Only with machines, without machines it takes them a very long time
Russian hackers just shutdown the websites of a bunch of German airports.
Remember when Russia massed troops in Belarus last year under the cover of a "Joint Military Training Exercise" just before their invasion? They were doing it again. Except the Ukrainians just responded a few hours ago by detonating demolition charges in standing bridges. Beforehand they'd contented themselves with simply destroying the center span and mining both ends. They just took out all the pillars and foundations and used artillery to damage the Belarusian ends.
The Russians are on Meth and Krokodil if they expected that trick to work twice! I'd have wished to see Putin's face when the news reached Moscow. Hahahaha!
*Rolls eyes*Bro, nobody is bridging any river in a short period of time without machines. Even the smallest watercourse that can be called a river, if you're making a very crude bridge using hand-tools and wood from trees that are right there, it's going to take hours to make that bridge.
Something large enough for military vehicles to cross? You're not doing that without heavy specialized machinery, period.
Please try to be a little clearer in your wording.Second, without machines, that is, without folding bridges. Not without engineering vehicles. Or not without a pontoon park.
The thought of "(some) loss of institutional knowledge and/or capability" due to Afganistan and Iraq did cross my mind.It also wouldn't exactly be surprising if after twenty years in the sandbox, the US military isn't as good at handling rivers as they could be.
How long ago was this? I have to ask.*Rolls eyes*
My friend, I no brother to you is first of all.
Second, without machines, that is, without folding bridges. Not without engineering vehicles. Or not without a pontoon park.
Another thing is that nowhere did I mean that it would take a few minutes. I meant that Polish sappers take a few hours to build such a bridge with ease. While the Americans during these maneuvers seemed incapable of doing it as quickly and efficiently as we did.
Which strongly surprised this soldier, because this was something that had been trained and known in the Polish Army for a very long time.
Please try to be a little clearer in your wording.
It also wouldn't exactly be surprising if after twenty years in the sandbox, the US military isn't as good at handling rivers as they could be.
I have no specialized knowledge on relative readiness rates on that compared to the Poles (or most anyone else), so I'll not try to argue about it.
No, we have seen it as a deficiency but not due to COIN. Do to places to train it.The thought of "(some) loss of institutional knowledge and/or capability" due to Afganistan and Iraq did cross my mind.
Other lose thoughts:
- in Europe US Army expects local NATO forces to have bridge laying capability and thus does not have it?
- bridging units are NG and/or stationed in the USA? *(this links with the above, I'd guess)
I read about it just after Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the soldier was referring to the 2021 maneuvers, when they practiced forcing the Narev River. He was surprised at the lack of adequate skills among Americans.How long ago was this? I have to ask.
Do you know anything about the American unit?I read about it just after Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the soldier was referring to the 2021 maneuvers, when they practiced forcing the Narev River. He was surprised at the lack of adequate skills among Americans.
Nope, the only information I've been able to find so far is that with the 16th Mechanized Division as part of Tumak-21, subdivisions from America, the UK and Norway took part in the training.Do you know anything about the American unit?
Brigade Combat team.Nope, the only information I've been able to find so far is that with the 16th Mechanized Division as part of Tumak-21, subdivisions from America, the UK and Norway took part in the training.
And US for the training exercise.Was the bridging exercise in Czarnowo or Kikoły? If yes - then the Polish troops had been bridging the Narew there for the last 40 or 50 years ...
Camp Lejeune had water contamination issues from the late-50s to the late-80s. When watching TV I regularly get ads from lawyers saying "if you have one of these health problems and were stationed at Camp Lejeune, please call us."Maybe they were a unit from Fort Polk. sorry. I've only ever heard of that base and Le June as nightmare postings from the American servicemen here.
I've got a lot of friends that were stationed at Polk, and they loved it.Maybe they were a unit from Fort Polk. sorry. I've only ever heard of that base and Le June as nightmare postings from the American servicemen here.