Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Agent23]

Guess it's just a symptom of the Vatnik-Cuck syndrome that you are shilling for the worst of the Euronomenclatura in form of euro politicians who want it to be even more leftist while also saying that.

Ah, yes, more ad hominem non-arguments.
I am waiting for you to call me a Russian bot/communist again, I am surprised you did not do it earlier.

When you can't attack the message, just attack the messenger, typical whiny neocuck Pole.

 

[Marduk]

Ah, yes, more ad hominem non-arguments.

This is what you asked for, this is what you got, if you want a more mature discussion then act like it, but who am i kidding, you obviously don't.

Well, your Polish Russia Derangement Syndrome

I am waiting for you to call me a Russian bot/communist again, I am surprised you did not do it earlier.

When you can't attack the message, just attack the messenger, typical whiny neocuck Pole.

Fuck off to be the wannabe tsar's serf if you like shilling for his interests so much, these days he won't say no to volunteer replacement serfs.

 

[Agent23]

This is what you asked for, this is what you got, if you want a more mature discussion then act like it, but who am i kidding, you obviously don't.

Translation "Ree, your source is leftwing, so I will rage and troll hissy fits and not actually look at the facts."

Fuck off to be the wannabe tsar's serf if you like shilling for his interests so much, these days he won't say no to volunteer replacement serfs.

Nice tantrum there, methinks you need to relax and unplug and unwind, perhaps you can go fantasize about the good old days when you were marching on Muskov under your "democratic" Magnate oligarchy like the, how did Churchill put it, "ravenous hyena" of Europe.

 

[Marduk]

Translation "Ree, your source is leftwing, so I will rage and troll hissy fits and not actually look at the facts."

That's not even the start of it, your source is not only a leftist nutjob, we both know you are shilling for this particular leftist nutjob for being stupid enough to repeat idiotic claims of Russian propaganda media on camera while being a leftist nutjob in Europe - which requires a certain degree of brave and bold idiocy, but then again, we're talking about the political option otherwise famous for their willingness to glue themselves to things and play in traffic "for the planet", so nothing unusual for them.

Nice tantrum there, methinks you need to relax and unplug and unwind, perhaps you can go fantasize about the good old days when you were marching on Muskov under your "democratic" Magnate oligarchy like the, how did Churchill put it, "ravenous hyena" of Europe.

Ravenous hyena, sounds like a fine animal to put on a magnate war banner.

 

[Blasterbot]

at this point watching the Slavs fling creative insults at each other is why I come to this thread.

 

[Agent23]

That's not even the start of it, your source is not only a leftist nutjob, we both know you are shilling for this particular leftist nutjob for being stupid enough to repeat idiotic claims of Russian propaganda media on camera while being a leftist nutjob in Europe - which requires a certain degree of brave and bold idiocy, but then again, we're talking about the political option otherwise famous for their willingness to glue themselves to things and play in traffic "for the planet", so nothing unusual for them.

If the Neocucks and the EU tried to organize a Color Revolution in Hell I'd find something good to shitpost about Satan.
Then again, you are basically the same.

Ravenous hyena, sounds like a fine animal to put on a magnate war banner.

Ah, yes, that itch to try and sneakily gobble up a huge chunk of central and eastern Europe and turn its population, particularly your "uncultured and primitive" Slavic cousins into serfs...

Meanwhile, to the east, a major Cossack insurrection in the Ukraine in 1648 undermined another Christian commonwealth, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (Rzeczpospolita). The Polish state had seen off many threats from Muscovites, Tatars and Turks on its eastern and southeastern borders, and faced down numerous previous revolts by Ruthenian Cossacks, increasingly alienated by the political and social contempt shown towards them by Polish aristocrats, who had established huge landed estates in Ruthenia (Ukraine). But nothing prepared the Polish state for the Cossack Rebellion (1648–57) led by Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky. With Tartar assistance, and then with the support of the Muscovites, the rebels eradicated the Polish nobility (szlachta) and their estates from Ruthenia, and dismantled the ecclesiastical authority of the Latin Rite Catholics there.

Source:
Christendom Destroyed

As we say here, the Wolf, in this case, the Hyena, shed its fur, but not its teeth.

Although Churchill did the animal a huge disservice to the animal, carrion eaters are nature's recycling machines, and the hyena, despite its disgusting appearance and mannerisms, like the love of rolling in rotting flesh, is quite strong and intelligent.

Something that can not be said about the PLC prior to the Flood or Poland after 1918, not merely greedy, but so ravenous as to choke itself after a few oversized bytes.

 

[AmosTrask]

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I'm guessing this one is Russian?

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A Polish-Lithuanian

at this point watching the Slavs fling creative insults at each other is why I come to this thread.

You've got to admit the only group who are as obsessed with infighting are the CCP and the Irish.

As to the war if Putin launches a nuke NATO will move in. Biden, Poland and the UK already issued a joint ultimatum for NATO on this matter three months ago.

