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[SoliFortissimi]

Yeah because the previous administrations that imposed them are fucking toothless morons and there's no actual fucking consequences for violating the so-called sanctions that are currently in place.

They're literally worth less than the paper I wipe my ass with, when I say sanctions I mean you should build military bases on their trade routes and place a naval blockade around their ports. Sanctions like laws need some force to actually enforce them.

Let them grow their own food and somehow turn their rifles into plows if they want to be belligerent fucktards.

Sure, go ahead and pay for it yourself.

 

[Rorschach]

Sure, go ahead and pay for it yourself.

Fuck off Soli I pay taxes, thay's the definition of paying for it and I should have a fucking say, that's kind of the entire point of the revolutionary war we fought.

I'd just prefer we use tried and tested strategies rather than doing stupid shit like leaving an armory behind us in Afghanistan. A blockade is effective and above all it's simple enough for even the dumbest general to understand.

Our entire war machine went straight into the toilet as soon as the generals got it into their heads that they were smart enough to understand and employ strategy.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

No, I would just be wanting laws on the books around immigration enforced as they are written.

Per standing US law (when not ignored for Sanctuary City/State policies) to be eligible for birthright citizenship, you must have at least one parent who is a US citizen. Nothing about race, just is one parent a US citizen at the time of the child's birth; if yes, eligible for birthright citizenship; if no, child is not eligible for US birthright citizenship.

A lot of the Left and corpo's just want the US public to ignore/forget that part of immigration law, and keep it out of the convo around illegal vs legal immigration.

No. The standing federal law is 8 U.S. Code § 1401, which makes no parental citizenship requirement.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[King Arts]

Nah, this is you just once again attempting a pathetic gatcha against me, because you have an obsession with trying to gatcha me and trying to call/label me a racist or whatever, any time you think you can find a way to do so.

In fact, most of the posts you've ever made on this site were pathetic gatcha attempts of one sort or another.

Guessing you do it to get screenshots to take back to SB or SV or FiC to get likes and what have you from your leftist butt buddies.

Frankly it's kinda hilarious how much you resort to baseless and inaccurate insults against me and anyone else who calls you out and treats you like the pathetic little troll you are.

So keep it coming, you're always good for a laugh.

You made a claim I showed you how you are wrong. Do you think this thread is just for you to shit post? If you advocate for something and someone shows you why you are wrong based on the law and history it's not a gotcha.

Also I'm more conservative than you, it's funny you talk about leftist butt buddies didden't you suck off Pete Buttiggeg on spacebattles and say any Church that does not perform gay marriage should lose it's rights or get closed down or something?

> Oh no!
> Without constant replacement migration (genocide), the existing disparate people of america will crossbreed
> from such miscegination a new american race will come to exist in 1000 years.
> We must engage in constant nonstop replacement migration genocide to strangle this future race in the crib.

I can't believe you are seriously pushing such a dumbfuck argument.

Even if you were right about a new race forming, and 1000 years from now a new race will be born out of the american people...
why exactly is it such a bad thing that an american "race" might maybe possibly form far off in the future?

Oh god you are just posting something really dumb now.
No it doesen't take 1000 years to make a new people you only need 3 generations.

Also I'm not saying it's a bad thing, if you want that it's fine as long as you are honest about it. You just have to say that this will change America and what it means to be American in an entirely new way. I'll show you.

Nations with Jus sanguine race based nations they will remain the same no matter their government (within reason) So Germany for instance if someone in Germany rose up and overthrew the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany - Wikipedia

and fought off everyone that tried to stop it domestically and foreign nations andmade it so that Germany is no longer a democracy but made themselves absolute monarch it would still be Germany, the same applies if it was Nazi ideology it would still be German, the same if they made a Catholic monastic military dictatorship like the Teutonic Order in Prussia. They were still German, it would not be "ungermanic" to advocate or try for that. Because as long as the heritage the bloodline of the people continues it will still be German.


For America as it is now this is not the case. If someone launched a war against the US government and wiped their ass with the constitution and made themselves a monarch that new nation would not be America. That person IS acting "unamerican"

This is because America is an ideological nation people who are accepted as citizens and believe in the values of the nation are Americans.

I mean @Zachowon @Spartan303 @Abhorsen yall are soldiers and swore to defend the constitution right? I have a question/hypotetical let's say you have been part of a military project to make super soldiers and you get frozen but you wake up and find that 100 years have passed and Conus is split between 2 governments One side is made up of majority biological descendents of historical American they have been here for hundreds of years. But they don't follow the Constitution in fact they are an absolute monarchy with nobility and titles and all that.

The other is made up of people who immigrated much more recently maybe the majority language is not even English but Spanish or Chinese. However they are actually a Republic and do still follow the Constitution as it is now in 2024. I mean they haven't added any amendments.

