Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Agent23]

It's not an allegation, he fell for a sting *twice*, got convicted, and went to prison for it.
Cope harder.
Makes him a great agent of influence style asset due to probable kompromat though.

If he care to... Politics.


The message is the same as always, as stupid as always, and not worthy of my continued attention, i'm done with it.

You fuck off to Ukraine through a Russian draft office cowardly vatnik Quisling scum hypocritically living in a NATO country where he has rights and shit. Go live in the shithole you love so much.

Translation from Marduk copeski/whataboutistki dialact of Polish language.
Ree.
Ree.
Reee.
But, but what abooout...
Ree.


You got jack shit, you know it, everyone knows it, even the other chickenhawk idiots you try to pull into struggle sessions know it.
Now get your cowardly, hypocritical ass to Ukraine and give us a report once you are there.Act like a real man for once in your life and actually stand up for something you claim to believe in, who knows, you might find a fellow rusophobic Ukrainina chick and get to procreate, although she will probably be after you for your European passport and not anything related to your anti-charming personality.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Twice charged Pedophile actually. Once in 2001 and once more in 2009!

Ex-UN inspector Scott Ritter sex sting trial begins

The trial of a former UN weapons inspector who is facing charges of unlawful sexual contact with a minor opens in the US state of Pennsylvania.

www.bbc.com

Verdict: Ex-UN weapons inspector Ritter guilty of all but one count in sex sting | PoconoRecord.com

Former U.N. chief weapons inspector Scott Ritter has been found guilty of unlawful contact with a minor and five of six other charges after a three-day trial in Monroe County Court on charges stemming from an online sex sting. He was acquitted on a criminal attempt charge.

web.archive.org

Scott Ritter should push HARD for the release of this so-called evidence... especially of him masturbating in front of a webcam to what he thought was a fifteen year old girl. His defenders know this is a setup!

As for Andrew Napolitano...

Judge Andrew Napolitano, a former Fox News regular who is speaking at the rally, confirmed that he stood up for Ritter in an attempt to keep him in the event. He told Libertarian Party leaders that Ritter "is intellectually honest, personally courageous, profoundly trustworthy, and utterly fearless," according to an email he shared with the Free Beacon.

"He may be the most valued and knowledgeable public person in America in the Peace Movement today," said Napolitano, who lost his job at Fox News over accusations that he "sexually harassed numerous young male employees" at the network.

Apparently that Rage Against the War Rally had a really big struggle session over inviting a pedophile to speak at the event or not.

How Disagreement Over a Pedophile Upended a Libertarian Anti-War Rally

An anti-war rally slated for later this month has been thrown into disarray by disagreements about a convicted child sex predator’s participation, with many speakers threatening to pull out of the Libertarian Party-led event if it booted the pedophile.

freebeacon.com

 

[Zachowon]

Oh, I have a pretty fucking good idea what this means, after hearing some of Zelensky's speeches recently. He's said that if the CCP join the Russian side, it means WW3.

The CCP will be directly supplying and aiding Russian forces in the invasion of Ukraine, and will not cooperate with many, if any, sanctions on Russia going forward, if this is truly official CCP shit.

Unless something very big happens to change things as they are, even when Ukraine is able to get back their 1991 borders, it'll be a Korean-DMZ type situation at best, and the CCP won't help hold Russia back anymore, except maybe from nukes (if they even have that level of pull with Putin anymore is an open question).

Man, if I'd known the future was probably gonna look a lot more like Red Alert/Fallout/Ghost in the Shell, I would have made a lot of choices differently.

Let's have it happen then.
Sanction tje CCP. Call Taiwan an independent country. Hell, call the ROC ghe legitimate government of China and the CCP illegitimate one

 

[Marduk]

Translation from Marduk copeski/whataboutistki dialact of Polish language.
Ree.
Ree.
Reee.
But, but what abooout...
Ree.

Translation from eurasianist agent:
Reee!!!
Reee!!!
Reee!!!
Shill pedo with FSB kompromat on him.
Reee!!!
Shill other FSB asset.
Shill useful idiot.
Reee!!!

