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mrttao

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> lolberterian says
> See these evil corrupt corporations that are doing bad things, including colluding with the govt to break the law
> If tomorrow the govt disappeared those corporations will all become angels dedicated to the betterment of mankind

lol. lmao even.

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Hilarious self own.
See, most people knows that evil corporations collude with organized crime syndicates like the govt and the deep state.

The problem is that lolberterians thinks that this somehow absolves the corporations.
>> Megacorp is doing evil things! they need to be shut down.
> lolberterian: it is a private company. they can do what they want
>> You do realize that literally all large corporations collude with and depend on the govt?
 
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IndyFront

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On really?
Some reading for you...



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The Crusaders won, bro. They took Jerusalem and kept it for long enough that that someone born in the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem could live out his or her life and die of old age there. They held that territory for an order of magnitude longer than America was willing to keep occupying Iraq. The modern state of Israel has yet to last anywhere as long.
Well yeah, if you're referring to the Kingdom of Jerusalem in specific but no, going overall land conquered the Muslims won. They won the Aragon Crusade. They won the Crusade of 1267. They won the Seventh Crusade. They won the Fifth Crusade. Sorry.
 

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The problem is that lolberterians thinks that this somehow absolves the corporations.
No. See, the thing is, we don't think this absolves the corporations, something you'd know if you at all listened to libertarians. We just think it's hilarious that you believe empowering the government depowers the corporations that control the government. But you don't, so you like inventing problems they have because you don't notice actual problems.

This is especially sad in a discussion about one of the classic libertarian problems: how do you get defense without the state? There was such an easy problem to point out, but you couldn't do that. You instead went with the old hack of 'Corporations bad, we need government to stop them' stupidity.

The argument the meme makes is a pathetic socialist argument: "corporations oppress, not government." It's so bad that I just handed you a better argument.

Well yeah, if you're referring to the Kingdom of Jerusalem in specific but no, going overall land conquered the Muslims won. They won the Aragon Crusade. They won the Crusade of 1267. They won the Seventh Crusade. They won the Fifth Crusade. Sorry.
Literally Spain. I'm not even Christian and I know this.
 

Scottty

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Literally Spain. I'm not even Christian and I know this.

Yup - almost all of the Iberian peninsular was occupied by Muslims at one stage. But now it's not. They got kicked out. Spain as a country exists only because of that.
For a quick encore the Spanish went off and conquered a load of New World land that mostly still speaks Spanish today.

Shall we get ATP started on the Ottoman Turks vs the Polish Winged Hussars?
 

mrttao

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No. See, the thing is, we don't think this absolves the corporations, something you'd know if you at all listened to libertarians. We just think it's hilarious that you believe empowering the government depowers the corporations that control the government. But you don't, so you like inventing problems they have because you don't notice actual problems.

This is especially sad in a discussion about one of the classic libertarian problems: how do you get defense without the state? There was such an easy problem to point out, but you couldn't do that. You instead went with the old hack of 'Corporations bad, we need government to stop them' stupidity.

It's a pathetic argument, so bad that I just handed you a better argument.


Literally Spain. I'm not even Christian and I know this.
I have spoke and argued with plenty of lolberterians.
You are not speaking for all lolberterians.

You are engaging in cognative dissonence. You claim that you are not absolving the corporations. Yet at the same time argue that all corporate evil comes from govt and only the govt and if only we dissolved the govt corporations will be good.

You personally suffer from a "defund the police" type mental disorder when it comes to anti trust legislation.
Thinking that disassembling the govt is the magic bullet that will fix corruption. while using the govt to breakup monopolies never works (please ignore all the times in history where it worked)

You fix corruption by arresting and depowering corrupt individuals. Which is a neverending war.
You don't fix corruption by saying "its a jungle now. please enjoy having no laws at all"

Also, you are making strawman here. You don't need to "give govt more power" in order to stop evil corporations.
Just use the existing anti trust laws that have been left unused for a while. enforce those to break up monopolies.
And while we are it, ban intellectual property.
 
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IndyFront

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*Looks at almost the entirety of South and Central America*
Huh, wonder why Spanish is so popular down there
The point is the Muslims invaded Spain in 711. They were pushed out. The Crusader Catholics invaded the Holy Land in the 1,000s AD, and were pushed out. Point: mine
 

mrttao

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Just use the existing anti trust laws that have been left unused for a while. enforce those to break up monopolies.
And while we are it, ban intellectual property.
Also to be absolutely clear, I don't want to ONLY cut down megacorps. I want to cut down the govt too.

we have before argued about this. where you insisted that even if I want to reduce the govt to 1000th the size it is currently at. if i add one single law and repeal 1000 you still consider me as a "big govt" "authoritarian" and "statist" who wants big govt.

I consider both megacorps AND the govt to be the left and right hand of the oligarchs. it is the oligarchs I want to depower the most. Which means cutting down BOTH the govt AND the corporations.
Both need deep trimming.
 

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Bu their company ye shall know them, guess tomboys are too smart to get into a commie party, and the soyboys there are angry . :ROFLMAO:
 

Scottty

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The point is the Muslims invaded Spain in 711. They were pushed out. The Crusader Catholics invaded the Holy Land in the 1,000s AD, and were pushed out. Point: mine

What was your point again?
In the long series of wars between Christendom and the Dar-al-Islam, sometimes the one side won, sometimes the other side did. Sometimes they made treaties rather.
One anti-Christian talking point one will encounter on the internet is the claim that Christianity was spread by military conquest. Which is a malicious lie, and conflates Christianity with Islam. But they sure don't think the Crusaders were useless, eh?

(Meanwhile, in the real world: The Angles, Saxons and other northern European tribes who invaded Britain after the Roman Empire fell were not Christians at the time. The Welsh and other Britons converted their pagan conquerors to Christianity.)
 

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