LGBTQ education is now mandatory in N.J. schools.

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For a high school history assignment on the Holocaust, Olivia Loesch chose the pink triangle, used by the Nazis to persecute gay men in concentration camps and decades later a symbol of pride for the gay rights movement.

“I never knew about it,” said Loesch, 15, a sophomore at Haddon Heights High who came out in seventh grade and now identifies as gender-queer. “I feel that the topic should be talked about and people should know about me.”

In history class, for example, students could learn about the thousands of gay men put in Nazi concentration camps and forced to wear pink triangles or about other significant moments in the gay rights movement. Or about people such as the late Barbra “Babs” Siperstein, an activist who made history as the first openly gay transgender person to serve on the Democratic National Committee. She was also the namesake behind pioneering New Jersey legislation that allowed transgender people to amend their birth certificates.

Or they could learn about Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg, who is gay and married to a man.

“LGBT history is part of American history. To tell our students anything other than that would be fictional," said Jon Oliveira, a spokesperson for Garden State Equality. "There’s so much information to be consumed in the classroom.”

The movement has its detractors, however, those who believe the curriculum is inappropriate and that parents, not schools, should teach their children at home about what they believe is a moral issue.

The Family Policy Alliance of New Jersey said it has 7,000 signatures on a petition opposing the instruction. Other opponents have asked to “opt-out” their children from the mandate, but the law doesn’t allow that.

“In many ways, this instruction will directly challenge biblical teaching on homosexuality and what parents choose to teach children at home,” the alliance posted on its website. “The radical left’s sexual indoctrination should not be forced upon our children!”

New Jersey joins California, Colorado, and Illinois in requiring public schools to teach lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender history and their battle for civil rights. The law requires schools to include instruction and textbooks and materials that accurately portray their political, economic, and social contributions. In addition to teaching about the LGBTQ community, Jersey schools also will teach about similar contributions from people with disabilities.

In South Jersey, Haddon Heights was selected from 50 districts in the region that applied to pilot the program. Districts were chosen based on need or existing work to create an LGBTQ-inclusive climate.

“We are always looking to see what we need to do so that all students feel safe and welcomed in the environment,” said Ron Corn, the district’s curriculum director.

During a meeting last week of the Gay Straight Alliance at Haddon Heights High, Loesch and other members hailed the new curriculum. They believe it will reduce bullying and help enlighten their classmates and teachers about things such as which gender pronoun they prefer.

“I’m hoping that it’s going to help open up a larger discussion about LGBTQ,” said special-education teacher Anna Sepanic, the group’s adviser.

Said sophomore Lola Rossi, 15: “How we’re normal and that we exist.”

Oliveria acknowledged that the biggest challenge will be combating misperceptions about the curriculum. Educators who work with Make It Better for Youth, a grassroots group that works with LGBTQ youth, developed the lesson plans.

Oliveria said at least two meetings are planned to discuss the curriculum with parents. The curriculum, he said, is not for Gay Pride Month or to talk with students about what the “LGBTQ does in their bedrooms.”

It will be up to local school boards to implement the state mandate, including how to teach the curriculum and what books to read. Teachers later will be able to modify the suggested curriculum and make their existing lesson plans for subjects such as science, math, and music more inclusive.

Oliveria said 45 lesson plans were written for the pilot program and will be taught in grades 5, 6, 8, 10 and 12 at the pilot schools. By the fall, 60 more lesson plans will be ready.

Teachers in the pilot districts will get help from curriculum coaches, he said. They will also be able to download lesson plans from a website, he said. A conference is also planned for May at Monmouth University.

Oliveria said the coalition wants to avoid the missteps that caused delays in California, where a similar law was adopted in 2011. The curriculum there has not fully been implemented, mainly because of push-back from conservative groups and parents.

“We’ve been working really hard on this,” he said.

Correction: A previous version of this article misspelled the name of Jon Oliveira.
“I never knew about it,” said Loesch, 15, a sophomore at Haddon Heights High who came out in seventh grade and now identifies as gender-queer. “I feel that the topic should be talked about and people should know about me.”
It's totally not a phase and I'm totally not just doing it for attention, mom, this is who I am.



