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[mrttao]

And to further give justice to the complexity, going too far in the "good" direction can also bring bad results - the slavery discussion going too far means Haiti or leftist reparation and "anti racism" discussions of today's leftist campuses, while the movement against executions went so far that not even the worst of traitors and foreign enemies fear anything, they have to be unlucky to get any meaningful punishment at all and act with appropriate boldness as a result.

facepalm.
abolition of slavery is not a slippery slope into "anti" (reversed) racism.
slavery is not even a racist institute. every race and every nation before recent times practiced explicit slavery (explicit as in, they admit and openly call it as such).
even in the usa you had black slave owners, and white slaves.

The notion that all whites were owners and all blacks were slaves is fictitious blood libel used to justify the ongoing genocide of caucasians.

 

[mrttao]

Nope, peasants have very little money in the sense of currency to begin with and spend most of it as soon as they get it, if it steals money from anyone, it's middle and lower upper class who has a lot of capital in currency rather than other assets.

facepalm...
1. you know damn well that by "peasants" I was using tongue in cheek humor to refer to everyone who is not rich rather than literal farmers.

2. literal farmers are middle class.

3. while the poor who live hand to mouth with 0 savings do not get hit by the instant loss of value of their savings (of which they have none).
They are almost immediately hit with lowered salary and higher necessity prices.
Hence I said in "at most a couple of years" the theft is fully spread out and realized.
which, is definitely not "stealing from our children". it is the govt stealing from everyone right now.

Technically even the oligarchs have money taken from them at the moment of printing. But they turn a net profit as they gain more than they have lost.

 

[Marduk]

facepalm...
1. you know damn well that by "peasants" I was using tongue in cheek humor to refer to everyone who is not rich rather than literal farmers.

Again, the "not rich" generally don't have much cash around. You have to be pretty rich to have much of your wealth inflated away.

2. literal farmers are middle class.

Farmers can be any class. They can be middle class, they can be a eastern european dude with a tractor older than him and as many hectares of land as a lumberjack's hand has fingers and may qualify for some welfare, or a bonafide multimillionaire with thousands of hectares of land.

3. while the poor who live hand to mouth with 0 savings do not get hit by the instant loss of value of their savings (of which they have none).
They are almost immediately hit with lowered salary and higher necessity prices.
Hence I said in "at most a couple of years" the theft is fully spread out and realized.
which, is definitely not "stealing from our children". it is the govt stealing from everyone right now.

Low end of the salaries also get hit with increases in those years though.

Technically even the oligarchs have money taken from them at the moment of printing. But they turn a net profit as they gain more than they have lost.

Those with more government related business far absolutely, but those in other areas not at all, depends on what business they are in and what area is the govt splurging on.

 

[mrttao]

Those with more government related business far absolutely, but those in other areas not at all, depends on what business they are in and what area is the govt splurging on.

If you are rich and have no govt contacts then you are not an oligarch.
oligarch, by definition, is part of a group of rulers.
a rich person who earned his money fairly is seen as a threat by the oligarchs

 

[King Arts]

...you are comparing printing money to rape and murder.

This discussion is now a farce.

You know what you are right. That is being too harsh on murderers and rapists.

 

[ATP]

Otherkin are people who genuinely believe their soul is that of an animals, trapped in a human body.

Where is vomit reaction,when i need it ?

 

[mrttao]

...you are comparing printing money to rape and murder.

This discussion is now a farce.

1. printing money is slavery. but obfuscated. it is sophisticated because the slaves live far away from the owner, and do not know the owners name usually, nor their address. and thus cannot revolt.

2. the money printers literally get away with rape and murder. all the time. and the fact they have all that printed money is a big part of their source of power.

3. I did not compare money printing to rape and murder.
I disproved an absurdly stupid argument by applying that exact same argument to rape and murder.

For it to be a comparison / equivocation he would have had to make the argument scale, claiming that money printing is not that bad. and then I would have to disagree and claim that it is just as bad as rape and murder.
But he didn't, and I didn't.
I only attacked a spefic argument of
> everyone is doing it, so it is ok
with the mention of rape and murder and slavery (which, I am telling you now, I AM equating money printing to slavery).

 

[King Arts]

1. printing money is slavery. but obfuscated. it is sophisticated because the slaves live far away from the owner, and do not know the owners name usually, nor their address. and thus cannot revolt.

2. the money printers literally get away with rape and murder. all the time. and the fact they have all that printed money is a big part of their source of power.

3. I did not compare money printing to rape and murder.
I disproved an absurdly stupid argument by applying that exact same argument to rape and murder.

