DarthOne
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And whose fault was that?Oh yeah, the ME during s time was doing pretty well.
The Islam crazies took over
And whose fault was that?Oh yeah, the ME during s time was doing pretty well.
The Islam crazies took over
And whose fault was that?
The French, Brits, and Soviets, to different degrees, though the Shia/Sunni split/conflict is also a factor.And whose fault was that?
Not the US.And whose fault was that?
They were allowed to take over. I remember most university students from Iran believe that Khomeini was a US plant that bamboozled D.C.Oh yeah, the ME during s time was doing pretty well.
The Islam crazies took over
NATO also favored Islamists over Nasserists, Baathist , Pan-Arabists or leftists.A lot of people actually.
But Id blame the people of the middle east the most they are home grown movements for the most part.
What?
Blame Whitey.
They are the only cause and only solution to all of the Worlds problems.
Has it occurred to you that sometimes it actually is ‘our’ fault? I mean, granted the Islamists did have support from their countrymen, but we also played a role.
I know that the ruler of Iran (if memory serves) got partially targeted by the US intelligence agencies on behave of the British Standard Oil. Because money and perfidious Albion.
I see no reason why NATO should ever support Nasserists, Baathists, Pan-Arabists or leftists, they are scum just as much as Islamists, and back then they had Soviet support to help implement their scummy nature.NATO also favored Islamists over Nasserists, Baathist , Pan-Arabists or leftists.
The only "sort of leftist" they supported was the Lebanese section of the Syrian Social National Party ....against kinda right wing Syria in 1956.
So the Tudeh Party fomented the Islamic Revolution of 1979 twenty six years later or Islamic Revolution was fomented in solidarity with the martyrdom of the Socialists in mind?
And no it clearly never occurred to me that it's the fault of you White People through all of history.
Edit:
Actually I'm conceding this argument now. I just realized there's like fifty or a hundred Videos on YouTube talking about how the 1953 Iranian Ouster of Mossadeq is all White Peoples fault.
If I can't be arsed to respond to a YouTube video by Critical Drinker on Star Wars shit, I sure ASF won't bother engaging with some video on a slightly more complicated topic.
And I can’t believe you’re still salty about that.
I think it's also important to note that while a Leftist/Pan-Arab/Baathist government eventually overthrew the previous governments of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia and Ethiopia in the same era of history as the rise of Mossadeq in Iran, the fact most of those countries ended up in varying levels of corruption, poverty, militarism and/or instability and internecine conflict for a half century or longer totally doesn't mean the same thing would've happened in Iran if Mossadeq was allowed to continue utilizing his emergency powers in perpetuity. Unlike all of those other countries, it would've proved to be the exception which would bring peace and prosperity to the Middle East from 1952 onward.
I thought the problem was I wasn't salty about what happened seventy years ago in Iran.
For a while; after we helped put people in power that were more... amenable to American interests in the region. Eventually though, our interest drifted elsewhere; and we failed to lift even a finger to help our allies in Iran when the revolution came for them.Not the US.
We supported the raining government as did the Brits.
Soviets kinda destroyed the ME first
I mean, I don't know why we didn't.For a while; after we helped put people in power that were more... amenable to American interests in the region. Eventually though, our interest drifted elsewhere; and we failed to lift even a finger to help our allies in Iran when the revolution came for them.
Carter is your answer.I mean, I don't know why we didn't.
Who was president at the time?
You have it backwards America gave more support to Iraq than Iran. You were on the same side as the Soviets on that one.The US did not want any Islamic revolutionaries.
We only supplied Iran against Iraq because it was against the Soviets.
I understand dislike of leftists, and socialists(communists) and maybe Baathists. I don't know too much about Nasserists, but why is pan Arabist bad? Is it just bad because you want a bunch of small squabling nations that you can divide, instead of dealing with one more powerful nation?I see no reason why NATO should ever support Nasserists, Baathists, Pan-Arabists or leftists, they are scum just as much as Islamists, and back then they had Soviet support to help implement their scummy nature.
Ah....Carter is your answer.
The sale of F14s was before the revolution wasn't it? That is what always gets me confused so makes sense.You have it backwards America gave more support to Iraq than Iran. You were on the same side as the Soviets on that one.
Iran–Iraq War - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I understand dislike of leftists, and socialists(communists) and maybe Baathists. I don't know too much about Nasserists, but why is pan Arabist bad? Is it just bad because you want a bunch of small squabling nations that you can divide, instead of dealing with one more powerful nation?