 

Hlaalu Agent

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Leftists prove the evangelicals right with their actions. I can't believe that I have to pretty much agree that the US Christian evangelicals had it right when they said slippery slope.

We sure missed the writing on that wall. Though, it seems to be the human condition to ignore what becomes so blindly obvious in hindsight, or what we realize in hindsight to be so blindingly obvious. We are probably too caught up in the present to look into the past or future...

There is much more that I want to say, because this prompts so many thoughts about this. Though one thing occurs to me, is that we were so preoccupied with doing the right thing, or what we perceived as right, we didn't critically evaluate it.
 

Terthna

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Leftists prove the evangelicals right with their actions. I can't believe that I have to pretty much agree that the US Christian evangelicals had it right when they said slippery slope.
I don't agree; just because they ended up being right about what's happening now, does not mean that they were right about why. What we've got is a movement that has already accomplished its original goals, and been co-opted by people who don't actually care about the movement, but are merely invested in being activists; this was never part of the original plan, as the evangelicals claimed. Things like legalizing gay marriage, and actually enforcing our laws against assault and murder, even when the victim is a homosexual (and thus, in some people's minds, deserving of such), are things that needed to happen. Look up the Lavender Scare, and the events that led up to the Stonewall Riots; those sorts of things are what the evangelicals were trying to argue in favor of, when denouncing gays rights and warning about "slippery slopes".



We sure missed the writing on that wall. Though, it seems to be the human condition to ignore what becomes so blindly obvious in hindsight, or what we realize in hindsight to be so blindingly obvious. We are probably too caught up in the present to look into the past or future...

There is much more that I want to say, because this prompts so many thoughts about this. Though one thing occurs to me, is that we were so preoccupied with doing the right thing, or what we perceived as right, we didn't critically evaluate it.
We did, but it wasn't what you're thinking. The "writing on the wall" was when people like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton turned what was left of the civil rights movement into a protection racket; threatening to label businesses as "racist" and mobilize the black community against them, if they didn't pay up. This is what happens when movements don't dismantle themselves after achieving their goals, or set them in the first place; opportunists waltz in, and pervert them to serve more base purposes.
 

CarlManvers2019

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We did, but it wasn't what you're thinking. The "writing on the wall" was when people like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton turned what was left of the civil rights movement into a protection racket; threatening to label businesses as "racist" and mobilize the black community against them, if they didn't pay up. This is what happens when movements don't dismantle themselves after achieving their goals, or set them in the first place; opportunists waltz in, and pervert them to serve more base purposes.

Because the fight is “Never Over” and as Saint Anita Sarkeesian says

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They’ll be going on as if the world is ruled by the KKK even if every nation’s Communist and the world leaders are going by gender pronounds “?” and “!”
 

Terthna

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Because the fight is “Never Over” and as Saint Anita Sarkeesian says

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They’ll be going on as if the world is ruled by the KKK even if every nation’s Communist and the world leaders are going by gender pronounds “?” and “!”
And do you know why the fight can never be over? Because otherwise people like Anita Sarkeesian would have to go out and get real jobs, instead of guilting people into giving them money for a living.
 

CarlManvers2019

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And do you know why the fight can never be over? Because otherwise people like Anita Sarkeesian would have to go out and get real jobs, instead of guilting people into giving them money for a living.

Plus, there are people who get into “rebel culture” so strongly that they don’t admit when they’re the ones in charge and have been for quite a long while
 

Terthna

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Plus, there are people who get into “rebel culture” so strongly that they don’t admit when they’re the ones in charge and have been for quite a long while
Exactly; which is why I think this whole "slippery slope" nonsense is just that, because none of these activists actually give a hoot about actually accomplishing any of their supposed goals. It's not that they want to keep pushing things further; they just don't want to stop.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Exactly; which is why I think this whole "slippery slope" nonsense is just that, because none of these activists actually give a hoot about actually accomplishing any of their supposed goals. It's not that they want to keep pushing things further; they just don't want to stop.

