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I can't tell if this was meant to imply the power of FO tactical nukes or it was to signify the fault line of the Divide.

If it meant power it would mean that tactical nukes are at least 500 tons of TNT if not higher.
 

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I can't tell if this was meant to imply the power of FO tactical nukes or it was to signify the fault line of the Divide.

If it meant power it would mean that tactical nukes are at least 500 tons of TNT if not higher.
Nukes can cause earthquakes if ground burst due to plates moving.
So most likely the later not the former
 

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I can't tell if this was meant to imply the power of FO tactical nukes or it was to signify the fault line of the Divide.

If it meant power it would mean that tactical nukes are at least 500 tons of TNT if not higher.

Isn't 500 tons of TNT incredibly weak? That's half a kiloton, which is about as low yield as tac nukes get.
 

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Isn't 500 tons of TNT incredibly weak? That's half a kiloton, which is about as low yield as tac nukes get.
Tbh it is for a nuke but it's still 50 MOAB's minimum, it could be that these nukes were meant for tactical strikes.


500 tons of TNT would fuck up a hardened facility with out destroying much beyond it.
 

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That too.
I misread and thought he said 500k not just 500.
Yes 500 tons is actually.
Tbh it is for a nuke but it's still 50 MOAB's minimum, it could be that these nukes were meant for tactical strikes.


500 tons of TNT would fuck up a hardened facility with out destroying much beyond it.
Not really no. Little boy was 15kt...
 

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Tbh it is for a nuke but it's still 50 MOAB's minimum, it could be that these nukes were meant for tactical strikes.


500 tons of TNT would fuck up a hardened facility with out destroying much beyond it.

Well, yes, but it's a tactical nuke. It's supposed to have enough firepower to take out a hardened bunker or the like.

As a rule, I would be suspicious of fallout firepower figures that diverge wildly from the capabilities of the 1950s-60s, because that's what the aesthetic of the setting is consciously trying to emulate. Just because the war happened in 2077, does not mean they had 50 years of additional advancements in weapons technology (quite the opposite, with many cutting edge weapons in the fallout universe being decades old designs for us).

Anything that's well out of step with that is more likely to be a mistake by the creators not understanding the implications of what they did, rather than a hint as to "true power" of fallout's technology.
 

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Tactical nukes are good for the overpressure taking out The people.
 

Scooby Doo

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That too.
I misread and thought he said 500k not just 500.
Yes 500 tons is actually.

Not really no. Little boy was 15kt...
500 Tons is still 50x a MOAB, it's not meant for wide city busting damage but specific targeting.

FO used a lot of tactical weapons.
Well, yes, but it's a tactical nuke. It's supposed to have enough firepower to take out a hardened bunker or the like.

As a rule, I would be suspicious of fallout firepower figures that diverge wildly from the capabilities of the 1950s-60s, because that's what the aesthetic of the setting is consciously trying to emulate. Just because the war happened in 2077, does not mean they had 50 years of additional advancements in weapons technology (quite the opposite, with many cutting edge weapons in the fallout universe being decades old designs for us).

Anything that's well out of step with that is more likely to be a mistake by the creators not understanding the implications of what they did, rather than a hint as to "true power" of fallout's technology.
Tbf FO as a series has diverged the most recent lore has laser weapons replacing fire arms and conventional small arms being used for the National Guard and Police while only high caliber ammunition or heavy weapons and energy weapons were typically used by Pre-War America.

Fallout 3 and onwards diverges on the original aesthetics of FO1 & 2.

Now 76 has Pre-War 40mm Grenade Launcher Machine Guns
 

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500 Tons is still 50x a MOAB, it's not meant for wide city busting damage but specific targeting.

FO used a lot of tactical weapons.

Tbf FO as a series has diverged the most recent lore has laser weapons replacing fire arms and conventional small arms being used for the National Guard and Police while only high caliber ammunition or heavy weapons and energy weapons were typically used by Pre-War America.

Fallout 3 and onwards diverges on the original aesthetics of FO1 & 2.

Now 76 has Pre-War 40mm Grenade Launcher Machine Guns
MOAB is a specific type of bomb though....diffrent from a nuke
 

Scooby Doo

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Yes.
But it is also a air burst.
The nukes in FO are fucking tiny as hell
Ehhh not really Fallout has like ten different nuke designs with different yields.

The Megaton Bomb in the Fallout 3 town for example is confirmed to have a yield of one megaton.
 

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One Megaton isn't that tiny, it's hundreds of times powerful than the bombs that fell on Japan despite being the same size.
I mean the MK 41 is not much bigger then the Fatman is is multiple megatons.
 

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