SCOTUS Getting Shade Over Roe v Wade

[Vyor]

What I mean is that a lot of tradcons appear out of the woodwork.
As well as a ton of formerly dormant social media accounts.
Smells like double agants.

You're acting like a double agent more than they are.

 

[Agent23]

You're acting like a double agent more than they are.

I am part of this little thing called the non-religious right.
Also, Orthodox, which kinda-sorta makes me a Caesaropapist not a Paopcaesarist like the West.

 

[Vyor]

Paopcaesarist

That isn't a word.

 

[Agent23]

That isn't a word.

It is the reverse of carsaropapist, take a look at the link.

 

[Vyor]

It is the reverse of carsaropapist, take a look at the link.

...
A hierocratic would be the correct word there? And no, most conservatives believe that the government and church should be separate polities.

 

[Agent23]

...
A hierocratic would be the correct word there? And no, most conservatives believe that the government and church should be separate polities.

Um, the idea of Caesaropopism is that the government has primacy in affairs above the church.
Popecaesarism is the opposite, with the church bossing around secular institutions.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Um, the idea of Caesaropopism is that the government has primacy in affairs above the church.

So...America.

 

[Agent23]

So...America.

Tell that to the Evangelicals.

 

[Vyor]

Um, the idea of Caesaropopism is that the government has primacy in affairs above the church.
Popecaesarism is the opposite, with the church bossing around secular institutions.

You mean... this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierocracy_(medieval)

 

[LordsFire]

No, it is 100% dependent on the host organism and mindless.

It is not autonomous life, let alone autonomous intelligent life.

The definition you used said 'capable of Darwinian evolution.'

Darwinian evolution requires reproduction.

Humans reproduce through fetuses.

Thus, this is part of the life-cycle, and must be alive in order to count.


Your own given definition defeats your own argument.

(This post brought to you five days late by a road trip and seeing grandma before she's put on hospice care.)

 

[strunkenwhite]

So...America.

From skimming the article, if activities are pushed from "this is considered church business" to "this is considered state business", that alone isn't caesaropapism. It's when the state tells the church how to do what is still considered to be church business. (e.g. "You must allow women to become priests" or an executive order published as a papal bull.) A takeover of the church by the state. Whereas a takeover of the state by the church would be theocracy in the popular vernacular, or hierocracy according to Weber, or papocaesarism according to Agent23.

 

[Agent23]

From skimming the article, if activities are pushed from "this is considered church business" to "this is considered state business", that alone isn't caesaropapism. It's when the state tells the church how to do what is still considered to be church business. (e.g. "You must allow women to become priests" or an executive order published as a papal bull.) A takeover of the church by the state. Whereas a takeover of the state by the church would be theocracy in the popular vernacular, or hierocracy according to Weber, or papocaesarism according to Agent23.

The church can as it pleases as long as it does not interfere in secular affairs.
If Yahweh is so powerful then he and his servants do not need my tax money, or tax exemptions.

The definition you used said 'capable of Darwinian evolution.'

Darwinian evolution requires reproduction.

Humans reproduce through fetuses.

Thus, this is part of the life-cycle, and must be alive in order to count.


Your own given definition defeats your own argument.

(This post brought to you five days late by a road trip and seeing grandma before she's put on hospice care.)

And by your own logic only teen and above should be considered alive because otherwise they can not reproduce.

Which part of autonomous, unaided survival out of the womb don't you understand?

 

[Rocinante]

Who in here said they wouldn't get violent? Was it @Floridaman ?

Pro-Abortion Domestic Terrorists Firebomb Wisconsin Pro-Life Non-Profit

pjmedia.com

 

[Agent23]

Who in here said they wouldn't get violent? Was it @Floridaman ?

Pro-Abortion Domestic Terrorists Firebomb Wisconsin Pro-Life Non-Profit

pjmedia.com

I think what he said is that if riots occured again because of this they'd be stomped out in red areas.

 

[Floridaman]

I think what he said is that if riots occured again because of this they'd be stomped out in red areas.

Correct, and in red areas I don’t expect violence, Madison isn’t red and wisconsin is purple.

 

[LordsFire]

The church can as it pleases as long as it does not interfere in secular affairs.
If Yahweh is so powerful then he and his servants do not need my tax money, or tax exemptions.

And by your own logic only teen and above should be considered alive because otherwise they can not reproduce.

Which part of autonomous, unaided survival out of the womb don't you understand?

So, you're fine with 'aborting' children up to the age of at least three or four years old?

Also, you've made it rather obvious that you have little to no functional ability to understand the logic of others. You certainly don't understand mine.

 

[Agent23]

So, you're fine with 'aborting' children up to the age of at least three or four years old?

Also, you've made it rather obvious that you have little to no functional ability to understand the logic of others. You certainly don't understand mine.

No, I'd we need to stick to the most strict definition of life, as you desire, pre-teens are not alive.

Seriously, do I need to post a bait image or put (sarcasm) under my every post?

 

[S'task]

To help those suspect of why this decision could be so important:

Overturning Roe Will Be An Inflection Point For The Nation

If the Supreme Court does not overturn Roe, its legitimacy is finished, and so is the nation the Founders created. The opposite is also true.

thefederalist.com

We’re so used to losing, who knows what the biggest win in generations could do to energize the American majority that remains committed to families and the rule of the real Constitution, not the murderous “living” one. But I do know that nothing is so energizing and refreshing as a baby. There’s nothing more unifying, more animating, and more lively. A baby is a life, and a baby makes a life. This is true both for us as individuals and for us as a collective.

Children are a reason to get up in the morning, to make a morning at all. Discharging our responsibilities to children is the way to make it “Morning in America” again, both in our homes and in our civic life. Caring for them is the best way forward. It is the only way.

Without children, a civilization dies, both spiritually and literally. We are on the cusp of continuing to lose our babies, but there’s a chance we can get them back. And we need to, for our nation’s life is inextricable from theirs.

As every good parent learns, having a child is the way to become human again. Being human means becoming the kind of person who will sacrifice himself to benefit another. A society without enough of such persons is soon not a society at all. The Supreme Court’s decision, therefore, can either mean life or death not only for the unborn, but also for their nation. We must all hope, pray, and prepare.

 

[Typhonis]

I thought they were just going to kick it back down to State level where it belongs?

 

[Bear Ribs]

I thought they were just going to kick it back down to State level where it belongs?

According to various sites like SB, abortion has a 70% approval rating or more among the general population, and they must never, ever put it up to a vote where those numbers would allow them casual curbstomp of their political opponents.