For it to be a comparison / equivocation he would have had to make the argument scale, claiming that money printing is not that bad. and then I would have to disagree and claim that it is just as bad as rape and murder.
But he didn't, and I didn't.
I only attacked a spefic argument of
> everyone is doing it, so it is ok
with the mention of rape and murder and slavery (which, I am telling you now, I AM equating money printing to slavery).

You can argue that it is worse than murder and rape since fucking up the economy will cause more crime and that includes murder and rape either single rape or pimps forcing women into prostitution.

So you could be responsible for thousands of rapes and deaths by single-handedly crashing the economy.

 

[mrttao]

You can argue that it is worse than murder and rape since fucking up the economy will cause more crime and that includes murder and rape either single rape or pimps forcing women into prostitution.

So you could be responsible for thousands of rapes and deaths by single-handedly crashing the economy.

Yes. absolutely so.

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Also NOW in the lines above I have compared printing money to rape and murder.
I didn't compare it before.

But I am comparing it now that it was brought up. and I absolutely agree with King Arts that a rapist and a murderer are vastly less evil than a money printer.
The rapist murderer would, at most, rape-murder a few dozen people.
The politician printing money is the direct cause of millions of rapes and murders.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Does anyone else sometimes skim through 4-5 year old reddit posts to remind themselves that a metric shitload of people out there would happy see you dead over the dumbest of reasons? The best part is because so much shit is archived, you can browse almost any subreddit to find endless posts that would get you banned if you replaced 'antivaxxer' with other words.

 

[DarthOne]

Does anyone else sometimes skim through 4-5 year old reddit posts to remind themselves that a metric shitload of people out there would happy see you dead over the dumbest of reasons? The best part is because so much shit is archived, you can browse almost any subreddit to find endless posts that would get you banned if you replaced 'antivaxxer' with other words.

Poor dumb kids are going to find out the hard way that mom and dad were right to have concerns about the Covid vax. Assuming they haven’t already. Poor kids.

 

[Zachowon]

Depends on the vax.
Covid vax, sure.
Polio? Various other ones vaccinated with as a kid? No.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Depends on the vax.
Covid vax, sure.
Polio? Various other ones vaccinated with as a kid? No.

Polio vaccine is a meme, it was already going the way of the dodo because of sanitation and better practices.

Ironically it kept giving random kids polio instead of preventing it.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Another euphemism dropped, 'McDonalds Whackos'.

 

[DarthOne]

Am I the only one who is reminded of The Mechanical Hound from Fahrenheit 451?

 

[Zachowon]

Polio vaccine is a meme, it was already going the way of the dodo because of sanitation and better practices.

Ironically it kept giving random kids polio instead of preventing it.

Someone gave me a good rundown on what vaxs to give kids.

Whooping cough (look up videos of babies with whooping cough), chickenpox (can help prevent shingles later in life). Both of these are well known, tried and safe. Polio is pretty rare nowadays but that's because of vaccinations. Measles definitely. A case of measles can leave your child permanently brain damaged. (I met a kid once who had been normal up until age 8) Mumps can make your kid sterile. All of these are safe, tested and important. If you have a daughter then Rubella/German measles and HPV Human Papilloma Virus Vax can help avoid birth defects and cervical cancer. Both are also tested and safe. Only vaxes Is be sus about are the Covid ones and only ones I'd be dubious about regarding their usefulness is flu vaccinations.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Someone gave me a good rundown on what vaxs to give kids.

Or we could just stop bringing in sick people from across the globe, so that we don't have to rely on questionable vaccines. ;V

 

[Zachowon]

Or we could just stop bringing in sick people from across the globe, so that we don't have to rely on questionable vaccines. ;V

None of the ones mentioned are questionable and are given even before major immigration issues

 

[Bacle]

$60.8 BILLION Ukraine, $26 BILLION Israel aid package PASSES at U.S. House of Representatives

Attempting to tie UA and Israel aid to border funding was a stupid move and complete self-own by the GOP.

They are all issues that should be debated and passed on their own merits, not as leverage against each other.

So all you haters who wanted to cut UA off and force them to surrender, while using aid to UA for a farcical attempt to strong arm the Dems about the border, can go get fucked.

 

[Zachowon]

Or we could just stop bringing in sick people from across the globe, so that we don't have to rely on questionable vaccines. ;V

Most of the ones mentioned have nothing to do with immigrants.
Chicken pox for example has been in the US alone for...a few decades if not longer?
I would say most of the ones mentioned have been in the US for longer then our horrible immigrants policies