Coup in Mali

Husky_Khan

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Some people have election cycles. Others have coup cycles. Eight years after overthrowing the Mali government back in 2012 over mismanagement in response to the Tuareg Rebellion and Islamist Insurgency, the military has launched another coup to depose an order of government that was established in the wake of their last successful coup. They already captured several senior political leaders including the President and PM and have promised new elections after a short transitional period.
 
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Seems to be it succeeded, the “international community” condemned it as usual(despite the coup plotters apparently coming into the capital upon cheering crowds which shows just how unpopular the government was).

They’ll probably have elections in the next six months or so.
 

PsihoKekec

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I think they are still some 40-50 years away from fully embracing the third world political dynamics.
 
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Eh? I expect an Islamized Europe to be mostly riven by gangs that war on the ruined streets. The migrants aren't bringing institutions, not even their own.
 

Husky_Khan

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AHA I knew there was a Mali thread.

Mali apparently has given France 72 hours to leave the country. They apparently aren't fans of France being critical of Mali's new coup placed government saying they'll remain in power until 2025 among other public statements critical of the military junta.

France24 said:
France has had troops in Mali since 2013, when it intervened to drive back Islamist militants who were advancing on the capital. The Islamists have since regrouped and are waging an increasingly bloody insurgency across the Sahel region.

Relations between Mali and its former coloniser deteriorated this month when the junta went back on an agreement to organize elections in February and proposed holding power until 2025.

It has also deployed Russian private military contractors, which some European countries have said is incompatible with their mission.

Mali last week asked Denmark to withdraw its troops belonging to a European task force in the country, which set off a fresh crisis. France asked Mali to let the Danish troops stay, and Mali's government spokesman told France to keep its "colonial reflexes" to itself.


Keep in mind, this is the SECOND coup. The Opening Post is from 2020 and only covered the FIRST coup. There was yet another coup last May which replaced the civilian transitional government which was put in place by the August 2020 Coup leaders back in January of 2021. ;)
 

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Keep in mind, this is the SECOND coup. The Opening Post is from 2020 and only covered the FIRST coup. There was yet another coup last May which replaced the civilian transitional government which was put in place by the August 2020 Coup leaders back in January of 2021. ;)

Reminds me of the old joke about why 3rd-world governments hate pigeons.
 

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Barely a few months in country and Russia's Wagner Group is being investigated for either aiding or perpetrating the massacre of over two hundred Malian civilians in cooperation with the new Malian Junta.

The executions occurred after Wagner Forces in cooperation with the Malian Military cleared some towns of Islamist fighters.

Human Rights Watch said:
After surrounding the area, the soldiers patrolled through town, executing several men as they tried to flee, and detaining hundreds of unarmed men from the market and their homes. The detained men included Moura residents; traders from surrounding hamlets, villages, and towns who had come to attend the weekly Sunday market day; and some known Islamist fighters who had hidden their firearms and attempted to blend in with the population, the witnesses said.

The government forces took the detained men to an area east of the town, confiscated their telephones, and divided them into at least three groups. They ordered the detainees to lie down in the sun. The soldiers held them there until around 11 a.m. on March 31. During this time, the soldiers searched the town and, according to several residents, confiscated several firearms. They also allegedly stole jewelry, money, and other items from some households and burned dozens of motorcycles.

Over the four days, the soldiers ordered the detained men in groups of 4, 6, or up to 10, to stand up and walk for between several dozen and several hundred meters. There, the Malian and foreign soldiers summarily executed them. The witnesses said some victims were shot in the head, while other groups of men were sprayed by gunfire. One resident said, “the sound of gunfire rang out in our village from Monday to Thursday.”

Human Rights Watch said:
Two town elders said they had spoken with numerous witnesses to determine the number of dead, and said they believed at least 300 people had been killed. The witnesses interviewed also cited that figure.

Residents from several surrounding towns said that loved ones who had gone to attend the Moura market had not returned, and that they feared they had been executed. A Malian elder from Mopti region said: “I’ve been getting calls from people from a dozen villages saying their men had not returned home after market day. From one village, 45 men were missing.” A resident of Toguèré-Coumbé village said, “Two of my cousins and four other friends did not come home.”

“Yes, the jihadists are there, many of them, and yes there was an exchange of fire and several jihadists died,” a trader from Moura said. “But what kind of war is it when soldiers kill hundreds of unarmed people who just happen to live in a jihadist-controlled zone.”

 

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A month later and still no access for either journalists, the United Nations or other investigators to the alleged site of the Moura Massacre over a month ago by the Malian Army and Wagner Mercenaries, of which reportedly one to two thousand are located in the country.

Mali claims no Russian involvement in the operation and the operation incurred 203 militants killed with fifty one captured and no civilian casualties reported when they seized the village from alleged Islamist militants.

 

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Last month, on August 18th, French troops finally departed Mali after having aided the country there in their ongoing fight against Islamic militants since 2012.

