EU General Italy Thread : Politics, Food, Tourism

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The fascist bastard who threatened to flamethrow people during the COVID lockdowns and forbade people from doing basic thing and suing political critics is complaining the current government is sending weapons but there is not money for health. While he is right, it is rich coming from this cunt.

De Luca: "Per sanità pubblica governo non ha trovato un euro, per armi sì. Vogliono vincere sul campo? Russia ha l'atomica" - Il Fatto Quotidiano

“Aumentano le spese militari per l’Ucraina. I governi europei, e il governo italiano tra questi, sono autorizzati a sforare il patto di stabilità. Per la sanità pubblica non hanno trovato un euro, per gli armamenti sono tutti quanti pronti ad andare oltre la soglia del debito pubblico che già...

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There are rumours of the military draft being reintroduced.

Servizio di leva obbligatorio, in quali casi può essere ripristinato?

Le liste di leva di quest'anno hanno allarmato notevolmente gli italiani, ignari del fatto che il servizio di leva obbligatorio può essere ripristinato. Ecco in quali casi.

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This cunt complain that Meloni didn't use the word fascism during the Day of Memory :

Giornata della Memoria, Montanari a La7: "Meloni non ha pronunciato la parola 'fascismo', ha evitato di dire che è stata anche colpa nostra" - Il Fatto Quotidiano

“Le parole di Giorgia Meloni sulla Shoah in occasione della giornata della Memoria? Francamente non le trovo molto chiare. A me invece è parso un messaggio molto astratto, che evitava accuratamente di dire che è stata colpa nostra e in particolare dell’Italia fascista. Meloni non ha mai...

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Meloni also went to Tripoli, apparently and allegedly ENI is trying or has recovered its primacy in the Lybian industry sector.

Meloni a Tripoli per gas e migranti. Accordo da 8 miliardi: l’Eni rafforza il suo primato in Libia - Il Fatto Quotidiano

Un accordo da 8 miliardi di dollari per aumentare la produzione di gas a favore del mercato interno libico e garantire l’esportazione in Europa. E un’intesa per supportare la Libia con cinque imbarcazioni attrezzate nel campo della ricerca e soccorso di migranti in difficoltà in mare. La premier...

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Istrian-Dalmatian exodus was the diaspora or forced migration of ethnic Italians from Istria, Fiume, and Dalmatia, after World War II. Those territories were ethnically mixed since the Middle Ages. Most people were Italians, but there were also Slovenian, Croatian, Serbian and other communities.

National Memorial Day of the Exiles and Foibe is Italian celebration in memory of all exiles and victims in massacres of Foibe: murdered and survived.

Date	1943–1960
Location	Yugoslavia
Cause	The Treaty of Peace with Italy, signed after the Second World War, assigned the former Italian territories of Istria, Kvarner, the Julian March, and Dalmatia to the nation of Yugoslavia
Participants	Local ethnic Italians (Istrian Italians and Dalmatian Italians), as well as ethnic Slovenes, Croats, and Istro-Romanians who chose to maintain Italian citizenship.
Outcome	Between 230,000 and 350,000 people emigrated from Yugoslavia to Italy and, in a smaller number, towards the Americas, Australia and South Africa.[1][2]

Horror in Slovenia: Over 3,000 Bodies Discovered

Skeletal remains of massacred victims at Macesnova Gorica, Slovenia

In September 2022 a team of speleologists and anthropologists investigating the foibaof Macesnova Gorica, in Slovenia, reported that they had identified more than 3,000 bodies belonging to victims massacred by the Yugoslav Partisans of Communist dictator Josip Broz Tito.

These were victims of the Kočevski Rog Massacre. In truth only a fraction of the victims, as the total number of people killed in this massacre could be as high as 30,000 people, buried in multiple different locations. This most recent investigation at the Macesnova Gorica site resulted in the recovery of over 3,000 skeletal remains.

The bodies are mostly of adult men, but with a high percentage of children, namely young boys between the ages of 13 and 17. They are said to be primarily Slovenian civilians, though the presence of other nationalities – including Italians and Croats – can not be excluded.

The victims were arrested in May 1945 by Tito's Partisans and detained in the village of Šentvid, near Ljubljana. after the war had already ended. Between June 9 and June 15 they were brought to Macesnova Gorica and dumped into deep pits known as foibe. According to the team, no less than 30 bodies were discovered in isolated tunnels, indicating that they had been thrown alive into the abyss and attempted to escape by dragging themselves into small openings of the crevice, only to die a slow and agonizing death beneath the earth's surface.