 

[Agent23]

I'm guessing this one is Russian?

Bulgarian.

 

[AmosTrask]

Bulgarian.

I stand corrected. I apologize for calling you a Russian. We've got a Bulgar, a Pole, we just need an Romanian, two Czechoslovaks and a Yugoslavian and we've got a mini-Balkan.

 

[Marduk]

If the Neocucks and the EU tried to organize a Color Revolution in Hell I'd find something good to shitpost about Satan.
Then again, you are basically the same.

>He's the same!
>Will shill for watermelons just because they support Moscow.

Ah, yes, that itch to try and sneakily gobble up a huge chunk of central and eastern Europe and turn its population, particularly your "uncultured and primitive" Slavic cousins into serfs...

Lol, did you forget from your history lessons that Poland didn't have to do anything to get Russian serfs, because the poor sods were escaping Russia to be serfs in PLC because it sucked so much less to be a serf there?

Serfdom in Poland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As the situation of Polish serfs improved, it actually caused a problem in the Polish-Russian relations. Russian peasants were escaping from Russia to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth in significant enough numbers to become a major concern for the Russian Government. Increasingly in the 18th century, Russian armies raided territories of the Commonwealth, officially to recover the escapees, but in fact kidnapping many locals.[10] Describing the system as it existed by the end of the century, Wagner writes: "The situation of the peasants in Poland was better than in most other countries. In France and Germany, for example, the owners of landed estates had unlimited jurisdiction over them, including the power to punish by death. In Russia, their economic oppression was notorious, and one of the reasons Catherine II gave for the partition of Poland was the fact that thousands of peasants escaped from Russia to Poland to seek a better fate."[11] Piotr Kimla noted that the Russian government spread international propaganda, mainly in France, which falsely exaggerated serfdom conditions in Poland, while ignoring worse conditions in Russia, as one of the justification for the partitions.[12]

Polish government reforms aiming at improving the situation of the peasantry reached culmination with the Constitution of 3 May 1791, which declare

The superiority of Polish serfdom was confirmed by Russian serfs voting with their feet
Russia, Russia never changes. Even in the XXI century, still has go to such lengths as "joining" new serfs through kidnapping, because the "uncultures and primitive" serfs won't understand how good the Tsar is to them until the oprichniks beat it into them.

Source:
Christendom Destroyed

As we say here, the Wolf, in this case, the Hyena, shed its fur, but not its teeth.

Let's hope so.

 

[Agent23]

I stand corrected. I apologize for calling you a Russian. We've got a Bulgar, a Pole, we just need an Romanian, two Czechoslovaks and a Yugoslavian and we've got a mini-Balkan.

Poles do not have any land on the Balkans, lol, and you are missing a Turk, a Greek, a "Macedonian", an Albanian and all of the components of Yugoslavia, so Montenegran, Serbian, Croat, Bosnian...

Anyway, Poles see themselves as above other Slavs, they want to be Western, not Eastern, they do not use cyrilic(Bulgarian Invention) nor are Orthodox(Bulgaria was the first Slavic country to become fully autocephalous status aka full Church autonomy and later the Kievan Constantinople Viking mercenary whoremonger pilfered our lands and pilfered our alphabet and culture.)

 

[Agent23]

Lol, did you forget from your history lessons that Poland didn't have to do anything to get Russian serfs, because the poor sods were escaping Russia to be serfs in PLC because it sucked so much less to be a serf there?

Serfdom in Poland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well, apparently a lot of PLC serfs escaped and along with Muskovite serfs formed a little known group, perhaps you've heard of them:

Free space existed at the margins, in places which were at best only loosely affiliated to settled states. Bands of ethnic Poles and Muscovites known as Cossacks, some of them fleeing serfdom, made their way to the Ukraine, the ‘land beyond the rapids’ (Zaporizhzhia), an encampment towards the mouth of the river Dnieper. Nominally acknowledging Polish-Lithuanian overlordship, in reality they were a force unto themselves...

Same reference as above.

Oh, and for the record, none of Bulgaria's history textbooks reflect Poland in any way, aside from that one guy, Vladislav III Jagellon, who died at Varna, that is at most half a page related to the uprising of Knostantin and Fruzhin.

 

[Marduk]

Well, apparently a lot of PLC serfs escaped and along with Muskovite serfs formed a little known group, perhaps you've heard of them:


Same reference as above.

And look how well did that work out for them...

Oh, and for the record, none of Bulgaria's history textbooks reflect Poland in any way, aside from that one guy, Vladislav III Jagellon, who died at Varna, that is at most half a page related to the uprising of Knostantin and Fruzhin.

Then why do you make ridiculous accusations like this:

Ah, yes, that itch to try and sneakily gobble up a huge chunk of central and eastern Europe and turn its population, particularly your "uncultured and primitive" Slavic cousins into serfs...

Poles do not have any land on the Balkans, lol, and you are missing a Turk, a Greek, a "Macedonian", an Albanian and all of the components of Yugoslavia, so Montenegran, Serbian, Croat, Bosnian...

