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They were NOWHERE as powerful as the cartels in Mexico.
They own the government basically.
All it takes would be a US backed Coup and a firm destruction of cartel leadership
You get another Vietnam situation in that case and you bordered it this time.
 
The US has no obligation to Mexico. As long as the Cartels can be destroyed in US territory and taught never to intrude into it, Mexico can deal with it's own problems.
 


It may be time to start taking the organ donor star off your driver licenses, unless you want certain medical professionals to prefer to harvest your organs, rather than render life saving treatment, even with visible signs of cognition.

I've been hearing from people who deal with some hospitals that if you have 'low survival odds', they go straight to organ harvesting instead of life saving treatment, and count on the person being dead/harvested before anyone can say otherwise, and that an organ donor sticker is as good as a 'DO NOT RESUSCITATE' bracelet or directive if the medical group involved feels the organs are worth more than saving the patient.
 
It may be time to start taking the organ donor star off your driver licenses, unless you want certain medical professionals to prefer to harvest your organs, rather than render life saving treatment, even with visible signs of cognition.
Not all doctors are like that.
 


It may be time to start taking the organ donor star off your driver licenses, unless you want certain medical professionals to prefer to harvest your organs, rather than render life saving treatment, even with visible signs of cognition.

I've been hearing from people who deal with some hospitals that if you have 'low survival odds', they go straight to organ harvesting instead of life saving treatment, and count on the person being dead/harvested before anyone can say otherwise, and that an organ donor sticker is as good as a 'DO NOT RESUSCITATE' bracelet or directive if the medical group involved feels the organs are worth more than saving the patient.

Already have done that

Not all doctors are like that.
Not taking the risk that I might get one
 
Not taking the risk that I might get one
It's pretty low risk. At the point where you're avoiding donating your organs because you read about this one case where doctors nearly killed a guy (but stopped once they saw he was alive) to harvest his organs, you might as well stop driving because of automobile accident rates or stop drinking/smoking/eating meat because it could decrease your lifespan.
 
It's pretty low risk. At the point where you're avoiding donating your organs because you read about this one case where doctors nearly killed a guy (but stopped once they saw he was alive) to harvest his organs, you might as well stop driving because of automobile accident rates or stop drinking/smoking/eating meat because it could decrease your lifespan.
I stopped way before this lol
 
My position is that nobody should or can be forced (or shamed) into donating their organs, no matter how many lives it theoretically saves.

But if that's what they want, then I think it's rather noble of them.
 
They were NOWHERE as powerful as the cartels in Mexico.
They own the government basically.
All it takes would be a US backed Coup and a firm destruction of cartel leadership
What makes you think that El Salvador was not worse than Mexico?

No, they were fragmented and disorganized. That's why they lost so quickly.
Isn’t this self defeating? You say it only works because they were weak and the fact that it worked shows they were weak. And that it won’t work in Mexico because they are still in power there.
 
Because El Salvador doesn't have cartels with 5p caliber weaponry and havnt had open firefights with the military and won
Isn’t that because the tactics that the Mexicans are doing? They are doing patrols and police work instead of mass arrests or executions.
 
Isn’t that because the tactics that the Mexicans are doing? They are doing patrols and police work instead of mass arrests or executions.
Yeah, a mass arrest will totally work on cartels when they open up on your vehicles with a 50.....
Doing either of those don't really work, when an entire sicario off shoot (I think sicario off shoot) were former Mexican SF...
 
If Mexico can't control the cartels, I am okay with the US cracking down.
Won't work, the public is too casualty averse and the President will be attacked as either an evil western imperialist (if he's Republican) or an evil neoliberal globalist (if he's a Democrat).

It's hard enough to just get both sides to collaborate on cracking down on domestic crime, let alone police actions on other states.
 
As anti war as I am, I'm actually with Zach on being pro war on this one.

If Mexico can't control the cartels, I am okay with the US cracking down.

They're, in my opinion, a far bigger threat than anybody over in Asia and Europe.
We sboukd actively engage and destroy them
Won't work, the public is too casualty averse and the President will be attacked as either an evil western imperialist (if he's Republican) or an evil neoliberal globalist (if he's a Democrat).

It's hard enough to just get both sides to collaborate on cracking down on domestic crime, let alone police actions on other states.
It would cit down on domestic crime by like, at least 25%
 
t would cit down on domestic crime by like, at least 25%
Made up figures asides, it doesn't matter. Nobody will sign off on it. "Proportional Response" is about as far as the US government will go, even if the generals beg on their knees to be allowed to carpet bomb all Cartel territory.
 
Made up figures asides, it doesn't matter. Nobody will sign off on it. "Proportional Response" is about as far as the US government will go, even if the generals beg on their knees to be allowed to carpet bomb all Cartel territory.
All it takes is a president going "Mexico, either you deal with the cartels or I will."
The president can activate troops for iirc 90 days without congress.
So, we could literally go "you have this time zone, after that I will have 9p days to start ir or end it, or both."
 

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