civilians. Why do you think most vets have a connection with each other and those they served with more then most.
No, not more than 90%, and the military is needed along side 90% of those social programs.The military is needed more then 90% of social programs. The military is needed more then damn near everything.
Yes there are things mire important, like border security and fixing our economy.
But trying to go all "This is the reason why shit is for the military because of how we see civilians."
Never should have been in Veitnam to begin with, as I have said before.Civilians are the reason we didn't take grounding Vietnam.
Yes, because amazingly the US public doesn't want to generally let the military do what wants without oversight and the ability to rein them in.Civilians are the reason we had such horrible ROE in the ME...
What the US military can and cannot do is dictated by the civilian government and Congress for a damn good reason.If civilians really want to have the military be more open, stop thinking you know what it is we can and can't do, and making us lose lives die to civilians not understanding war
The reason for eh hatred as soldiers came home was due to the media making it the first war the public could actually watch and see. The media helped tear down anything the military had as "its war" ROEs got stricter cause of it and more soldiers died because of civilians pearl clutching.
There is a divide that needs to be understood Bacle. Let the military war and let the politicians and civilians worry about the aftermath.
Yes the president is the commander and chief and is a civilian, but the SECDEF is often if not always a vet for a reason. To make sure the military cab do its job.
No matter how open or public the military and the DoD are, we will always be a punching bag for ignorant civilians. Why do you think most vets have a connection with each other and those they served with more then most.
The military is needed more then 90% of social programs. The military is needed more then damn near everything.
Yes there are things mire important, like border security and fixing our economy.
But trying to go all "This is the reason why shit is for the military because of how we see civilians."
Civilians are the reason we didn't take grounding Vietnam. Civilians are the reason we had such horrible ROE in the ME...
If civilians really want to have the military be more open, stop thinking you know what it is we can and can't do, and making us lose lives die to civilians not understanding war
But..Machomet was slaver,you knew! what about muslim feelings?Include slavers in that too.
We gotta spend more then.
Because we can't let them out do us