Terthna
Professional Lurker
Hopefully with emphasis on the "if", because it sounds like a really bad plan, as presented.
Important Going Forward
- Thread starter LordSunhawk
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KnightTemplar
Active member
When you say that you will consider reviewing existing bans, do you mean forum bans or site bans?
Battlestar
Member
Surprised this was not the first thing to be addressed in order to move forward and not keep digging into the past.
When I took over the site I agreed to not make any changes until the transition completed in February. Reviewing existing bans was part of this agreement. That events outside our control forced this schedule to move forward was not part of the plan, and thus things are far more chaotic than I would desire.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
What caused the need move the schedule forward?
You confuse me. Do you mean to say you are still bound by the agreement? or that since the schedule has been moved you are allowed to but can't do so due to the chaos at present among other distractions?
That being said, Sunhawk do you have any plans to eventually do a formal review of some of the past bans and redefine/review the terms of the TOS. (Not asking for an concrete answer here, merely if you have plans eventually look into these issues within the next month or two.)
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The Mandarin
Claim, Assert, Dominate.
Blanket amnesty to all users perm banned in the last four months might do a solid to jolt activity. Seems like you guys lost your most colorful and polemic and attention drawing users. Just a thought
ShieldWife
Marchioness
I agree with this, I strongly support a blanket amnesty as well. Not only on principle but also because we have lost a number of interesting posters.
The Mandarin
Claim, Assert, Dominate.
Like, the conduct of some of the mods towards the banned users as a lurker made me think the staff should have been purged and the users they hated modded in their place. And the cullings that took place in response during the election? the smugposting by Government employees all "hurr durr we banned ur gaiz deal wit it" was completely disgusting. I don't think anything regarding users being removed since like November should be considered legitimate. Maybe earlier? That'd be up to you guys to pursue. But like, the site had some straight up scumbag staffers and two or three of them didn't ragequit with the old boss so there decisions should be reversed. Interesting posters are the lifesblood of any forum, boring overserious clown people aren't.
In my experience, all too many of the "interesting" posters on any given forum earn that title for being really funny to watch when they're tearing into someone. Which is great, unless you're the someone, or until the rest of the forum decides to start copying the posting habits of the local dunk machine. Neither one is good for any kind of productive discussion.
The Mandarin
Claim, Assert, Dominate.
Really? That's how some of the largest and most robust forums are though. If you hate money but run a business, maybe you don't want those guys but if you enjoy profit?
ShieldWife
Marchioness
Were people here banned for “tearing into someone” or was the ban more ideological in nature? I think it’s more often been the later.
Zoe even said her moderation policies for the past several months were intended to kill the forum. That statement alone justified a blanket amnesty.
Zoe even said her moderation policies for the past several months were intended to kill the forum. That statement alone justified a blanket amnesty.
The Mandarin
Claim, Assert, Dominate.
Lol if that's the case then not only should anyone banned since then be given amnesty but any staff affiliated with her should be removed.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
That might include a lot of the current staff, in fact you might say that anybody who was staff under her was affiliated with her to some degree. So I wouldn’t quite go that far, but I do think it would only be fair and just to reverse all permanent bans.
She said the following:
Zoe said:
I support reviewing past bans, but not granting past amnesty outside of the “no infractions” rule for Politics.
I think it depends on the poster
Pretty much this. I've seen enough forums go under because chestbeating and dunking on people replaced productive discussion. It was fun for a while, but it drove away any other kind of engagement. When it was no longer fun, people had no reason to come back. Better that this be a community than a circus with a barker and a freak show.
I forgot a word -- I oppose blanket amnesty except for the new no-infractions-in-Politics rule.
That I agree with
Prince Ire
Section XIII
I'm not entirely sure what the proposed restrictions for the politics section are supposed to accomplish.