Russian Wagner PMC will now have to fill the gap. Having been in the country in considerable number since December of 2021, Russians Private Military Contractors have had a troubled 2022 while serving in country. They've been accused of perpetrating two massacres, and their forces have suffered some notable setbacks and ambushes as well.

 

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The President of Mali's Chief of Staff and three others were killed by Islamist Rebels in an ambush.


Two days later an Islamist attack took place near a Malian military base in the center of the country which houses Malian troops, as well as Wagner PMC Mercenaries. An estimated ten people were killed, sixty wounded, with twenty homes destroyed, mainly by a car bomb detonation.


That same day, one of the four Mi-35 Attack Helicopters Mali operated crashed into a suburban residential building after returning from an "Anti-Extremist" mission with the two Russian and one Malian crewmembers all killed in the crash. Six civilians on the ground were also wounded.



These Mi-35M Helicopters entered Malian Service just in 2017 and 2021.
 

Sergeant Foley

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Some people have election cycles. Others have coup cycles. Eight years after overthrowing the Mali government back in 2012 over mismanagement in response to the Tuareg Rebellion and Islamist Insurgency, the military has launched another coup to depose an order of government that was established in the wake of their last successful coup. They already captured several senior political leaders including the President and PM and have promised new elections after a short transitional period.
Another foreign policy debacle for the Biden administration with Americans trapped in Sudan.
 

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Tatarigami (whose actually done some impressive analysis of military bits of the ongoing Special Military Operation in Ukraine from the Ukrainian POV) put up a short Twitter thread regarding Russia/Wagner activities in Mali, especially in light of the recent bombing that took place near a Wagner facility.



The most interesting takeaway is that satellite images reveal that while two carbombs launched by the Islamist militants weren't able to damage the Wagner/Malian military facilities, a third car bomb was eliminated by the famous Bayraktar UCAV's of Turkey, of which Mali has received a handful in 2022 with more deliveries planned in 2023.

Unfortunately the Car Bomb struck by the Bayraktar drone in a crowded area and the resulting explosion apparently caused casualties among the civilians heading to mosque that happened to be nearby. The Malian authorities promptly declared this a terrorist incident as well.

What is of more geopolitical interest is that the Bayraktar drone is 'parked' in a Wagner operated airfield thus indicating the strong possibility that Wagner Mercenaries are operating at least one of the Turkish supplied Bayraktar TB2 UCAVs.
 

Husky_Khan

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Some more random developments in Mali.

Thousands in the Malian Capitol City of Bamako have protested, advocating the complete withdrawal of the UN Mission there, MINUSMA, which has been in place since 2013, stating it has failed to protect the population from terrorism. The UN Mission in Mali currently has around 13,000 personnel in country with over 300 of them having been killed in the course of operations.

This comes in the wake of the United Nations investigating Wagner Mercenaries linked with the current military government as being responsible for perpetrating war crimes and other human rights abuses, such as the death of at least 500 civilians in Moura as well as engaging in torture and rape while in their own anti-terrorism campaign.


Iran has offered to supply the country of Mali with training and weapons in their fight to combat 'Islamic terrorists' in their country.

Jerusalem Post said:
Iran's pro-regime Tasnim media reported that "the defense minister of Iran expressed the country's readiness to provide Mali with military equipment and experiences in the fight against terrorism." Ashtiani said Iran is prepared to share equipment, experiences and capabilities in training with Mali.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran will spare no effort to strengthen Mali's defense power against the threats posed by terrorist groups," the Iranian general who is also the defense minister added. Iran also said that Western governments were meddling in Africa and that the presence of the West in those areas was a continuation of the legacy of "colonial" policies.

 

ATP

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Some more random developments in Mali.

Thousands in the Malian Capitol City of Bamako have protested, advocating the complete withdrawal of the UN Mission there, MINUSMA, which has been in place since 2013, stating it has failed to protect the population from terrorism. The UN Mission in Mali currently has around 13,000 personnel in country with over 300 of them having been killed in the course of operations.

This comes in the wake of the United Nations investigating Wagner Mercenaries linked with the current military government as being responsible for perpetrating war crimes and other human rights abuses, such as the death of at least 500 civilians in Moura as well as engaging in torture and rape while in their own anti-terrorism campaign.


Iran has offered to supply the country of Mali with training and weapons in their fight to combat 'Islamic terrorists' in their country.



So,they support Wagner ther,or try to replace him?
 

Pef

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The Islamic Republic of Iran expressed the country's readiness to provide Mali with military equipment and experiences in the fight against terrorism.
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No mention of 'Islamic terrorism' in the Islamic Republic of Iran note. However, they are supporting Hezbollah so they may know a thing or two about terrorism. 🤷‍♂️
 

ATP

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The Islamic Republic of Iran expressed the country's readiness to provide Mali with military equipment and experiences in the fight against terrorism.
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No mention of 'Islamic terrorism' in the Islamic Republic of Iran note. However, they are supporting Hezbollah so they may know a thing or two about terrorism. 🤷‍♂️
Of course,they would fight Islamic terrorists - those who do not agree to work for them.
If you think,that muslims do not kill each other,then you are mistaken !
 

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