Skitzyfrenic
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Thank you for another solid post saving me the trouble, Skitzy.
You're welcome.
Sometimes, I try.
Thank you for another solid post saving me the trouble, Skitzy.
I am pro-capitalism, fiercely against socialism, pro-meritocracy, a nationalist, pro-military, Pro-Israel, believe welfare states are dangerous, moderately anti-environmentalism, pro gun rights, firmly believe religion is a force for morality as long as it's kept distant from politics, despise revolutionary ideologies, and a supporter of the Constitution and the order of government. I also hate Grievance Politics and Marxist discourse. Some others too that I can't think of rn.
By all means, refute it. This is literally the only study that dealt with the topic that I could find.
Proof?
That feminists think they are, which I fancy should have been obvious.
Then you are not a nationalist by your own standards. Not to mention, Israel is a pretty egregious example of a welfare state, anti-gun and many more things you claim to be against.Pro-Israel
Except the Google part (in Europe now at least) the rest seems solid.I, uh, I already did this. In that post with all the links? I went and found as many serious governmental and scientific sources as I could. To include a scientific paper which uses happiness data from a survey that has been conducted since the 1970s along with every census in the United States.
A very strong source, I would say.
My dude, LordsFire even brought that up and you completely ignored it.
Um.
This is very much a google it yourself because people in your position kinda need to see it to believe it, and it all basically repeats ad naseum with a slant that usually comes across as very entitled and men are the fault.
There is near literal deluge of articles from women centric media about this subject. You could probably search female loneliness epidemic.
Women in the 30s+ are fucking losing it, they can't find a man, they feel lonely. Where have all the good men gone?! Which sounds suspiciously like incel rhetoric.
They self report that they did all the things feminism told them to do. Career, focus on themselves, enjoy their twenties. They can't get good men. Good men that they deserve.
The number of tiktoks of late twenties+ women having meltdowns realizing that they are increasingly likely to die cold and alone is on the rise.
This is all pretty public, and not reported on in a constructive way.
My conclusion from this explosion of public self-reporting, and magazine interviews on the subject is that career women are pretty fucking miserable and they self-identify that it's their lack of relationship.
The closest I came to a real source (search term used was what group of women is the unhappiest) was this from Psychology Today and 2011. But it's supporting documentation is an expired link. Several other articles use seem to use the same data.
To cover it briefly, Men (aged 39) who are married with a child and making $150-200k a year with a stay at home wife are the happiest.
The unhappiest are unmarried, childless professional Women (aged 42) making less than $100k a year.
Even the Guardian, using an official ONS (UK gov't afaik) survey for data that is also 404 not found, reports that people, in general, are least happy from 40-59.
It seems that men vs women happiness, in general, is a pretty fraught search, with wildly different conclusions everywhere. One said young women are happier, another said young men are. One said women were happier on average until late 40s, and another said women became less happy in their mid 30s. One report was global, and another was for some asshole in the middle of nowhere. And I couldn't find an actual paper in the amount of time I was willing to invest.
However, as we've got at least one good source on married people being happier than unmarried people (see my earlier post with all the links), and the stuff from this post, we can use our own brains to come to the conclusion that unmarried women in their 40s are pretty fucking miserable.
Aydin Paladin has an excellent video on how happy empowered women are actually miserable, complete with scientific papers.
While stumbling about, I will anecdotally share (because I'm like six searches past and I don't want to go back) that a lot of articles did mention that happier people tend to get married in the first place.
I mean, that's like saying whistleblowing about Texas Instruments something or other would get you killed just because they make Javelin missiles?Even if that’s the case, that doesn’t mean that military material wouldn’t have also been affected by those issues. Or that there wouldn’t be concern over the possibility and investigation into it. Also, it’s still Boeing that’s being affected.
