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TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Youth crime decree approved


And the hot topic of ANSA of course reflects it :


If you read it left to right, the importance of Ukraine, even though ANSA IS the STATE AGENCY (hence officially sanctioned by the Italian current) is 4th :

 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist


I welcome that.

Though it might hurt harder us than them because there's tons of Chinese investment in Italy (for better and for worse) and many Chinese immigrants here in Italy. I am in favor of de-dollarizing but not so much of changing the dollar for yuans.
Meloni's seems to not be submissive as previous PMs to US politics but she still has to play ball with Washington if she want to keep what little she has in say of internal politics (that's why I say often that we got a Polish deal). Meloni might get more independent-minded if either France goes with La Pen and/or Germany goes full AfD.
In turn, according to this video, Italy's current government is moving closer to Burkina Faso with Saudi Arabia, both of which seem to have moved closer to China and Russia in the last period.




That's my take at least @Bacle

Also, this recently happened :



The Ustica massacre now is kinda of a hot topic as well.
 
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Buba

A total creep
Interesting video.
I spied at some point a red T-shirt with the Albanian eagle :)
Sicily, Apulia, Calabria - fits with what I read that it were the poorest of the poor who went to USA. The cheapest tickets were for there. The richer people from Veneto or Lombarda went to Argentina or Brazil. Hence in South America Italians are "the tall blond peple who eat polenta".
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
SOME LEFTIST or whatever is calling him assassino ("assassin" or "murderer")





This is what pisses me off, a lot of these people come from predictably shithole countries.

Guess what a country is made up of? It's people. If one is shit, the other usually is as well.

All of the people? Certainly not, but to say that every economic invader and illegal immigrant is the cream of the crop, the best of the best, the most moral and respectable? Well that only speaks leagues about the rest of them then.

Imagine bringing in millions of 1950's Soviets, and expecting your nation to not at all get sudden and violent red uprisings lmao.
"But they said they were nice!" newsflash, reality and propaganda rarely match!

Import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world

You guys are missing a couple of obvious things from this happening : this happened when Meloni was outside of Italy and when she came to "assess" the situation she came with Ursula Von Der Leyen! Salvini did the same despite he is an ally of Meloni and came with Marine la Pen, so it is like a very twisted sense of bullshitery.
Of course, the voter base of the current government ain't reacting to kindly to her (at the moment) not keeping one of her biggest promises and how the French, German and Dutch political elites have turned us into an handling migrants center and aren't taking any.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Interesting video.
I spied at some point a red T-shirt with the Albanian eagle :)
Sicily, Apulia, Calabria - fits with what I read that it were the poorest of the poor who went to USA. The cheapest tickets were for there. The richer people from Veneto or Lombarda went to Argentina or Brazil. Hence in South America Italians are "the tall blond peple who eat polenta".
Lombarda is not the name of the region but the female version of Lombardo🤣

Anyway, I think you need to define what richer is to you in that time period, because most of the Italians that came to Brazil and Latin America worked in the fields and had also little to no money on themselves...but yeah compared to the South Italians that went to gringoland they had considerably more, at least on paper.

About the blonde thing, it is first time I hear about it... because as an Italian Brazilian blondeness is associated with either Spanish (Galicians) Brazilians in the north or more commonly with Polish/Ukranian/Russian/German-Brazilians.

I think I wrote about it here how I heard of a local tale on how there is speculation of blonde northeastern Brazilian being descendants of (Spanish) Galicians.
 

Buba

A total creep
Sorry for the Lombarda. Should be Lombardia?

Cannot help you with those blond Italians - that is simply what I remember remember hearing? reading? decades ago.

Yes, richness is relative. I've heard it said that in post-WWII Portugal the richest of the poor emigrated by ship to USA or Brazil, the medium poor - by train to France or Luxemburg, and the poorest of the poor, from Alentejo, walked to Lisbon.

The blond Spanish Galicians could be a mix up with Polish/Ukrainian/Jewish/German Galicians from Galicia-Lodomeria. That name is a butcher's job of rendering Halicz-Włodzimierz (Volodomyr) into Latin.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Sorry for the Lombarda. Should be Lombardia?
Yep.
Cannot help you with those blond Italians - that is simply what I remember remember hearing? reading? decades ago.
No worries.
Yes, richness is relative. I've heard it said that in post-WWII Portugal the richest of the poor emigrated by ship to USA or Brazil, the medium poor - by train to France or Luxemburg, and the poorest of the poor, from Alentejo, walked to Lisbon.
Probably went like that yeah.
The blond Spanish Galicians could be a mix up with Polish/Ukrainian/Jewish/German Galicians from Galicia-Lodomeria. That name is a butcher's job of rendering Halicz-Włodzimierz (Volodomyr) into Latin.
Uh, no, though some definitely mixed together when they arrived in Brazil, we are talking about the Galicia IN SPAIN and not the Galicia of now the Ukraine; they are homonyms but that's about it.
 

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