EU France is on fire. Again.

WolfBear

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Actually it's the 1st and 14th Amendments. There are a lot of Salafists in the US. They despise terrorism, and their way is build up culture, have lots of children, and lead by example.

There is no active Government interference in worship like in France and people's reaction to Niqabis is meh.

You will never see US Police assaulting women in the streets or beaches over their attire and denying girls public services over their dress like France.

In short, French hypocrisy is driving the problem. The French voted for this as well, so you French made your bed. Now lie in it. Or you know, stop being hypocritical assholes easily manipulated to vote for neoliberal politicians who sell you out after swearing in.

Are US Salafis well-educated or poorly educated on average?
 

Chiron

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Are US Salafis well-educated or poorly educated on average?

All the ones I associate with have at least a bachelor's degree or professional certification because the Quran calls upon us to be educated.

It means nothing. All of Al-Qaeda's fighters have college educations and they prefer their fighters to be educated, dumbshits die faster.

The current leader of AQ, is a fully licensed surgeon by the way.

Education is not the reason for the difference between French and US Muslim populations. Public policy or lack of is. US policy is benign neglect unless they need a false flag to spin the war drums then simmer it all down and use another ethnic group to play the roundtable. France's policy is active antagonism to keep the masses fooled and manipulated because the last group they used, the Jews, were no longer passe to be used after the Germans did the whole Holocaust.

Same goes for the rest of Europe unless it's people wake up, realize they are being played and go after their real enemy.
 

WolfBear

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All the ones I associate with have at least a bachelor's degree or professional certification because the Quran calls upon us to be educated.

It means nothing. All of Al-Qaeda's fighters have college educations and they prefer their fighters to be educated, dumbshits die faster.

The current leader of AQ, is a fully licensed surgeon by the way.

Education is not the reason for the difference between French and US Muslim populations. Public policy or lack of is. US policy is benign neglect unless they need a false flag to spin the war drums then simmer it all down and use another ethnic group to play the roundtable. France's policy is active antagonism to keep the masses fooled and manipulated because the last group they used, the Jews, were no longer passe to be used after the Germans did the whole Holocaust.

Same goes for the rest of Europe unless it's people wake up, realize they are being played and go after their real enemy.

You yourself are Muslim?
 

Arlos

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Immigration wise, religious tolerance wise.
This whole closing Mosques thing?
Well, I think there’s too much immigration but that‘s nothing new, a lot of it is illegal anyways and with ONG people with bleeding heart who have daddy in high place that’s probably not going away anytime soon.
Definitely not the smartest people around tough.
France is officially laïc, but has been veering more and more into state atheism lately, which isn’t that strange since many of the new voters have grown up hearing about the war on terror, which they interpreted as Religion = Bad for some reason, lumping all religion into it…
Closing Mosques should have been done a loooooong time ago, they were literally preaching for a Jihad in those place, but successive government have been carrying water for Muslim really hard for years, it’s only now when they see there is a very real risk of getting booted out of the seat of powers and replaced by either a Nationalist party or an even further right party that they decided to do something about it, it also happen to be just before the presidential election, lol.
Most French have no good feeling about Muslim in general nowadays, tough I don’t really expect American to understand why; our circumstances are somewhat different, Muslims population in the US is about 1,1%, while in France it’s nearing 10%
 

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Well, I think there’s too much immigration but that‘s nothing new, a lot of it is illegal anyways and with ONG people with bleeding heart who have daddy in high place that’s probably not going away anytime soon.
Definitely not the smartest people around tough.
France is officially laïc, but has been veering more and more into state atheism lately, which isn’t that strange since many of the new voters have grown up hearing about the war on terror, which they interpreted as Religion = Bad for some reason, lumping all religion into it…
Closing Mosques should have been done a loooooong time ago, they were literally preaching for a Jihad in those place, but successive government have been carrying water for Muslim really hard for years, it’s only now when they see there is a very real risk of getting booted out of the seat of powers and replaced by either a Nationalist party or an even further right party that they decided to do something about it, it also happen to be just before the presidential election, lol.
Most French have no good feeling about Muslim in general nowadays, tough I don’t really expect American to understand why; our circumstances are somewhat different, Muslims population in the US is about 1,1%, while in France it’s nearing 10%
Well I hope your country contuines on this good trend.
Is Macron trying to get the people to like him again?
Do you think he will be beaten?
 

Marduk

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So, it's only Israel being harsher on punishment that is deterring them?
Not only harsher, but also more likely to pursue the matter in order to inflict a punishment at all.
Its the same story all over the world - when for whatever more or less silly reason certain low to mid level, usually property crimes, are effectively tolerated by the local government, the more low class, bored and disaffected young men of the area will notice, and do these crimes on a large scale with a sense of impunity backed by facts. And they will keep doing it until that sense of impunity is broken by contradictory facts.
 

WolfBear

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Not only harsher, but also more likely to pursue the matter in order to inflict a punishment at all.
Its the same story all over the world - when for whatever more or less silly reason certain low to mid level, usually property crimes, are effectively tolerated by the local government, the more low class, bored and disaffected young men of the area will notice, and do these crimes on a large scale with a sense of impunity backed by facts. And they will keep doing it until that sense of impunity is broken by contradictory facts.

That makes sense. It also explains why the current Woke war on policing and law-and-order in the US (in the name of "racial equity") is very likely to fail. Criminals tend to notice a sap when they see one, especially sufficiently smart criminals.

The Left really does have a soft spot for criminals who are people of color, unfortunately. :(
 

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I think it is more that Israeli Arabs are more invested in their country than the Muslims in France. Israel actually treats the Israeli Muslims/Arabs extremely well, with full voting rights and such, and despite what the BDS movement likes to claim they are considered fully citizens of the country. France? Not so much, the discrimination against them is endemic and they have zero investment in the country, absolutely no reason to care about their neighbors whatsoever. So, if they're going to get shit on if they stay at home and be nice little helots anyways, why not go out and try and force some respect? What's the worst that can happen, they get treated like they already are getting treated?
 

WolfBear

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I think it is more that Israeli Arabs are more invested in their country than the Muslims in France. Israel actually treats the Israeli Muslims/Arabs extremely well, with full voting rights and such, and despite what the BDS movement likes to claim they are considered fully citizens of the country. France? Not so much, the discrimination against them is endemic and they have zero investment in the country, absolutely no reason to care about their neighbors whatsoever. So, if they're going to get shit on if they stay at home and be nice little helots anyways, why not go out and try and force some respect? What's the worst that can happen, they get treated like they already are getting treated?

Oh, certainly, I think that France should treat its own Arabs and Muslims similar to how Israel treats its own Arabs and Muslims. Possibly even better than that. However, what France will not stop doing is supporting things such as Charlie Hebdo. Free speech, free expression, and satire are absolutely vital to a free society.
 

LordSunhawk

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Oh, certainly, I think that France should treat its own Arabs and Muslims similar to how Israel treats its own Arabs and Muslims. Possibly even better than that. However, what France will not stop doing is supporting things such as Charlie Hebdo. Free speech, free expression, and satire are absolutely vital to a free society.
There's a difference there. In Israel, a Charlie Hebdo would be fine, and the Israeli Arabs are quite capable of handling satire and such. It's because they are part of a healthy society and are included within that culture as part of the culture, not an excluded outsider.
 

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