Anyway, Poles see themselves as above other Slavs, they want to be Western, not Eastern, they do not use cyrilic(Bulgarian Invention) nor are Orthodox(Bulgaria was the first Slavic country to become fully autocephalous status aka full Church autonomy and later the Kievan Constantinople Viking mercenary whoremonger pilfered our lands and pilfered our alphabet and culture.)

So instead of being butthurt about cultural appropriation like all the SJWs, your problem here is that Poland never even wanted to culturally appropriate Bulgaria's stolen cultural goods? Welp, makes sense in a way, the saying is that imitation is the highest form of praise, and you're not getting the praise from us, lol, very tsun-tsun.

 

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Joint press conference between President Biden & Ukrainian President Zolodmyr Zelensky at the East Room of the White House.

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[Agent23]

And look how well did that work out for them...

Then why do you make ridiculous accusations like this:


So instead of being butthurt about cultural appropriation like all the SJWs, your problem here is that Poland never even wanted to culturally appropriate Bulgaria's stolen cultural goods? Welp, makes sense in a way, the saying is that imitation is the highest form of praise, and you're not getting the praise from us, lol, very tsun-tsun.

Cyrillic is a Bulgarian invention, it works better for Slavic languages than Latin, also I see Catholicism as a 5th column.
And while some medieval literature was copy-pasted from Byzantium some of it was Bulgarian in origin.

One can argue that the Rus and their successor states were cultural descendants of the First Bulgarian Empire.

Meanwhile the Poles have been trying to be good, to use our dear American friends' terminology House Ni**as, for the west.

I think that a lot of you Poles want to be acknowledged as great and western by the west and that you see most of us eastern orthodox people as unkempt savages that need to be crusaded against.

Also, I am pretty sure that the Jagellon dynasty you hold in such high esteem was Livonian in origin aka a bunch of Crusaders that tried to colonize and conquer the east.

 

[King Arts]

I stand corrected. I apologize for calling you a Russian. We've got a Bulgar, a Pole, we just need an Romanian, two Czechoslovaks and a Yugoslavian and we've got a mini-Balkan.

Romanian here we aren’t Slavs we are Latin. Though we are Eastern Orthodox. It’s kinda funny Poles are our mirror opposite it necessarily in a bad way but we are Latins who unlike other Latins are not Catholic, and Polish are Slavs who unlike other Slavs are not Eastern Orthodox.

 

[Marduk]

Cyrillic is a Bulgarian invention, it works better for Slavic languages than Latin, also I see

Excuse me, Latin works fine for us, we don't need to have a super special alphabet to make it harder for the serfs to learn other languages so they don't get ideas.

Catholicism as a 5th column.

At least Vatican isn't run by FSB.

Meanwhile the Poles have been trying to be good, to use our dear American friends' terminology House Ni**as, for the west.

Lol. Jealous? Judging by the Russian serfs, probably.

I think that a lot of you Poles want to be acknowledged as great and western by the west

Now that's one hell of a Russian projection.

and that you see most of us eastern orthodox people as unkempt savages that need to be crusaded against.

It's not 13th century and we're not the Teutonic Order, we were on the other side of that one, again, what is it with Bulgarian education?
Imagine thinking Poles care about that weird FSB run church most Russians don't even go to anyway...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia#cite_note-ArenaAtlas2012-1

Russian Orthodoxy (41.1%)
We totally need to conquer them so and convert them to a better church to also not go to!

Also, I am pretty sure that the Jagellon dynasty you hold in such high esteem was Livonian in origin aka a bunch of Crusaders that tried to colonize and conquer the east.

Even if it was true, Muscovites with all their empire look completely ridiculous complaining that *other* people may be possibly trying to colonize and conquer anything.

Romanian here we aren’t Slavs we are Latin. Though we are Eastern Orthodox. It’s kinda funny Poles are our mirror opposite it necessarily in a bad way but we are Latins who unlike other Latins are not Catholic, and Polish are Slavs who unlike other Slavs are not Eastern Orthodox.

>unlike other Slavs
Lol, nice of you to forget Croatia, Czechia, Slovenia and Slovakia.

 

[Buba]

And this Group Huddle inside the Great Loving Slavic&Balkan Family came about how???

BTW - I understand the "cuck" insult, but "neocuck"?

 

[AmosTrask]

cyrilic(Bulgarian Invention)

I think you'll find many historians particularly Ukrainians who'll fight you on that. Galicia-Volhynia particularly the monks of Kyiv have that claim to fame.

@Marduk while that is true. Those same serfs eventually fled to Cossack and Golden Horde lands to escape serfdom altogether. Embracing the harsh nomadic lifestyle. While it was hard it was better than Russian slavery or the slightly less worse PLC serfdom.

 

[Bacle]

Head of Roscosmos almost got killed in Donetsk while celebrating his birthday.