And they also don’t want to deal with actually dangerous people let alone actual opposition

Which is why Islam gets a free pass in spite of their homophobia and sexism and anti-sexual liberties

I bet its guys like them that get even LGBT and black people and other minorities, even other Muslims to vote for Trump
 

Tiamat

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Because the fight is “Never Over” and as Saint Anita Sarkeesian says

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They’ll be going on as if the world is ruled by the KKK even if every nation’s Communist and the world leaders are going by gender pronounds “?” and “!”

This is what happens when political ideology replaces religion. It never ends well. Ask the Russians and Chinese....when they’re not being censored by their own governments, that is.
 

Cherico

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And do you know why the fight can never be over? Because otherwise people like Anita Sarkeesian would have to go out and get real jobs, instead of guilting people into giving them money for a living.

Anita is defitantly guilty of embezzlement, if we did live in a country where every one was treated equally she would be in prision instead she's sheilded from the conquences of her actions because of her gender.
 

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I don't agree; just because they ended up being right about what's happening now, does not mean that they were right about why. What we've got is a movement that has already accomplished its original goals, and been co-opted by people who don't actually care about the movement, but are merely invested in being activists; this was never part of the original plan, as the evangelicals claimed. Things like legalizing gay marriage, and actually enforcing our laws against assault and murder, even when the victim is a homosexual (and thus, in some people's minds, deserving of such), are things that needed to happen. Look up the Lavender Scare, and the events that led up to the Stonewall Riots; those sorts of things are what the evangelicals were trying to argue in favor of, when denouncing gays rights and warning about "slippery slopes".
I would echo this sentiment, and add to it by pointing to the example of Pete Buttigieg and the sometimes dismissive, disparaging, or potentially even 'homophobic' criticisms laid on him from people further to his left or more involved in cultural issues for his marriage and lifestyle being the 'wrong' kind or representation of homosexuality. Which is about the most eye-blinking 'what?' it's possible to present, but still been prominent enough that I presume everyone knows what kind of criticism I'm referencing.

Though, more directly on the topic, there is a value to historical references and teaching about LGBT folks--they can serve as useful windows into how different periods and cultures saw 'womanhood', 'manhood', and related the two to each other or themselves. Homosexuality/pederasty in Ancient Greece, as the pretty up-front example that occurs to me off the top of my head...And, well, as the article notes, apparently one girl didn't know that the Nazis included gays in their sights, and that's a noteworthy part of history from a simple standpoint of knowledge.
Can see why some folks might be concerned--even if I somewhat think those objections are probably overblown at best--but they're also going through local school boards a lot and that seems to be a primary hurdle/goal, so...folks will have input beyond the activist core who might be tempted to futz with things.
 

DarthOne

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I don't have a problem with people being taught about LGBT history as a elective or as part of larger discussion about a historical period. To use the Nazi example, you could weave it in with discussion about the Holocaust or the like.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I don't have a problem with people being taught about LGBT history as a elective or as part of larger discussion about a historical period. To use the Nazi example, you could weave it in with discussion about the Holocaust or the like.

Let’s just hope they don’t try convincing kids they’re Trans or constantly shame them for their “crimes”
 

Marduk

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Obvious culture war campaign is obvious. The aim is to make the progressive approved "good" identity groups look important and good to public school children, their parent's view of the issue (and groups) be damned.

You could make such a set of useless to 99% of people trivia about pretty much any group, yet we all know that the reason these particular groups are selected here rather than any others is ideological.

And of course, it's a pretty safe bet that the trivia will be indeed carefully selected to put the identity groups in question in a positive light, and controversies that would put them in a bad light, more interesting than most of the trivia given as examples, say, LGBT movement's historical romances with the idea of including pedophilia in the alphabet soup, or by what not exactly civil or scientific methods did some of these identities get themselves out of the mental health qualification, won't be mentioned.
 

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