You got jack shit, you know it, everyone knows it, even the other chickenhawk idiots you try to pull into struggle sessions know it.

Repeating it won't make it true, though eurasianist leadership since ages operates on different principles - it's true to them!

Now get your cowardly, hypocritical ass to Ukraine and give us a report once you are there.Act like a man in your life for once, who knows, you might find a fellow rusophobic Ukrainina chick and get to procreate, although she will probably be after you for your European passport and not anything related to your anti-charming personality.

I'm a Polish nationalist, not Ukrainian one, if you haven't noticed.
Now fuck off and live in the place you shill so much. Why won't you? Perhaps it sucks and would treat you like dirt? Then why do you shill for it?

 

[Agent23]

I'm a Polish nationalist, not Ukrainian one, if you haven't noticed.
Now fuck off and life in the place you shill so much. Why won't you? Perhaps it sucks and would treat you like dirt? Then why do you shill for it?

Ah, a Polish nationalist damaging the Polosh economic interests by damaging its major trade partners and source of money, advocating for a prolonged conflict that floods it with unfriendly people and overtaxes its ability to take care of them and advocates that it empty its arsenal for the sake of a country that erected statues of a person who genocided ethnic Poles.

You must be getting a great paycheck from Putin I guess.

Off to Donbass to support your allies and interfere with evil Putler/Russia's plans then, Kantorek.

 

[Bacle]

Let's have it happen then.
Sanction tje CCP. Call Taiwan an independent country. Hell, call the ROC ghe legitimate government of China and the CCP illegitimate one

I'd prefer to wait to see if this is the official line or not from the CCP/Xi, or if this idiot just put his foot in Xi's proverbial mouth.

The CCP openly supporting the Russian diplomatic desires to control Crimea and the Donbass, and splitting Kyiv in two, is the sort of thing that cannot be walked back if it ends up becoming the line Xi's puts out.

I mean I still think sanctions over the Wu Flu against the CCP are still in order, but layering on sanctions for supporting partition of Ukraine is a big next step; need to see what Xi says before pulling the trigger.

 

[Marduk]

Ah, a Polish nationalist damaging the Polosh economic interests by damaging its major trade partners and source of money, advocating for a prolonged conflict that floods it with unfriendly people and overtaxes its ability to take care of them and advocates that it empty its arsenal for the sake of a country that erected statues of a person who genocided ethnic Poles.

If you spin harder you're gonna turn into a helicopter.
Fuck off tactical shitlib, muh line must go up, fuck national security, amirite?
Few posts ago you were shilling how EU is trying to boss everyone around and is getting too strong, now you shill that EU is getting damaged by not cucking to Russia, make up your mind at least in your shilling.

You must be getting a great paycheck from Putin I guess.

Off to Donbass to support your allies and interfere with evil Putler/Russia's plans then, Kantorek.

Get fucked in Wagner (considering their recent recruits you may actually get fucked), vatnik.

 

[Agent23]

If you spin harder you're gonna turn into a helicopter.
Fuck off tactical shitlib, muh line must go up, amirite?
Few posts ago you were shilling how EU is trying to boss everyone around and is getting too strong, now you shill that EU is getting damaged by not cucking to Russia, make up your mind at least in your shilling.

Get fucked in Wagner, vatnik.

Marduk step 1: call somebody a libtard/leftist/commie/Putin bot/vatnik.

You advocate for support for a war, support that goes beyond the country for which you are an alleged patriot.

With such patriots Poland needs neither traitors nor enemies.

You started oinking that you are a so called Polish patriot only after being pressed repeatedly, before that it was Muh Ukraine, and Muh NAFO and Muh Freedom.

You are as inconsistent as you are stupid.

Now, get your ass to Ukraine and show the world that so called Polish 'patriots' are not pathetic man babies who can just ree on the internet and who resort to all sorts of whataboutism when pressed to back their bullshit rhetoric with their ass.

If you were a true patriot and a believer in the weakness of Russia and in the danger to Poland should Ukraine fall then you would have gone to Ukraine and tried to help it fend off the Russians.