Now my question is which of these two groups is the REAL America that you are oath bound to defend and fight for? Does it matter that the first group their ancestors came on the fucking May flower if they are monarchists?

So am I a liberal or a neocon?

And, no, Russia is waging an Offensive war, that is they attacked first.

Israel waged Defensive wars, that is they were attacked.

If you can not see the difference between these two states, you are an idiot.

I never said you were liberal did I?

Also no you can argue that Russia is taking back it's territory and preventing both mistreatment of local Russians, and trying to prevent Western encroachment. Would you be ok with South American nations allying with China?

Also Israel did not wage defensive wars 48 they were foreigners not native to the middle east and took land from locals. Also the 1967 war Israel attacked first. You are either a lying hypocrite or a brainwashed fool.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Fuck off Soli I pay taxes, thay's the definition of paying for it and I should have a fucking say, that's kind of the entire point of the revolutionary war we fought.

And what about other taxpayers? Because most of them are sick of Middle Eastern interventions, no matter how many times chicken hawks assure them it'll be different this time.

 

[Rorschach]

And what about other taxpayers? Because most of them are sick of Middle Eastern interventions, no matter how many times chicken hawks assure them it'll be different this time.

We're sick of them because they're an ineffective waste of time and resources, because the generals and politicians prosecuting these interventions are incompetent morons.

So what you need are simple strategies and goals, like for example blockading all their trade. Which is a simple and devastating strategy that basically always works.

We could even come up with catchy name for it like the KISS doctrine.

 

[TheRejectionist]

I mean are you going to stab someone over this?

You know as a Latino, it is gruesomely ironic that lots of "us" wanted our country to "become like the US", which meant "safety, prosperity and tranquillity" and now the US seems to be going in the path of other countries of the continent.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

So what you need are simple strategies and goals, like for example blockading all their trade

....this is why Afghanistan and Iraq were lost. You people keep thinking that goals like that are remotely close to simple. Not to mention you didn't even remotely acknowledge how expensive and pointless it is.

For pity's sake, leave the taxpayer alone. He doesn't deserve to suffer for your war fetish.

 

[King Arts]

We're sick of them because they're an ineffective waste of time and resources, because the generals and politicians prosecuting these interventions are incompetent morons.

So what you need are simple strategies and goals, like for example blockading all their trade. Which is a simple and devastating strategy that basically always works.

We could even come up with catchy name for it like the KISS doctrine.

I support taking down these Islamists but this is just stupid and you aren't keeping it simple stupid.

First off sanctions never do anything but hurt people who aren't even the ones we are trying to hurt. What we should do is have a temporary alliance with Russia and install Assad back into power with the promise of good treatment towards Christians. Stop being a dumb neocon who wants "muh democracy" accept dictators as long as they don't attack us, and are willing to treat Christian minorities fairly. Otherwise let them do all the genocide massacres torture violation they need to keep their subjects fearful so that order is maintained.

 

[Rorschach]

....this is why Afghanistan and Iraq were lost. You people keep thinking that goals like that are remotely close to simple. Not to mention you didn't even remotely acknowledge how expensive and pointless it is.

For pity's sake, leave the taxpayer alone. He doesn't deserve to suffer for your war fetish.

Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron, we lost Iraq and Afghanistan because the goals weren't simple, if you don't have a win condition you obviously aren't going to win.

Do you even know what we were trying to achieve in Iraq/Afghanistan?

I support taking down these Islamists but this is just stupid and you aren't keeping it simple stupid.

First off sanctions never do anything but hurt people who aren't even the ones we are trying to hurt. What we should do is have a temporary alliance with Russia and install Assad back into power with the promise of good treatment towards Christians. Stop being a dumb neocon who wants "muh democracy" accept dictators as long as they don't attack us, and are willing to treat Christian minorities fairly. Otherwise let them do all the genocide massacres torture violation they need to keep their subjects fearful so that order is maintained.

Sanctions don't do anything because they're just worthless words written on worthless paper. Can you even explain why a blockade wouldn't work?

Do Islamists not need to eat? Do they not use money?

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Why do you care so much about a few random churches anyway?

 

[King Arts]

Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron, we lost Iraq and Afghanistan because the goals weren't simple, if you don't have a win condition you obviously aren't going to win.

Do you even know what we were trying to achieve in Iraq/Afghanistan?

Sanctions don't do anything because they're just worthless words written on worthless paper. Can you even explain why a blockade wouldn't work?

Do Islamists not need to eat? Do they not use money?

