Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

Husky_Khan

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I'm just going to posit that maybe, just maybe, a state that has been through a vicious civil war for ten-plus years isn't going to suddenly turn around and attack a far more dangerous opponent and would get torn in shreds if it was stupid enough to do so.

That's the best time to attack, because no rational actor with any sense would expect it (or contemplate doing it)! (y)
 

AmosTrask

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Looks like the "call to arms" inspired one Islamic State nut to shoot two people at the Swedish game.
Taste of their own medicine is fair I think. Let's announce our own "Day of Vengeance." Where we flatten several Palestinian settlements and shoot anything that moves. Enact the Old Testament on their asses.
 

Terthna

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Palestine itself will not accept a two state solution and wants nothing more than to drive the Jews into the sea.

They’ve made it into an existential conflict, and in the end one side will have to utterly finish the other to make it end. Why this Israelis don’t get that nastiness over with is mysterious to me. Don’t even need to do anything properly nasty, just crush the Palestinians, take their land, scatter them to the wind.

The ram touched the wall long ago.
Because of pressure from American and Europe; who, for a number of reasons, refuse to allow Israel to end the conflict.
 

Cherico

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Because of pressure from American and Europe; who, for a number of reasons, refuse to allow Israel to end the conflict.

You have 10 options all of them bad, you decide not to make a decision because you think you can find a golden best way of doing things. Time passes 5 of the least bad options are no longer on the table.

You have 5 options for handling a problem all of them are bad you decide to not make a decision because your convinced there is a better way, time passes the least bad option is no longer on the table.

You have 4 options for handling a problem all of them bad you decide not to make a decison because you are fucking convinced your going to magic up that best option, time passes the least bad option is no longer possible.

You have 3 options for handling a problem all of them are shit but your convinced that this time you have the better way, time passes the least bad option is now gone.

You have a problem its gotten a lot fucking worse you now have two options both of them incredibly shit, you decide not to take the less shitty options because you think your a fucking genus because you went to yale.

You have a problem there is only one option and its the worst option of the lot and you dont have any other choices.


Some times people dont want to admit that life is a series of trade offs and you make the best of your shitty options they get their heads in the clouds and it leads to disaster.
 

Jormungandr

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You have 10 options all of them bad, you decide not to make a decision because you think you can find a golden best way of doing things. Time passes 5 of the least bad options are no longer on the table.

You have 5 options for handling a problem all of them are bad you decide to not make a decision because your convinced there is a better way, time passes the least bad option is no longer on the table.

You have 4 options for handling a problem all of them bad you decide not to make a decision because you are fucking convinced your going to magic up that best option, time passes the least bad option is no longer possible.

You have 3 options for handling a problem all of them are shit but your convinced that this time you have the better way, time passes the least bad option is now gone.

You have a problem its gotten a lot fucking worse you now have two options both of them incredibly shit, you decide not to take the less shitty options because you think your a fucking genus because you went to yale.

You have a problem there is only one option and its the worst option of the lot and you don't have any other choices.


Sometimes people don't want to admit that life is a series of trade offs and you make the best of your shitty options they get their heads in the clouds and it leads to disaster.
This.

By this point, and as I've said before, I can't see Israel having anything but only a few options left -- All of those options range from "least evil" to "abominably evil". There is no solution "which'd benefit both groups and create peace", and better men than I have tried for decades on decades to try to find one.

They can't just kick the can down the road anymore, as the Palestinians will continue to just escalate and commit more atrocities. They're a death cult.
 

AmosTrask

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If you kids have preparedness plans, dust them off and be ready. I think we're going to war. I hope the fucking war is contained in the Middle East. But the animals might drag us all in. The West has called all citizens in the ME to come home. That's usually an indicator of open war about to break out. Iran is currently desperate to stay in power and they may decide an outside war might solve their problem. The worst evil hiding in human psyches are about to break out in the Middle East. Those nuclear sniffer planes circling Pakistan for the last two weeks is concerning. When it is combined with the nuclear rhetoric Pakistan is spouting on behalf of Hamas. Iran is just crazy enough to attack with Biden there.

As a Theocrat the Ayatollah will lose face and power if he doesn't come to the aid of a Muslim Country. They've recalled all their reserves to service. Calls to Jihad and patriotism have quadrupled since the 8th. I can't help but feel this is China and Russia fanning the flames
 
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mrttao

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In a fit of stupidity, Michigan congresswoman Rashida Talib flies Hamas and LGBTQP flags side by side in Michigan capital.
Someone ought to tell her that Hamas kills all LGBTQPs
 

TheRejectionist

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If you kids have preparedness plans, dust them off and be ready. I think we're going to war. I hope the fucking war is contained in the Middle East. But the animals might drag us all in.
WHAT? The only one pretending to drag us into a conflict Europe hasn't started is Israel with his lobbied buddy the US. I think the fact our governments in Europe already sided with Israel verbally and diplomatically is enough, we don't need to be in with Israel or the US on this. And they did it without asking for a vote in the parliaments or from the people.
The West has called all citizens in the ME to come home.
No?
That's usually an indicator of open war about to break out.
That might be applied to cases like Sudan but that's not universal.
Iran is currently desperate to stay in power and they may decide an outside war might solve their problem. The worst evil hiding in human psyches are about to break out in the Middle East.
Again, how and why? Not only Iran had nothing to do with it, Hamas is not hosted or financed by Iran but is in Qatar
Those nuclear sniffer planes circling Pakistan for the last two weeks is concerning.
Because Pakistan is a multinational heterogenous unstable Islamic Republic that is nominally US and China-backed.
When it is combined with the nuclear rhetoric Pakistan is spouting on behalf of Hamas.
True.
Iran is just crazy enough to attack with Biden there.
No? Iran has 87,92 milions (2021) of pops, meanwhile Pakistan has 231,4 milions (2021) not to mention the second is unstable as hell and nuclear armerd and of a different line of Islam. Not to mention that both share a separatist problem which is Balochestan. So they have plenty of reason to not attack.

Your take is laughable as the notion that Syria is going to attack Israel after is recovering slowly from a nine and half year conflict. They are certainly angry that Israel helped the guys who leveled their country, among them Wahabi and Salafi jihadis, but not enough angry to die in a near-suicidal charge like Hamas.
 

Agent23

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Palestinians would lost,only question is who send them on suicidal attack - Moscov,Iran,or somebody else.
Militia with suicidal idiots would never defeat army,especially army supported by USA.
They are basically the Black Hand/Servia in a WWI context and North Korea in a Korean War context.
 
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Lord Sovereign

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Some times people dont want to admit that life is a series of trade offs and you make the best of your shitty options they get their heads in the clouds and it leads to disaster.
This is essentially default geopolitics that the West has convinced itself is all horrid, old, and a thing of the past.

Pretty speeches and high minded ideals do not move the gears of history. Only Iron and Blood can.

If Palestine will not give Israel peace, then Palestine must be destroyed. Either that, or given half a chance Palestine will destroy Israel. That is the way of the world, as much as my heart is heavy to say it.
 

Blasterbot

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This is essentially default geopolitics that the West has convinced itself is all horrid, old, and a thing of the past.

Pretty speeches and high minded ideals do not move the gears of history. Only Iron and Blood can.

If Palestine will not give Israel peace, then Palestine must be destroyed. Either that, or given half a chance Palestine will destroy Israel. That is the way of the world, as much as my heart is heavy to say it.
Fucking sucks. Wish I could see a different path for that. but there really is no good solution to that shit show. It takes both sides agreeing for peace to happen.
 

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