You are a hypocrite, a coward, and a false patriot that can only drum his chest but hides behind his mom's skirts at the mere hint of potential warfare.

PATHETIC

HYPOCRITICAL

COWARD!

 

[Marduk]

Marduk step 1: call somebody a libtard/leftist/commie/Putin bot/vatnik.

Which turned out to be insufficient, you are a kind of turbovatnik, an euroasianist even.

You advocate for support for a war, support that goes beyond the country for which you are an alleged patriot.

It is in the interest of my nation, and a majority of it agrees with that assessment by a huge margin.

With such patriots Poland needs neither traitors nor enemies.

You started oinking that you are a so called Polish patriot only after being pressed repeatedly, before that it was Muh Ukraine, and Muh NAFO and Muh Freedom.

Was it? Aren't you confusing me with someone else? Too much vodka bad for your brain?

You are as inconsistent as you are stupid.

I remember calling out your inconsistency, guess you would rather not talk about that.

Now, get your ass to Ukraine and show the world that so called Polish 'patriots' are not pathetic man babies who can just ree on the internet and who resort to all sorts of whataboutism when pressed to back their bullshit rhetoric with their ass.

You are the pathetic man who shills on the internet from the safety and comfort of NATO in favor of a country that would send you to die for the imperial revanchist dreams of their elite, in addition to generally treating its citizens like crap, which you know, so you won't go there.
Or perhaps you are already serving that country, by different means?
What is Russia's equivalent of 50 cent army? 50 rouble army?
Your whole activity on this forum is reeing and whataboutism so don't pull this projection shit on me.

If you were a true patriot and a believer in the weakness of Russia and in the danger to Poland should Ukraine fall then you would have gone to Ukraine and tried to help it fend off the Russians.

If you weren't an internet slacktivist idiot with a Quisling bent you would live in the country you idolize and not in the part of the world you whine about.

You are a hypocrite, a coward, and a false patriot that can only drum his chest but hides behind his mom's skirts at the mere hint of potential warfare.

Wagner awaits, Agent Projection.

PATHETIC

HYPOCRITICAL

COWARD!

Thank you for your introduction, i will keep it in mind.

 

[Batrix2070]

Marduk step 1: call somebody a libtard/leftist/commie/Putin bot/vatnik.

You advocate for support for a war, support that goes beyond the country for which you are an alleged patriot.

With such patriots Poland needs neither traitors nor enemies.

You started oinking that you are a so called Polish patriot only after being pressed repeatedly, before that it was Muh Ukraine, and Muh NAFO and Muh Freedom.

You are as inconsistent as you are stupid.

Now, get your ass to Ukraine and show the world that so called Polish 'patriots' are not pathetic man babies who can just ree on the internet and who resort to all sorts of whataboutism when pressed to back their bullshit rhetoric with their ass.

If you were a true patriot and a believer in the weakness of Russia and in the danger to Poland should Ukraine fall then you would have gone to Ukraine and tried to help it fend off the Russians.

You are a hypocrite, a coward, and a false patriot that can only drum his chest but hides behind his mom's skirts at the mere hint of potential warfare.

PATHETIC

HYPOCRITICAL

COWARD!

Someone here has Meltdown.

 

[Agent23]

Which turned out to be insufficient, you are a kind of turbovatnik, an euroasianist even.

It is in the interest of my nation, and a majority of it agrees with that assessment by a huge margin.

Was it? Aren't you confusing me with someone else? Too much vodka bad for your brain?

I remember calling out your inconsistency, guess you would rather not talk about that.

You are the pathetic man who shills on the internet from the safety and comfort of NATO in favor of a country that would send you to die for the imperial revanchist dreams of their elite, in addition to generally treating its citizens like crap, which you know, so you won't go there.
Or perhaps you are already serving that country, by different means?
What is Russia's equivalent of 50 cent army? 50 rouble army?
Your whole activity on this forum is reeing and whataboutism so don't pull this projection shit on me.

If you weren't an internet slacktivist idiot with a Quisling bent you would live in the country you idolize and not in the part of the world you whine about.

Wagner awaits, Agent Projection.