Sure there are 2 main reasons the first is practical sieges are possible but if you are blocking something bigger than a city or fort it becomes impractical to block people from entering or leaving with food especially if it’s not an island. And even then inside a country there is lots of food and your enemy will be the last to feel hunger pains. At first they’ll just take food from Christians and others. Then from non jihadi Muslims, will be made to be martyred to help the jihadis.
The second reason is political. Even if you did not have to deal with liberals crying about war crimes Americans are not a patient people they want action now. An example is ww2 if nukes couldn’t be used for some reason. They would have invaded japan instead of just blockade it. Killing millions of Americans soldiers, a pretty stupid plan starvation would be much more effective.

 

[Rorschach]

Sure there are 2 main reasons the first is practical sieges are possible but if you are blocking something bigger than a city or fort it becomes impractical to block people from entering or leaving with food especially if it’s not an island. And even then inside a country there is lots of food and your enemy will be the last to feel hunger pains. At first they’ll just take food from Christians and others. Then from non jihadi Muslims, will be made to be martyred to help the jihadis.

Yeah except the point isn't to block all food from entering the country, it's to make the cost of food ruinously expensive.

The second reason is political. Even if you did not have to deal with liberals crying about war crimes Americans are not a patient people they want action now. An example is ww2 if nukes couldn’t be used for some reason. They would have invaded japan instead of just blockade it. Killing millions of Americans soldiers, a pretty stupid plan starvation would be much more effective.

So you admit it would work, and that the only reason we don't do it is because our generals are incompetent morons...

 

[King Arts]

Yeah except the point isn't to block all food from entering the country, it's to make the cost of food ruinously expensive.

But our enemy are the guys who are rich. If you are in charge of a government you are rich. You can ensure you and your supporters get priority for food. The whole reason we want to fuck them up is because they are hurting a group we have kinship towards. Christians. Right now they are the poorest so the actions you advocate would hurt them most.

So you admit it would work, and that the only reason we don't do it is because our generals are incompetent morons...

Again I did say islands are easier. It’s theoretically possible but in no way guaranteed.

 

[Rorschach]

But our enemy are the guys who are rich. If you are in charge of a government you are rich. You can ensure you and your supporters get priority for food. The whole reason we want to fuck them up is because they are hurting a group we have kinship towards. Christians. Right now they are the poorest so the actions you advocate would hurt them most.

Yeah good luck 'being rich' if you can't spend any of that money. Or when that money is backed by oil you can't export.

Maybe they can try to eat the oil if they're so desperate.

And as for the Christians living on those lands, they can just fucking leave with our support. It's not exactly outside of christian tradition to leave when we're being opressed by a government.

Have you ever heard of a guy called Moses, or the Apostles?

Again I did say islands are easier. It’s theoretically possible but in no way guaranteed.

It absolutely is guaranteed, who the fuck is going to contest a U.S blockade over Syria? Assad is gone and with him the Russians, and the Syrian rebels don't have the manpower or the firepower without our support.

 

[Abhorsen]

I mean @Zachowon @Spartan303 @Abhorsen yall are soldiers and swore to defend the constitution right?

I'm not a soldier, never have been. Never claimed to be one either.

 

[King Arts]

I'm not a soldier, never have been. Never claimed to be one either.

Ahh sorry I don’t know why I thought you were one.

 

[mrttao]

Oh god you are just posting something really dumb now.
No it doesen't take 1000 years to make a new people you only need 3 generations.

kek. the irony.

no you dummy. 3 generations frrom now. the USA is still going to have caucasians, blacks, chinese, jews, indians (america), indians (india), japanese, arab, mexicans, and so on.

They are not going to all become a singular "american race" in 3 generations without mass replacement genocide migration.

It takes much much longer than 3 generations of isolation for disparate groups to fully meld together into something unique.

Also I'm not saying it's a bad thing

Bullshit. this was literally your entire argument.

You argued that everyone is against mass migration genocide is an evil racist and that limiting immigration to very small amount will effectively create an american race

oh wait, it gets fucking dumber

People live in an area they adapt to it and they diverge from where they came from.

no, just fucking no. you are not going to evolve distinct racial characteristics in 3 fucking generations.

 

[mrttao]

You know as a Latino, it is gruesomely ironic that lots of "us" wanted our country to "become like the US", which meant "safety, prosperity and tranquillity" and now the US seems to be going in the path of other countries of the continent.

Import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world

 

[Vyor]

I never said you were liberal did I?

Also no you can argue that Russia is taking back it's territory and preventing both mistreatment of local Russians, and trying to prevent Western encroachment. Would you be ok with South American nations allying with China?

You would also be doing what is commonly called "lying"

Also Israel did not wage defensive wars 48 they were foreigners not native to the middle east and took land from locals. Also the 1967 war Israel attacked first. You are either a lying hypocrite or a brainwashed fool.

Wow, you really don't know history at all. Impressive.

Well, it would be if you were anything more than a 2 bit troll.