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Bear Ribs

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Las Angeles Trustee has explained that re-opening schools is racist, white supremacy, and actually slavery.

The Hispanic minorities she was accusing of being white supremacists didn't seem to be amused.
 

Bear Ribs

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And an additional one for the day...


Near as I can tell, this Colorado teacher is removing racism (which is also slavery) from the classroom by introducing... the Labor Theory of Value to grading. That's right, quality no longer matters, as long as the student has put in the hours they're guaranteed a high grade regardless of whether or not their papers are readable. The students and teachers have to come to an agreement as to how much labor is worth what grade at the beginning of the year and then renegotiate at mid-terms to make sure systemic racism hasn't crept into the grading system.

Favorite Quote:

A friend of mine who taught dental students favored the use of grades but was willing to weigh the question. He once lined up some large models of teeth and asked me to look at them. He pointed out the smooth contours, perfect fits, and strength of fillings in the teeth at the beginning of the row and then described carefully the progressive irregularities in teeth farther down the row. Having told me about the differences, he pointed out that I could see them clearly, though I was not a dentist. Then he asked triumphantly, “Why shouldn’t I grade them from A to F?” My answer startled him. I merely said, “You just told me why you should not.”

Because obviously there's no reason to think a set of teeth should fit together and have strong fillings... all models are equally good.
 

AnimalNoodles

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And an additional one for the day...


Near as I can tell, this Colorado teacher is removing racism (which is also slavery) from the classroom by introducing... the Labor Theory of Value to grading. That's right, quality no longer matters, as long as the student has put in the hours they're guaranteed a high grade regardless of whether or not their papers are readable. The students and teachers have to come to an agreement as to how much labor is worth what grade at the beginning of the year and then renegotiate at mid-terms to make sure systemic racism hasn't crept into the grading system.

Favorite Quote:

A friend of mine who taught dental students favored the use of grades but was willing to weigh the question. He once lined up some large models of teeth and asked me to look at them. He pointed out the smooth contours, perfect fits, and strength of fillings in the teeth at the beginning of the row and then described carefully the progressive irregularities in teeth farther down the row. Having told me about the differences, he pointed out that I could see them clearly, though I was not a dentist. Then he asked triumphantly, “Why shouldn’t I grade them from A to F?” My answer startled him. I merely said, “You just told me why you should not.”

Because obviously there's no reason to think a set of teeth should fit together and have strong fillings... all models are equally good.

The next step is that people from higher intersectional castes will be graded based on thier labour, while people from lower intersectional castes will be graded based on the content of thier work, with appropriate balancers for privilege. Its the logical extension of Equity.
 

Rocinante

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The next step is that people from higher intersectional castes will be graded based on thier labour, while people from lower intersectional castes will be graded based on the content of thier work, with appropriate balancers for privilege. Its the logical extension of Equity.
the only positive here is that a system like this can not possibly be stable or maintainable.

Though I feel it's going to be painful in the short term and likely for a period after...this system will come crashing down and hopefully not too much damage will be caused before we return to sanity.
 

AnimalNoodles

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the only positive here is that a system like this can not possibly be stable or maintainable.

Though I feel it's going to be painful in the short term and likely for a period after...this system will come crashing down and hopefully not too much damage will be caused before we return to sanity.

It can last a very long time. Why?

Mass immigration.

Remember, the point of this is bioleninism. They need to 1) Provide the underclass with jobs and 2) generate a politically reliable and credentialed class of middle managers.

So you create justifications for simply giving people from the underclass the needed credentials, then you can shove them into positions as overseers on that basis. Their lack of actual educational attainment is bonus, as this makes them a client class that is dependent on the elite patron class for their status.

Thus you pacify the underclass with positions of power, you turn them into clients and use them to keep the whites in line while not having to make the expensive and very painful work of actually educating the population

Where do you get you expertise then? Well, you simply import them from places like China and India while the children of the elite attend exclusive private schools. Corporations get the skills they need without having to pay taxes to educate people.

As long as American Corporations are able to mass import their labour, the system can be maintained indefinitely.
 
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Argent

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Las Angeles Trustee has explained that re-opening schools is racist, white supremacy, and actually slavery.

The Hispanic minorities she was accusing of being white supremacists didn't seem to be amused.

You have to wonder what level crazy this person works at. When here in the real world it is the poorer mostly minority groups that are hurting more from homeschooling.

It is the richer families where the parent can work from home and has the ability to help that are doing fine. It is the families that live in houses where kids can work in quite and separate rooms that will be fine. It is the families that have a true high speed internet for zoom calls that will be fine. It is the ones with a high end computer that are doing fine.


The ones struggling are the kids that have to share a kitchen table. The ones who parents still have to go go work durning the day. The ones with parents that barely passed highscool or dropped out that are struggling. The ones that use the cheap laptops the school provided that are having problems. The ones with limited internet or even using McDonald's wifi that are struggling.


If anything not opening the schools is more in line with being a "White Supremacist" then opening them. Getting kids back into an environment with ready access to a teacher should be a goal that everyone is striving for.

So I not surprised that the great Liberal State of California with San Francisco and San Diego talking about how only racists want to reopen the schools. They have more important things to do like renaming schools like Washington High School.
 

Cherico

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Las Angeles Trustee has explained that re-opening schools is racist, white supremacy, and actually slavery.

The Hispanic minorities she was accusing of being white supremacists didn't seem to be amused.

congratulations latinos like the Irish, swedish, Italians, and even us jews you are now officially white.
 

Basileus_Komnenos

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congratulations latinos like the Irish, swedish, Italians, and even us jews you are now officially white.
According to critical race theorists all Asian Americans count as white now. Dang as an Indian-American I wish someone told the British this when they ruled over us lmao.