Thank you for your introduction, i will keep it in mind.

And because a bunch of you Polish chickenhawks want to play proxy war in Ukraine to mess in, as Buba said, 'a fight between syphilis and gonorrhea' you think you have the right to drag in the whole of NATO/the USA/the EU in as your support and force us all to pay the price for your Russia Derangement Syndrome, all the while you align with and empower exactly the insitutitons (the EU) you claim to oppose?




Fuck off then, and keep your moralizing and your reeing about 'commie this' and freedom that' to yourself, you pathetic, cowardly Polish irredentist.

You do not believe in freedom, you have never believed in freedom, you just want to get someone dumb and strong enough to fight your battles for you and the other cowardly, weak little Polish chickenhawks.

Get your fucking ass off your couch and fight your own damned war with your own damned muscles and risk your own time, resources and life to go on your stupid little crusade, COLLECTIVIST PARASITE.

What is the greatest lie every created? What is the most vicious obscenity ever perpetrated on mankind? Slavery? The Holocaust? Dictatorship? No. It's the tool with which all that wickedness is built: altruism. Whenever anyone wants others to do their work, they call upon their altruism. Never mind your own needs, they say, think of the needs of... of whoever. The state. The poor. Of the army, of the king, of God! The list goes on and on. How many catastrophes were launched with the words "think of yourself"? It's the "king and country" crowd who light the torch of destruction. It is this great inversion, this ancient lie, which has chained humanity to an endless cycle of guilt and failure. My journey to Rapture was my second exodus. In 1919, I fled a country that had traded in despotism for insanity. The Marxist revolution simply traded one lie for another. Instead of one man, the tsar, owning the work of all the people, *all* the people owned the work of all of the people. So, I came to America: where a man could own his own work, where a man could benefit from the brilliance of his own mind, the strength of his own muscles, the *might* of his own will. I had thought I had left the parasites of Moscow behind me. I had thought I had left the Marxist altruists to their collective farms and their five-year plans. But as the German fools threw themselves on Hitler's sword "for the good of the Reich", the Americans drank deeper and deeper of the Bolshevik poison, spoon-fed to them by Roosevelt and his New Dealists. And so, I asked myself: in what country was there a place for men like me - men who refused to say "yes" to the parasites and the doubters, men who believed that work was sacred and property rights inviolate. And then one day, the happy answer came to me, my friends: there was *no* country for people like me! And *that* was the moment I decided... to build one.

 

[Agent23]

Someone here has Meltdown.

Oh, you noticed, the signs are usually that Marduk gets more inconsistent than usual, starts misspelling and disregards proper capitalization, spoiler warning.

 

[Batrix2070]

And because a bunch of you Polish chickenhawks want to play proxy war in Ukraine to mess in, as Buba said, 'a fight between syphilis and gonorrhea' you think you have the right to drag in the whole of NATO/the USA/the EU in as your support and force us all to pay the price for your Russia Derangement Syndrome, all the while you align with and empower exactly the insitutitons (the EU) you claim to oppose?




Fuck off then, and keep your moralizing and your reeing about 'commie this' and freedom that' to yourself, you pathetic, cowardly Polish irredentist.

You do not believe in freedom, you have never believed in freedom, you just want to get someone dumb and strong enough to fight your battles for you and the other cowardly, weak little Polish chickenhawks.

Get your fucking ass off your couch and fight your own damned war with your own damned muscles and risk your own time, resources and life to go on your stupid little crusade, COLLECTIVIST PARASITE.

Aha, that means we are entering the stage, Poland is to blame for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Poland is to blame for the fact that the conflict broke out/guilty that it is still in place because thanks to it, Ukraine didn't surrender right away so the rest of Europe could business as usual?

Someone has read too much Russian propaganda, I wish I lived in Poland from this fairy tale. A Poland that threatens Russia, a Poland that manipulates everyone and forces them to support Ukraine in some way so as not to bear the costs themselves.

This Poland must be a very powerful and influential country, do you seriously want to threaten for THIS Poland? Since it is able to make even the Mighty USA dance as she plays, how is Bulgaria supposed to defend itself?

