I think someone has miscalculated a few things...

[gral]

In the end of last month, Sérgio Moro, Brazilian Justice Minister, resigned, citing interference on part of President Jair Bolsonaro regarding the Federal Police(Moro had said the breaking point was disregarding his choice for a new Federal Police head). Moro had implied that this interference had to do with investigations on one of Bolsonaro's sons. As a note, rejecting Moro's choice was fully within Bolsonaro's rights, since there is a law stating appointing the head of the Federal Police is the prerogative of the President, so Moro couldn't accuse Bolsonaro of any crime; he tried to frame it as the President doing an immoral thing, though.

A few days later, Moro's lawyer said that he had the recordings of a ministerial meeting where Bolsonaro's interference was proven; supposedly Bolsonaro had said he wanted to make changes in Federal Police assignments, to 'protect' his family. Moro's lawyer also leaked small pieces of the recording(it's a 1 hour 54 minutes-long reunion), which showed 'explosive' things, like Bolsonaro calling São Paulo State Governor João Dória '(a pile of) shit' and Rio de Janeiro State Governor Wilson Witzel '(a pile of) manure', as well as Education Minister Abraham Weintraub saying 'If it was up to me, I would arrest all those crooks - beginning with the Supreme Court'.

The Supreme Court, which members dislike Bolsonaro both personally and for ideological reasons, and which has been favorable to suits asking for the reduction of the powers of the President of the Republic ever since Bolsonaro was sworn in(in Brazil, the Constitution says what the members of the Supreme Court say it does - that's why I have a profound dislike for the 'Constitution is a living document' argument), ordered that the recording was to be delivered to them. Meanwhile, left-leaning parties were asking for the recording(again, a recording of a private ministerial meeting) to be made public, sure that the revelations within would finally provide evidence to start an impeachment process.

Yesterday, after the markets closed, Judge Celso de Mello(who is scheduled to retire on September and has taken point on efforts to make Bolsonaro powerless) released the full recording. Surprisingly, the above-mentioned proof of interference wasn't there - he was talking about the bodyguards of his family members, which are Federal Police agents. But there were things like this:



Also, this:





And many, many others(which haven't been subbed yet). As a result, the Bolsonaro base is fully behind him again, screaming "Bolsonaro reeleito!"(next Presidential election will be in 2022), and the Education Minister is being considered for running for the São Paulo State Governorship(also in 2022)...

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Whoops, looks like the Brazillian Left's attempt of discrediting their hated foe backfired. Big time.
Can't wait til he repays their assholish acts in kind.

 

[gral]

Whoops, looks like the Brazillian Left's attempt of discrediting their hated foe backfired. Big time.
Can't wait til he repays their assholish acts in kind.

Right now, Bolsonaro seems to have won the fight with Congress, but is in a fight with the Supreme Court, who's attacking him and his supporters, daring him to send the troops to stop them(thus proving what the Left has always said about Bolsonaro, that he's a dictator).

Yesterday, a Supreme Court judge ordered the confiscation of cell phones and computers of 29 supporters of Bolsonaro that are highly active on social media. The confiscation is part of a 'fake news' inquiry that is illegal according to the Constitution, because, among other things, the judge in question is acting as judge, investigator and prosecutor by himself.

I've seen a guy(who does juridical consulting to government members on occasion) say that there is a way to stop the Supreme Court, but if things go on, there are big chances that either Bolsonaro will have to sic the military(something I'm not keen on, for a number of reasons), or he'll have to cave in(and if so, he'll be deposed soon after).

 

[Terthna]

Right now, Bolsonaro seems to have won the fight with Congress, but is in a fight with the Supreme Court, who's attacking him and his supporters, daring him to send the troops to stop them(thus proving what the Left has always said about Bolsonaro, that he's a dictator).

Yesterday, a Supreme Court judge ordered the confiscation of cell phones and computers of 29 supporters of Bolsonaro that are highly active on social media. The confiscation is part of a 'fake news' inquiry that is illegal according to the Constitution, because, among other things, the judge in question is acting as judge, investigator and prosecutor by himself.

I've seen a guy(who does juridical consulting to government members on occasion) say that there is a way to stop the Supreme Court, but if things go on, there are big chances that either Bolsonaro will have to sic the military(something I'm not keen on, for a number of reasons), or he'll have to cave in(and if so, he'll be deposed soon after).

Sounds like his opponents are essentially playing a game of chicken, on the expectation that he'll blink and they'll be able to then oust him.

 

[gral]

Sounds like his opponents are essentially playing a game of chicken, on the expectation that he'll blink and they'll be able to then oust him.

That's exactly what it is, and it's a game of chicken most people have no idea how it will end.

 

[Terthna]

That's exactly what it is, and it's a game of chicken most people have no idea how it will end.

Worst case scenario for them would be if Bolsonaro does seize total control of the government, uses it to annihilate them, and enjoys popular support in doing so. Seriously, what is with leftwing extremists and paving the way to power for their enemies? It's like they want to be subjected to extermination campaigns; or maybe there's just something about these ideologies that attracts those who suffer from a terminal combination of arrogance and stupidity.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Worst case scenario for them would be if Bolsonaro does seize total control of the government, uses it to annihilate them, and enjoys popular support in doing so. Seriously, what is with leftwing extremists and paving the way to power for their enemies? It's like they want to be subjected to extermination campaigns; or maybe there's just something about these ideologies that attracts those who suffer from a terminal combination of arrogance and stupidity.

Does that mean if they're hated so much free helicopter rides will be met with thunderous applause?

 

[gral]

Worst case scenario for them would be if Bolsonaro does seize total control of the government, uses it to annihilate them, and enjoys popular support in doing so.

Not exactly that. Worst-case scenario for them is the majority of the population rising in support of Bolsonaro and him using that to clean up house.

However:

- Leftists in Brazil are around 25-35% of the electorate;

- Militant rightists are less than that, say 20-30%(although Bolsonaro himself has a higher support than that, about 33% of hard-core followers, and some 20% of people who tend towards supporting him).

What would happen if things start getting violent, given the above?

Does that mean if they're hated so much free helicopter rides will be met with thunderous applause?

For some(many) individual politicians, yes. Once things get ideological, it'll be a cluster-fuck of epic proportions.