Also, finally here's the multiple 2.5 kilometer shots taken by Algol the Iron Warrior. One handed to boot.
Certainly an impressive shot, but wasn't that an Iron Warrior? A Chaos Marine? Is it at all possible that his skill at that range with a generic bolter is a result of a chaos boon?
Regardless, I just watched Angels of Death and Iron Within. Both very good (and very interesting). There are at least a few good calculations we can derive from weapon performances from both of those. Hammer and Bolter might be next. I saw Astartes--I can clearly see the fanboy material there, but despite being placed on Warhammer TV, the performance there was far faster and more capable than what we see in the other sources. Clearly, someone who buys into the high-end fluff stuff.
What we see with the Blood Angels (and even the Iron Warriors) suggests a closer presentation to what I've seen in the trailers, though in Angels of Death, we see a great deal more enemies thrown at the Blood Angels than we generally see with other displays, but that makes sense, given that they were fighting a Tyranid Cult, so most of the enemies were limited to Imperial Guards weaponry.
I'll need more time to do a detailed analysis.
Speaking of rigging the game, where were the personal forcefields, photon grenade mortars and phasers set to wide beam at AR-558 and
Wow, you can
almost hear the bitterness through the screen. Christ, imagine being so butthurt over the idea that Space Marines could possibly lose to Starfleet. š
In any case, at that point during the war, the Federation and the Dominion were both stretched in terms of what they could do. Neither side had secured the sector. It was so bad that the company that should have been rotated out after three months was there for five months. They went from 150 soldiers to 43 in those five months, suffering repeated Jem'Hadar attacks. We aren't told what sort of resupplies that Sisko brought, but I expect if it had been weapons and munitions, he might have mentioned using those with the Dominion subspace mines they repurposed. That leads me to expect that they didn't bring any.
on the Rocks and Shoals planet where the Jem'Hadr apparently just advanced over open ground and somehow managed to kill a Starfleet dude despite re-enacting a Warhammer video game cutscene poorly?
Do you mean the one where Sisko and some of his crew crash-land on a planet, with both sides having little to no resources? You know, the whole drama that drove the story?
And where were the photon grenade bombardments in that Federation Colony that Jake Sisko visited? The Klingon Mortar Bombardment shown onscreen was less impressive then the Borg Sphere orbital bombardment in First Contact.
Yeah, what we saw wasn't all that impressive. The general suggestion is that what we saw might have been some kind of anti-personnel munition. That's not entirely unreasonable, since Bashir and Jake were actually within jogging distance of a fight between the Klingons and Starfleet. As to your complaint of the artillery bombardment being lame, well we have some additional dialogue you seem to have overlooked.
KIRBY: He's in IC for the night. He's got plasma burns on his arm and shoulder. I don't know how he managed, but he carried the generator back here by himself. We went looking for you right after the shelling stopped. There was hardly anything left of the runabout. The whole place was nothing but bomb craters and smoke. We had pretty much given up hope.
By the way, we aren't actually told that these are mortar weapons. It refers to the attack in the form of "shelling".
In any case, there were clearly more powerful bombs used, since the runabout was blown to bits and according to Kirby, the whole place was "nothing but bomb craters and smoke", which doesn't describe the sort of attack that Bashir and Jake suffered. The most likely probability, given the facts at hand, was that Bashir and Jake were caught in the crossfire of an engagement between Starfleet and the Klingons. The two were separated, Bashir managed to get to the Runabout and return with a portable generator. Shortly after, the runabout was destroyed by the shelling. If my memory serves, the shelling had stopped shortly after Jake met the dying Federation soldier, so the shelling was probably only a few minutes.
Jake Sisko was within feet of those mortar impacts IIRC. I haven't watched the episode in a while because that episode is trash but I'm sure some nerd can remind us. Plus I mean, personal forcefield, never leave the bunker without one.
How is that episode trash? It discusses courage and cowardice in a fairly intelligent way.
And why not bring the Photon Grenade Mortar along during Star Trek Insurrection?
What are they gonna do, nuke a bunch of civilians? I'm not sure why you imagine using a tactical nuke at close range to fight off raiding parties sent to abduct people is the best response.
Instead they used that Isomagnetic Disruptor or whatever the bazooka thing is called that showed up again in Lower Decks. Only time we saw that shoulder fired weapon used, it pooped out an explosion comparable to a cinematic hand grenade.
Okay, your point being? I have no idea what the point of the Isomagnetic Disintegrator is. It's not any more powerful than a phaser, which we saw in that same movie blow through several cubic meters of rock. Its name doesn't really lend any sort of description that would be useful unless we assume it disintegrates things (with magnets?). The only thing I can assume is that it might have a greater range than a phaser, but that's about it.