Oh, you noticed, the signs are usually that Marduk gets more inconsistent than usual, starts misspelling and disregards proper capitalization, spoiler warning.

I was referring to you.

 

[King Arts]

Marduk step 1: call somebody a libtard/leftist/commie/Putin bot/vatnik.

You advocate for support for a war, support that goes beyond the country for which you are an alleged patriot.

With such patriots Poland needs neither traitors nor enemies.

You started oinking that you are a so called Polish patriot only after being pressed repeatedly, before that it was Muh Ukraine, and Muh NAFO and Muh Freedom.

You are as inconsistent as you are stupid.

Now, get your ass to Ukraine and show the world that so called Polish 'patriots' are not pathetic man babies who can just ree on the internet and who resort to all sorts of whataboutism when pressed to back their bullshit rhetoric with their ass.

If you were a true patriot and a believer in the weakness of Russia and in the danger to Poland should Ukraine fall then you would have gone to Ukraine and tried to help it fend off the Russians.

You are a hypocrite, a coward, and a false patriot that can only drum his chest but hides behind his mom's skirts at the mere hint of potential warfare.

PATHETIC

HYPOCRITICAL

COWARD!

Why do you keep shilling for Russia? You keep saying "If you care about Poland and think Russia is a threat you should go fight for Ukraine!"
Marduk does not support Ukraine(hopefully) he supports Poland. It is in Poland's interest for Ukraine and Russia to kill each other off. Yes Ukraine killed Poles in the past, he does not have to like them. But Russia also killed Poles in the past, he supports giving resources to Ukraine he did not say Polish people should fightin Ukraine. Poland and Eastern Europe should give resources to Ukraine to weaken Russia then when Russia comes to us(if they take Ukraine) then we can fight them in our own homelands with defenses prepared.

 

[Marduk]

And because a bunch of you Polish chickenhawks want to play proxy war in Ukraine to mess in, as Buba said, 'a fight between syphilis and gonorrhea' you think you have the right to drag in the whole of NATO/the USA/the EU in as your support and force us all to pay the price for your Russia Derangement Syndrome, all the while you align with and empower exactly the insitutitons (the EU) you claim to oppose?

>the right to drag whole NATO, USA and EU
>align with the EU
Which one is it then? Are we aligning with "the institutions", or are we violating everyone's rights by making them align with us? How am i supposed to take your "multiple contradictory position drifting!" argument seriously, you bloody clown?

Fuck off then, and keep your moralizing and your reeing about 'commie this' and freedom that' to yourself, you pathetic, cowardly Polish irredentist.

Lol you use terms such as "you think you have the right" but accuse me of being the reeeing moralizer, do you need a mirror perhaps?

You do not believe in freedom, you have never believed in freedom, you just want to get someone dumb and strong enough to fight your battles for you and the other cowardly, weak little Polish chickenhawks.

Freedom from Russia is a freedom...

Get your fucking ass off your couch and fight your own damned war with your own damned muscles and risk your own time, resources and life to go on your stupid little crusade, COLLECTIVIST PARASITE.

And who do you think you are to tell me that, individual Quisling? Go live in the country you simp for, perhaps they have propaganda jobs, you already have the correct attitude and arguments.

 

[Agent23]

Aha, that means we are entering the stage, Poland is to blame for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Poland is to blame for the fact that the conflict broke out/guilty that it is still in place because thanks to it, Ukraine didn't surrender right away so the rest of Europe could business as usual?

Someone has read too much Russian propaganda, I wish I lived in Poland from this fairy tale. A Poland that threatens Russia, a Poland that manipulates everyone and forces them to support Ukraine in some way so as not to bear the costs themselves.

This Poland must be a very powerful and influential country, do you seriously want to threaten for THIS Poland? Since it is able to make even the Mighty USA dance as she plays America, how is Bulgaria supposed to defend itself?

You had your share in the set-up and you are a major supporter of Ukraine, you and your lackeys and freinds in the baltic have also been instrumental in the anti-Russia media campaign, going so far as to get Sebastian Kurtz kicked out by pulling one of his coalition partners' his words out of context and then using the media to ree up a shitstorm.
If you are doing that to your so called allies then you deserve no allies because that makes you self-serving and backstabbing.