Even the term "white" as a racial category is so arbitrary as there's so many groups within that due to America being a melting pot. If you go to Europe, there isn't a pan European identity, but there's that of the French, English, German, Polish, Italian, etc.

We should all be seeing each other as Americans rather than trying group people based on skin color, but then again these people are too stupid to understand how they're unironically trying to bring back segregations and the old racial caste systems.
 

Cherico

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According to critical race theorists all Asian Americans count as white now. Dang as an Indian-American I wish someone told the British this when they ruled over us lmao.

Even the term "white" as a racial category is so arbitrary as there's so many groups within that due to America being a melting pot. If you go to Europe, there isn't a pan European identity, but there's that of the French, English, German, Polish, Italian, etc.

We should all be seeing each other as Americans rather than trying group people based on skin color, but then again these people are too stupid to understand how they're unironically trying to bring back segregations and the old racial caste systems.

let me explain their mentality.

equality is everything to them that is their end all be all moral drive nothing else matters to them. If some one has more then its not because of hard work, good decisions or not doing stupid shit its because they cheated and must be punished.
 

LordsFire

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According to critical race theorists all Asian Americans count as white now. Dang as an Indian-American I wish someone told the British this when they ruled over us lmao.

Even the term "white" as a racial category is so arbitrary as there's so many groups within that due to America being a melting pot. If you go to Europe, there isn't a pan European identity, but there's that of the French, English, German, Polish, Italian, etc.

We should all be seeing each other as Americans rather than trying group people based on skin color, but then again these people are too stupid to understand how they're unironically trying to bring back segregations and the old racial caste systems.

Oh no, for some of them it's quite well understood, and very much intentional. Segregated societies are easier to manipulate and subjugate.
 

ParadiseLost

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And an additional one for the day...


For the first page, the teacher actually makes some pretty good points about how the value of teacher grading is overweighed and that a lot of grading standards are essentially arbitrary.

Their thought process then rapidly degrades in both intelligence and quality as they hyperfixate on how all of educations problems are actually due to white supremacy.

Also, I think the quote in context makes sense. I don't agree entirely with his conclusions, but I understand the why of what he's saying.

I think its a case of a broken clock is right twice a day. They seem to be able to acknowledge and understand that there are some real problems with how grading works in classrooms, but bad philosophies prevent them from understanding the actual why's.

Edit: Also, looking at his grading rubric for students that he actually gives after his huge book...

Its nothing special.

Its just a bog standard participation grading system, which is already how most introductory writing systems essentially work. You're required to change things in response to instructor feedback, for example. He's not going to force you to change it in a specific way, but the idea of trying to correct a students bad writing habits is still there.

And reading it, and how standard it is, just makes me feel like he wrote a 200 page book on wokeness for wokeness's sake.
 
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Urabrask Revealed

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Oh no, for some of them it's quite well understood, and very much intentional. Segregated societies are easier to manipulate and subjugate.
Yeah. For example, recently I read an article about an election for the president of a school board. The candidates were a white guy (who was considered very qualified for the post) and a black woman. The board voted for the white guy. So of course the black woman accused him and the school board of racism. The school board immedially nullfied the election, apologized to the black woman and made her the president. The white guy apparently had also to apologize, but don't quote me on that.

This is what we get, a black supremancy society where white men have to step aside for unqualified black people because "muh racism, muh equality". The whiteleash is going to be spectacular...
 

Cherico

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Yeah. For example, recently I read an article about an election for the president of a school board. The candidates were a white guy (who was considered very qualified for the post) and a black woman. The board voted for the white guy. So of course the black woman accused him and the school board of racism. The school board immedially nullfied the election, apologized to the black woman and made her the president. The white guy apparently had also to apologize, but don't quote me on that.

This is what we get, a black supremancy society where white men have to step aside for unqualified black people because "muh racism, muh equality". The whiteleash is going to be spectacular...

white lash, latino lash, asian lash, and black lash.

because every one is slowly getting real sick of this shit.
 

Mimas

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Edit: Also, looking at his grading rubric for students that he actually gives after his huge book...

Its nothing special.

Its just a bog standard participation grading system, which is already how most introductory writing systems essentially work. You're required to change things in response to instructor feedback, for example. He's not going to force you to change it in a specific way, but the idea of trying to correct a students bad writing habits is still there.

And reading it, and how standard it is, just makes me feel like he wrote a 200 page book on wokeness for wokeness's sake.

I have to say that I'm impressed with your willingness to slog through that thing. I started reading through his book, got through the Front Matter, the introduction, and part of the first chapter. I then got frustrated with his writing and skipped to the appendices to see if he had things more concisely listed there.

And he's got a relatively standard syllabus as his fancy grading contract, a do-unto-others pledge, a time-labor spreadsheet, and a 'personal narrative' assignment.

And that's all I needed to read to be so very glad I've never had him as a teacher. The spreadsheet alone would have made me lose my patience for that class.
 

Cherico

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It can last a very long time. Why?

Mass immigration.

Remember, the point of this is bioleninism. They need to 1) Provide the underclass with jobs and 2) generate a politically reliable and credentialed class of middle managers.

So you create justifications for simply giving people from the underclass the needed credentials, then you can shove them into positions as overseers on that basis. Their lack of actual educational attainment is bonus, as this makes them a client class that is dependent on the elite patron class for their status.

Thus you pacify the underclass with positions of power, you turn them into clients and use them to keep the whites in line while not having to make the expensive and very painful work of actually educating the population

Where do you get you expertise then? Well, you simply import them from places like China and India while the children of the elite attend exclusive private schools. Corporations get the skills they need without having to pay taxes to educate people.

As long as American Corporations are able to mass import their labour, the system can be maintained indefinitely.


the worlds birth rate is cratering globally, even in the third world.

We are running out of peasants.
 

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