I posted a study with statistics, which is more than everyone else did. That you dismiss it simply because it validates leftist sources is not my business.Why is this your constant refrain? Let's see a little more effort posting from you backing up why you think feminism is such a force for good
Literally your own link says that women of that age group are happier than the men.Even the Guardian, using an official ONS (UK gov't afaik) survey for data that is also 404 not found, reports that people, in general, are least happy from 40-59.
And the entire article he posted to show that professional unmarried women are less happy is basically just stats about how much harder professional women have it compared to professional men. Which he also skipped because he knew that nobody except me is going to be reading it.However, when it comes to severe teen dating violence — including sexual and physical assault — girls were disproportionately the victims
Women's suffrage? ERA? Persecution of sexual exploitation of women? Rise of women in education? The persecution of domestic abusers?Let's see a little more effort posting from you backing up why you think feminism is such a force for good
Interesting, where are your links? You posted exactly one article from a well known leftist site. How about some studies? Shit I'd take some books over vague historical talking points like women's suffrage.I posted a study with statistics, which is more than everyone else did. That you dismiss it simply because it validates leftist sources is not my business.
Literally your own link says that women of that age group are happier than the men.
As for the rest of them, they have nothing to do with anything. It's just the recitation of facts nobody disputes like men also being occasional victims of abuse, albeit at much lower rates than women. Blaming that on feminism is certainly a take, of course, but not a good one.
Actually, some choice quotes from his links to show how I wasn't apparently supposed to read them to see if he is lying:
And the entire article he posted to show that professional unmarried women are less happy is basically just stats about how much harder professional women have it compared to professional men. Which he also skipped because he knew that nobody except me is going to be reading it.
Is this the discourse I'm going to get? Seriously? Links that disprove the point you're trying to make with them, cherry picking from articles that say the opposite of what you're trying to say, and off the wall rants about how
Women's suffrage? ERA? Persecution of sexual exploitation of women? Rise of women in education? The persecution of domestic abusers?
I posted one article because it was the ONLY study that went into the topic. Its natural that only a leftist site would publish it, because conservative papers are anti-feminist and fanatics on both sides only accept theories that agree with their agendas.where are your links? You posted exactly one article from a well known leftist site. How about some studies?
There we are in agreement. Affirmative Action is and always will be a disaster.The rise of women in education has led to an unprecedented amount of deliberate anti-boy methods in education
I don't know, does Boeing have someone working for them who has it in them to assassinate a whistle blower? Or does it go deeper?
You have been given a whole slew of links supporting the position that modern feminism is terrible.I posted one article because it was the ONLY study that went into the topic. Its natural that only a leftist site would publish it, because conservative papers are anti-feminist and fanatics on both sides only accept theories that agree with their agendas.
There we are in agreement. Affirmative Action is and always will be a disaster.
Literally your own link says that women of that age group are happier than the men.
As for the rest of them, they have nothing to do with anything.
And the entire article he posted to show that professional unmarried women are less happy is basically just stats about how much harder professional women have it compared to professional men. Which he also skipped because he knew that nobody except me is going to be reading it.
Then you are not a nationalist by your own standards. Not to mention, Israel is a pretty egregious example of a welfare state, anti-gun and many more things you claim to be against.
Three in this one. One is a YT video and thus worthless. I addressed the other two. I have even agreed with some points you brought up, so I'm hardly dismissing every argument offhandedly.You have been given a whole slew of links supporting the position that modern feminism is terrible
Yeah, and this post has ten.Three in this one. One is a YT video and thus worthless. I addressed the other two. I have even agreed with some points you brought up, so I'm hardly dismissing every argument offhandedly.
I'm hardly declaring that feminism cannot possibly have any bad consequences. As it's a movement explicitly meant to uphold women's interests, it's natural that they could occasionally come at the expense of men. Sometimes it's legitimate (suffrage, protection from sexual exploitation and domestic abuse, and the Equal Rights Act), and sometimes it's not (Affirmative Action).
Three in this one. One is a YT video and thus worthless. I addressed the other two. I have even agreed with some points you brought up, so I'm hardly dismissing every argument offhandedly.