If you wish to skewer yourself upon Muskov's Orc yatagan 'for the Good and Glory of the Future Restored Glorious PLC' then that is your choice and I will not stop you.
No article 5 though.
And none of that 'we defending freedom' or 'muh Yurup/Values' rhetoric, I despise it, and frankly, I have trained myself to go into a fit of rage whenever somebody tries to pull the 'muh values' or 'think of the chillins' virtue signalling/shaming/impromptu collectivist struggle sessions arguments with me as their target.

What would we get out of it?

Will you give us free gas?

You have none.

Fertilizer?

Nope.

Uranium for our nuclear power plants?

You have none.

Why should I aid you and the Sliva Usraini if neither I nor my country are getting anything out of it except overpriced gas and massive inflation?
If the Ukrainians will likely depress wages for my countrymen and suck out lots of the EU funds we are currently gulping up?

I was referring to you.

I know, sadly sarcasm rarely crosses cultural boundaries it seems.

 

[Marduk]

Why do you keep shilling for Russia? You keep saying "If you care about Poland and think Russia is a threat you should go fight for Ukraine!"
Marduk does not support Ukraine(hopefully) he supports Poland. It is in Poland's interest for Ukraine and Russia to kill each other off. Yes Ukraine killed Poles in the past, he does not have to like them. But Russia also killed Poles in the past, he supports giving resources to Ukraine he did not say Polish people should fightin Ukraine. Poland and Eastern Europe should give resources to Ukraine to weaken Russia then when Russia comes to us(if they take Ukraine) then we can fight them in our own homelands with defenses prepared.

Germany has done far worse, yet they are a EU and NATO ally now. Austro-Hungary and Sweden did some stuff too. And then there is all the shit Russia did, our spats with Ukrainians pale in the face of that. But alliances shift... Meanwhile it's Russia who is still hostile, manipulative, and acting like a XIXth century empire. If its teeth get broken by Ukrainian hands wielding our weapons, that's a cheap victory, which sure beats expensive victories.

 

[Agent23]

>the right to drag whole NATO, USA and EU
>align with the EU
Which one is it then? Are we aligning with "the institutions", or are we violating everyone's rights by making them align with us? How am i supposed to take your "multiple contradictory position drifting!" argument seriously, you bloody clown?


Lol you use terms such as "you think you have the right" but accuse me of being the reeeing moralizer, do you need a mirror perhaps?

Freedom from Russia is a freedom...

And who do you think you are to tell me that, individual Quisling? Go live in the country you simp for, perhaps they have propaganda jobs, you already have the correct attitude and arguments.

I am a BULGARIAN patriot and a libertarian.

How am I a quisling for a country I am not born in, have never visited, have no citizenship in or family ties to?

 

[Marduk]

I am a BULGARIAN patriot and a libertarian.

How am I a quisling for a country I am not born in, have never visited, have no citizenship in or family ties to?

Because you shill for its interests in a war, and against your country's alliances and interests, you kek. I neither know nor care why, but you sure are doing a lot of shilling for it here alone, that i can see.
You are shilling for Russia's interest in hope Russia will reward your country with collective bribes if it shills hard enough, if your free gibs post is to be taken seriously.
Is that Bulgarian patriotism, appropriation of Gypsy culture, or continuation of the jannisary tradition to a different master?
If being Russia's client state is the ideal Bulgarian patriots aspire to, however pathetic that is, fine, leave NATO and EU then, but how well would that serve Bulgaria's interests, well, pretty sure you couldn't get a majority for that.

 

[Megadeath]

I am a BULGARIAN patriot and a libertarian.

How am I a quisling for a country I am not born in, have never visited, have no citizenship in or family ties to?

... Someone doesn't understand what a quisling is or how it works. It literally originated with Viktor Quisling, a Norwegian, helping the Nazis. The entire point of the term is that you're bending over for a foreign government.

Now, hands up everyone who is surprised that @Agent23 is an idiot.