Based on the experts' analysis of the remains, as many as 500 bodies had been dismembered as a result of explosives thrown onto the pile of bodies by the Yugoslav Partisans, in an attempt to kill the still-breathing victims and cause a collapse of the cave's walls in order to cover up the bodies.

On September 28, 2022 the Bishop of Novo Mesto and President of the Slovenian Bishops' Conference Andrej Saje visited the horrific site.

Visibly shaken, he stated the following after his visit:

"I am deeply disturbed by the criminal acts that have been carried out here, and I express my expectation that the State and responsible authorities will ensure that all those who were violently murdered during and after World War II receive a dignified burial and have a place in the nation's historical memory."

The largest cemetery in Slovenia's capital, Žale Cemetery, as well as the municipality of Ljubiana itself, have already rejected any notion of hosting the remains of the victims. This is quite reflective of a country that still refuses to come to terms with its past. Denialism of crimes and justification of brutalities is unfortunately very common in this region of Europe.

This is far from the only skeleton in Slovenia's closet. The country is home to some of the largest mass graves in Europe, known as "silenced mass graves" (zamolčana grobišča) because for decades their existence was concealed from the public.

It is estimated that in total there are over 700 different sites where Tito's Communist partisans killed, 'infoibed' or disposed of their victims' bodies in the period between May-September 1945. What has been uncovered at Macesnova Gorica is merely one of the hundreds of mass graves, connected to but one of innumerable massacres carried out by the Yugoslav Partisans.

The Slovene-Yugoslav partisans also slaughtered thousands of Italians in the Foibe Massacres. They chased thousands more Italian civilians out of their homes in Istria and Julian Venetia, before repopulating the territory with Yugoslav settlers. Capodistria (Koper), the 5th largest city in Slovenia, was 92% Italian in 1900; now the Italians are less than 5% of the population, owing to the genocide conducted by those who today are still exalted as 'heroes' and 'liberators' in Slovenia.

Slovenia is not yet prepared to admit or acknowledge how it treated its own people, let alone admit the role it played in the horrific crimes and ethnic cleansing perpetrated against the Italian population who lived in these lands since time immemorial – since before the Slovenes themselves did.

Sources:

• Trieste Cafe - Orrore in Slovenia, riesumati 3.000 corpi delle vittime dei partigiani titini del giugno 1945 dall'abisso di Macesnova Gorica (16 ottobre 2022)
• Nova24TV - Ogrin ob koncu izkopa pobitih v Macesnovi gorici v Kočevskem rogu: "Brezno, ki je skrivalo to strahoto, je zdaj odprto in prazno" (15. 10. 2022)
• Nova24TV - Kočevski rog: Grozljiva odkritja (29. 9. 2022)

 

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@Buba IF I had to make a comparison WITH Poland, Istrian and Dalmatian cities were like your Wilno or Lwow.

 

[Buba]

@Buba IF I had to make a comparison WITH Poland, Istrian and Dalmatian cities were like your Wilno or Lwow.

Europe is full of such examples.
The Poles and Czechs were nasty to expelled Germans too.
Lots of bad feelings ...

 

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Europe is full of such examples.
The Poles and Czechs were nasty to expelled Germans too.
Lots of bad feelings ...

We Italians had the idiocy of putting that mental nutcase of Ante Pavelic in charge of Croatia and we paid dearly. Not like the Germans, because many were killed ( and infoibati) but many more expelled.

I remember reading history articles about how quickly most Italian soldiers in the Balkan did everything they could to not cooperate with the Ustashe genocidal plans against Serbs and in fact did the contrary. I remember talking with a Serb telling me that were Italian soldiers that saved his grandparent from the Ustashe.

I also remember many Ustashe becoming turncoats at the last minute to avoid a people's justice from Tito.

Of course, Italy was on the "winning" side at the last moment and didn't loose as badly as Germany. And it's a miracle it was already recognized by our own government in the 2000s.

 

[TheRejectionist]

@Captain X surprised to see you here. I guess you are interested to visit in the future, interested in the politics or both ?

I don't get the angry reaction.... would you explain it to me?

 

[Captain X]

My hatred of commies and the shit that they did to people.

 

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[Buba]

I feel that after such a foodporn orgy I'd leave Italy in a coffin
BTW - on the subject of Italy and food - do a search for "Pollenta Taragnarok" - amusing video, if you like heavy metal taken humorously.
I will now always associate "superuomo" with "draco de lago di como"