Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

King Arts

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Don't help them.

The Palastinains were helped by the Jordaians and they knifed them in the back, they were helped by the Egyptians and they were knifed in the back. They were helped by the Kutaties and they knifed them in the back, and what they did to Lebonon was fucking horrific. This is a group of people who firmly deserve every bit of suffering they get.
I know about the Jordanians and the Lebanese, but what are Kutaties?
 

Cherico

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I know about the Jordanians and the Lebanese, but what are Kutaties?

misspelling it most likely when Sadam invaded Kuwate the PLO supported Sadam, dispite the fact that the country sheltered them for decades and supported them and gave their people succor and gave their wealth. When the war was over and Iraq removed the government kicked all of them out dispite the fact they were more then a 10th of the population because seriously fuck those guys.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
Frankly if you are accurate in describing American military personnel as 'federal property', that would axiomatically imply that as slaves of the state they have no actual rights for the duration of their contract, only certain privileges bestowed upon them by their master (who can of course revoke said privileges at will), certainly including the UCMJ. If that were actually the case then the question of how to get rid of far-left rot in the ranks suddenly becomes a lot simpler to answer - a sufficiently hardline SecDef & generals can just write up a list of anyone they think is a commie and have them shot, no question asked and no trial needed. Looking through their Internet history would basically be an optional afterthought, and very far indeed from the worst that can be done to them in that case.

Legally speaking, being a soldier is explicitly not considered employment -- a precedent set specifically to avoid the headache of trying to apply civil rights and employee protection laws to soldiers, and there are *many, many, many* things that the government is expressly permitted to mandate on soldiers that would be civil rights violations for ordinary citizens.

It's a humorous exaggeration to say you sign away your rights when you enlist and/or to say that soldiers are federal property . . . but it's an exaggeration, not a fabrication.
 

Cherico

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Legally speaking, being a soldier is explicitly not considered employment -- a precedent set specifically to avoid the headache of trying to apply civil rights and employee protection laws to soldiers, and there are *many, many, many* things that the government is expressly permitted to mandate on soldiers that would be civil rights violations for ordinary citizens.

It's a humorous exaggeration to say you sign away your rights when you enlist and/or to say that soldiers are federal property . . . but it's an exaggeration, not a fabrication.

But at the same time its probally a bad idea to seriously mistreat the guys with guns and training in how to use them.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
But at the same time its probally a bad idea to seriously mistreat the guys with guns and training in how to use them.

The government has thought otherwise for many, many years, far predating modern politics. Military barracks and accommodations are notoriously terrible, and often outright unsafe -- the only time this has ever been challenged, the government invoked sovereign immunity to say it couldn't be sued for literally getting soldiers killed by sheer bad maintenance.
 

Cherico

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The government has thought otherwise for many, many years, far predating modern politics. Military barracks and accommodations are notoriously terrible, and often outright unsafe -- the only time this has ever been challenged, the government invoked sovereign immunity to say it couldn't be sued for literally getting soldiers killed by sheer bad maintenance.

I never claimed our government was smart I simply stated it was a bad idea.
 

King Arts

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misspelling it most likely when Sadam invaded Kuwate the PLO supported Sadam, dispite the fact that the country sheltered them for decades and supported them and gave their people succor and gave their wealth. When the war was over and Iraq removed the government kicked all of them out dispite the fact they were more then a 10th of the population because seriously fuck those guys.
Ahh you meant Kuwaitis that makes sense.
 

Terthna

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Don't help them.

The Palastinains were helped by the Jordaians and they knifed them in the back, they were helped by the Egyptians and they were knifed in the back. They were helped by the Kutaties and they knifed them in the back, and what they did to Lebonon was fucking horrific. This is a group of people who firmly deserve every bit of suffering they get.
Ah, but don't you understand? None of that matters to members of the death cult. The only things that do are signaling one's virtues, and the destruction of western civilization.
 

TyrantTriumphant

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Thats a meaningless statement. The same applies to Islam and Christianity. It’s no reason for Christians to prefer one group of no Christian over another.
There very much is. Muslims have it written in their holy book that all non-Muslims are to be destroyed or conquered. Jews have no such commandment.

Muslims have been an existential enemy to Christianity ever since the founding of Islam. Just look at a map of the Muslim world. Much of that land used to be Christian. Now Christianity in North Africa and the Levant are nearly extinct.

Jews on the other hand haven't seriously tried to destroy Christianity since around nineteen hundred years ago. And don't bring up some video of some Ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting on Christians, that is nothing compared to the wars and genocides Muslims have committed against Christians.

So it is very rational for Christians to support Jews against Muslims.
 

King Arts

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There very much is. Muslims have it written in their holy book that all non-Muslims are to be destroyed or conquered. Jews have no such commandment.

Muslims have been an existential enemy to Christianity ever since the founding of Islam. Just look at a map of the Muslim world. Much of that land used to be Christian. Now Christianity in North Africa and the Levant are nearly extinct.

Jews on the other hand haven't seriously tried to destroy Christianity since around nineteen hundred years ago. And don't bring up some video of some Ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting on Christians, that is nothing compared to the wars and genocides Muslims have committed against Christians.

So it is very rational for Christians to support Jews against Muslims.

An active mandate to commit religious genocide seems like a pretty relevant reason to prefer or not prefer a group.
You are wrong about that. Judaism teaches to destroy idolatry. This is basic Old Testament stuff. And has been expanded upon by rabbis.
Just because Jews haven’t been able to physically destroy or oppress Christians doesn’t mean that their faith doesn’t say that should happen to us.
 

Bigking321

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You are wrong about that. Judaism teaches to destroy idolatry.
What...?

How is that even remotely comparable?

It really feels like you're reaching here.

Edit:

Are you sure about this? All I can find is that idols are bad and not to have any. Not to go out into the world and destroy them all. And idols don't equal other people.

Is that in some specific Jewish text I'm not aware of?
 
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King Arts

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What...?

How is that even remotely comparable?

It really feels like you're reaching here.

Edit:

Are you sure about this? All I can find is that idols are bad and not to have any. Not to go out into the world and destroy them all. And idols don't equal other people.

Is that in some specific Jewish text I'm not aware of?

Idolatry is bad and those who do it are evil. When the Jews actually had a state in the Old Testament idolatry was illegal and punished.
 

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